Australia invaded East Timor in World War II.
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Australia invaded East Timor in World War II.
Australia was already at war with Turkey. Iraq is a better example.
Turkey ( Ottoman Empire ) was totally screwed by that war.
They had lost territory in recent wars against Italy and the Balkan states.
They were economically stuffed, and had no weapons or industry with the big war obviously brewing.
They needed an Ally, they didn't want to be a belligerent force. With not many suitors Germany became that ally.
Serbia , Allied to Russia started the war by killing an Austrian Prince.
But German did then start invading stuff.
Which got the British involved.
Who then got the Australians to help invade Turkey, who had done a bit of fighting against Russia , but didn't really want to be in the war.
Stupid sort of war it was.
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Looks like they’re being campaigners again.
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98 years late but you got there in the end.
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Correct. The irony is that the war resulted in the fall of the Ottoman empire (an Islamic theocratic imperial power) into a reformed secular somewhat liberal state under Atatürk. Unfortunately the current administration is undoing decades of progress.
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I know America is a basket case right now but our military alliance with them must be preserved. That’s become clearer than ever now. Our defence is inept, if USA pulled out of the western pacific there’d be nothing stopping the CCP sending their warships up and down our eastern coast doing “military exercises” claiming these waters as their own, bullying us into submission with continued sanctions and resorting to military action if needed. Maintaining the alliance keeps us within the nuclear stalemate umbrella.
The alternative is rolling over and letting China have their way with us which we’ve already started to do in so many ways (Darwin port, Antarctica etc) worst case our sovereignty would eventually become worthless and we’ll be a servant-state to China.
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Yes. Allies are vital. Not just the USA, but we need to get more engaged with Japan and the EU/NATO too. Plus get more involved in trade and development in Indonesia and the Philippines. Strategic priority number one for Aus must involve us being a major energy exporter, preferably renewable energy in one form or another, in addition to our LNG sector. If we are a vital part of some other countries energy mix then they'll be more inclined to help us.
We also need to invest in more attack aircraft. Something that can carry long range antiship missiles. We need to build them here. We don't have the resources or skills to design one from scratch, but we can set up a manufacturing line. Several dozen or even in the hundreds of them, should be capable of operating from remote locations including convenient strips of sealed road.
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There's private investment and there's invading Australia's territorial waters with a show of force.
Whilst we don't have the armed forces the size of the US, China and Russia, we also aren't a pushover and have one of the most technically advanced DF's for our size in the world. We have a very advanced Navy and Air force especially.
We still remain one of the wealthiest countries per capita on the planet and if we actually mobilized for genuine conflict and genuine defense, we'd have an additional 10 x Arleigh Burke's delivered to Sydney harbor in a month if we wanted them.
We also just signed a defense pact with one of China's biggest regional rivals and the second largest army (3rd highest funded defense force) in the world no more than a week ago.
The Commonwealth isn't going anywhere (Which includes iron clad defence pacts with UK, Canada, Malaysia, Singapore and NZ) between them the USA and India, any genuine show of force against Australia would be catastrophic for China.
In India we also have a population and economy that could potentially replace the Chinese trade reliance we current have, over the next 25 years.
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Whilst Indonesia is an arms length 'ally' as a neighbor, the relationship has always been frosty and they are one of China's military allies.
It's pretty clear India is in the governments plans as their preferred regional strategic partner moving forward for the next decade(s).
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Indonesia is largely just the Javanese Empire. They have great difficulty in keeping all the islands together over a vast distance. There are quite a few different ethnic and language groups that have just as little to do with Javanese culture ans they did with the Dutch before them. They fear Australia because they know we could pry apart a few bits of their eastern archipelago.
Overall, I think they are just as wary of China as everyone else. They seem to be more friendly with the US.
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It will be interesting to see how the Indian relationship goes and same to Indonesia
1) India's main military ally is Russia. So how does an India/ Australia relationship work in the time of need/ war if Australia is allied with the US and India with Russia.
Given Russia and India are both being invaded by China, as we speak I see these guys siding with us just as they did with WW1 and WW2. India has chosed to go head to head with China and have minor battles with around 100 dead on the Indian side each year. Russia has operated very differently to the invasion by using corruption and the FSP. Essentially the Chinese are lured in providing bribes are paid, only to go missing in massive numbers and work place accidents.
Further Australia needs to sell its minerals to someone, in the case China turns off our exports. As such we are very supportive of giving India nuclear power which will be required to build up their steel and manufacturing industries. These are the same industries required to sustain warfare.
2) Indonesia is on a knife's edge politically and could sink into a brutal dictatorship. I'm fairly sure the US won't allow that to happen (refer the Soekarno Soeharto transition of power) but it does highlight nothing can be taken for granted.
It should be noted Australia is very active in Indo and the Philippines establishing currency, tax regimes, establishing mining acts and other operational laws, actively fighting ISIS and Abu Sayyaf (a failed Australian operation - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...islamist-militants-kill-18-soldiers-in-ambush), military training and policing.
Hopefully this investment works but at least we are actively trying.
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Indonesia becomes strategically important for India and Australia as it buffers China from India and access to the Indian Ocean, energy from the middle east and China's vast mineral reserves in Africa.
Further, India need to respond to the China threat to the North (the Chinese border), the East (Bangladesh and Myanmar - China allies) and West (Pakistan and Iran - China allies), the South (Sri Lanka - China ally and largest China military base being constructed), the North (One belt one road) and the South (The string of Pearls).
The best response would be and strong naval presence in Indonesia blocking China's access to the Indian Ocean, strengthening the relationship with Russia (note although military allies Russians being conservative "old school" see Indians as grubby coloured peasants - putting in doubt whether the Russian military would fight without further investment in the relationship), investing in the One Belt One Road to gain influence over the Stans and link Russia and India, develop treaties with Taiwan, Russia, Japan, Korea, Philippines, Vietnam and Indo to box China in.
As a result of the geographic importance, Indonesia could beceome even more politically unstable as the major powers all seek control and influence.
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China are really showing their hand.
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most of africa, most of the stans, some of the middle east, most of the sub-continent, most of south east asia
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through the belt and road, china is borrowing money, lending it to nations like africa and pacific islands at a higher interest rate knowing that these countries are near no chance of ever paying it back. they will be in debt to china and china will pretty much have full control and own them. not great when the mob that own you are communists
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yep the debt scams but we also have:
1) military mobilisation in civilian clothes laying claim to "it has always been ours, then putting on military clothes when tested (Russia, India, Japan and Korea)
2) We have military battles (Bhutan and India)
3) we have military forced possession (Philippines, Bhutan, India, Russia, Korea, Japan, Kazakh)
4) We have the construction of AUTOBAHNS to neighbouring countries............who else is famous for autobahn construction
then we have
1) buying off of politicians for favorable policy........Guinea, Fiji, Madagascar, everywhere including Australia
2) buying off of government department officials
then we have
1) gun running to enable coups or dictatorships (ChinaPoly) and the DRC
Sure the US and Russia are guilty of the same but do we need any of this s**t on our planet
Its after the Poms landed in Botany Bay. That apparently was an "invasion".
Who is it that has the most influence on Australian politics?
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Who is it that has the most influence on Australian politics?
Yes. Its scary how rich Americans own CBA. Except... https://www.marketscreener.com/COMMONWEALTH-BANK-OF-AUST-6492243/company/
Largest shareholders are investment funds which almost never meddle and simply tag along for the profit making ride.
Meanwhile... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06...-to-be-suspended-from-nsw-parliament/12400154
China wont be happy their man in the NSW Parliament may be going to gaol for being a traitor.
Also, how is the first politician charged not Gladis Liu?
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Yeah, bit if a misleading stat.
The majority of US ownership would be in Index funds and managed funds.
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Which Australians are free to invest in.
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