Roast The Chronicles of Alan Richardson

Who will be head coach in 2019?

  • Alan Richardson

    Votes: 24 20.2%
  • Mark Williams

    Votes: 4 3.4%
  • Brett Ratten

    Votes: 65 54.6%
  • Robert Harvey

    Votes: 12 10.1%
  • Mark Thompson

    Votes: 14 11.8%

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Richo’s members message singling out Armo positively.

“Dave competed reasonably strongly whilst he didn’t have a significant influence on the game”

Why even mention Armo? Campaigner knows his number is up and is trolling us now.
Yeah the whole obsession with "Dave" Richo has is just getting weird now. I honestly had to re-wind and watch the video a couple of times to see if I imagined what he was saying, thought I'd had too much to drink.

How could he talk up Armo after last night of all nights? It beggars belief, it doesn't make sense on so many levels.
 

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I think he's trying to make a show of how much he's prepared to back his players in. I think it's more about gaining the trust of the boys. Which is fine i guess in theory, but every man and his dog knows that armo's game last night was the worst of his career (and most careers). 8 touches 5 clangers. Maybe try and do it more subtly next time alan
Only 5 clangers thought he had at least 10
 

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I read somewhere (social media I can’t recall exactly where) that the pay out figure is a very modest 3 months of his yearly salary therefore probably in the 125-150k range.
Makes sense that there would be a get out clause. I’ve IT contracted for years and whether it’s a 3, 6 or 12 month contract there always a notice period for either party to serve if they need/want to (usually 4 weeks).

Footy is a bit different as I suppose there are a lot fewer senior coaching roles to walk into after (and the club needs to safeguard itself from having a coach that is performing well just quitting and going elsewhere), but would imagine that every coaching contract has some kind of severance option built in for the club and coach. Whether it’s performance based or just a straight up 3 month notice to terminate for either party.
 
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I read somewhere (social media I can’t recall exactly where) that the pay out figure is a very modest 3 months of his yearly salary therefore probably in the 125-150k range.
Settled then. Richo gone @ seasons end and 1.55 a season for Clarkson

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It's interesting. I agree. I also think there was a lag between Melbourne drafting them and then Melbourne being identified as good at drafting.

So what changed? Melbourne's head recruiter was poached and put in place prior to neeld.

So are people saying Melbourne's draft under neeld was shit and post neeld it was good?

Or maybe the drafting like you said was always good but the defining factor is as you suggest ARR, the development and coaching.

Melbourne poached McCarthy from memory and put him in charge of that. He was very good at developing players at geelong and then the dogs.
Case in point, Melbourne are now being lauded for their drafting/talent ID over the past 4/5 years, yet who would they have taken (according to Melbourne themselves) at picks 2 and 2/3, in the 2013 and 2014 drafts respectively?

Jack Billings (who Roos says they would have taken ahead of Josh Kelly had they kept pick 2) and Patrick McCartin.

Why, because they are "dud drafters", like Trout supposedly is, or because those two were considered extremely talented, after outstanding junior careers, and consensus top 3 picks, who the guys that identified Hogan, Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw, Neal-Bullen, Hunt, Fritsch etc would have drafted at either picks 2 or 3?

I'm going to go with the latter, and I would also confidently say that had they been at a club with better development and coaching, and with better current leadership, they would be tracking far better than they currently are with us (even taking into account Paddy's injury issues).

We saw the talent that Billings for instance possesses last year. Three 3 Brownlow vote games, including one of 30 disposals and 5 goals, yet this year he's battling big time, despite a second full type preseason and being closer to his prime years.

Is that because he's untalented and those games he played last year (or his 25 disposal 3 goal game in his first season, or his matchwinning game v WB in his 2nd season, etc) didn't actually happen, or what?

He has the talent, but it's the job of those coaching/developing him to bring out that talent on a consistent basis, and they're clearly not doing that. If it's not in fact their job, what the hell are we wasting our money paying them for?

He, like so many others on our list, is not playing anywhere near as well as we know from past experience he can, which means that Richo and his team are failing to get the best out of them, and that I would have thought is coaching at its core.

Getting the best out of your team and those in it.

If you're not getting anywhere near close to that, what point is there in you being there?
 

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Actually, last night I said it's going to be a one season win. How could I forget Carlton? All is not lost:D
Will carlton take walsh or lukoscius? Very interesting scenario indeed. Would adelaide part with 2 or 3 first rounders they have for luko? Im excited
 

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If it's easy to remove Richo, Finnis needs to be in Clarkson's ear right now offering 1.75 per year to win this club a ******* flag.

We need to be bold like Freo were to chase a flag we're never going to win being meek boring St Kilda that we are now.
 

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Will carlton take walsh or lukoscius? Very interesting scenario indeed. Would adelaide part with 2 or 3 first rounders they have for luko? Im excited
If we could get 3 first rounders for pick one wr would have to take it.

One top pick will not do anything for our list.

If we cant pick up at least one top end FA, we need at barest minimum two first rounders.

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I don't believe theres heaps to gain bringing in a coach mid season in a train wreck.
I don't mind it but they can't achieve a lot.

So I don't mind if we hang on to Richo this year but obviously he must go by the end of year.
Really before trade period so we can know whats happening.

What I don't want is us to see what happens next year, lose the first 6, sack him and right off the season.
Changes to game plan must be made now, season is already over.
 

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The worst thing the club can do is nothing. It's becoming more and more crushing with every week.

We've undergone a full rebuild to not play a single final and become as irrelevant as ever.

Incredible to think that this is where we've ended up - my biggest disappointment is the consistency of the bad performances.
Stretching back to JLT - you knew we weren't up for it, it hasn't been there all year and it's time for change in droves.

It hurts as a member and supporter to see where we've wound up. Those in charge need to be held responsible - maybe it is time to be a little more aggressive and not allow ourselves to tip-toe around these blatantly obvious inadequacies anymore.
 

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Also my personal thought is that I'm not even sure a coaching change alone is enough. It seems bigger than that, we at least played with intensity (I'm reluctant to use words like heart and passion) last year - this year it's all gone and it looks like we aren't interested.
That screams like there's cultural issues - leadership issues, coaching issues - it's across the board.
 
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If it's easy to remove Richo, Finnis needs to be in Clarkson's ear right now offering 1.75 per year to win this club a ******* flag.

We need to be bold like Freo were to chase a flag we're never going to win being meek boring St Kilda that we are now.
And pray tell how has that worked for Freo in the long term?
Yep made a Granny and then irrelevant since.

What the hell is with this clubs supporters and the Messiah complex?
Do we all forget Blight? We threw everything at him. Would have been better throwing that money in the bin. And yet there are people wanting to do the same with Clarko. Jeepers.

As some have said, at a minimum the assistants bar Playfair need to go at years end. Some have been there just way too long. Had been calls for a cleanout and fresh ideas at the end of last year but it didn't occur.
Club has 2 options.
1.Clear the entire Coaching department and start from scratch.
2. Clear the assistants and give Richo new fresh ideas. This is heavily reliant on how the team is perceived to be travelling by years end.

What I don't want to see is Richo getting the boot half way through the year and 1 of the assistants grabbing it as a kind of trial. Nothing against them but it is time for change. When you have had guys in there longer than the head coach something isn't going right. The amount of coaching positions that have been open over the last 10 years and we are still stuck with them???
 

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Also my personal thought is that I'm not even sure a coaching change alone is enough. It seems bigger than that, we at least played with intensity (I'm reluctant to use words like heart and passion) last year - this year it's all gone and it looks like we aren't interested.
That screams like there's cultural issues - leadership issues, coaching issues - it's across the board.
the coaches have a lot to do with that
 

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Sacking mid-season releases the pressure and gives us a bit of a dopamine hit. It also acts as a circuit-breaker.

Keeping him gives us stability and continuity until the end-of-season review. The players can continue to execute the game plan and know their roles very well.

I think the results will be the same at the end of the season either way. I'm slowly coming around to 'keep until September' but we need to become a lot more competitive than we are. If we end up with just 2-3 wins then that will be terrible for our overall development. A losing culture/rebuild mindset could take a while to replace and obviously trading & FA becomes a pipe dream. Aim for 7+ wins and smaller losing margins.

AR needs to reset this squad and continue to try new things. To his credit he has blooded a fair few kids and tried some in new roles (Newnes). Find ways of maximising the talent base and tinker with new set-ups.
 

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Case in point, Melbourne are now being lauded for their drafting/talent ID over the past 4/5 years, yet who would they have taken (according to Melbourne themselves) at picks 2 and 2/3, in the 2013 and 2014 drafts respectively?

Jack Billings (who Roos says they would have taken ahead of Josh Kelly had they kept pick 2) and Patrick McCartin.

Why, because they are "dud drafters", like Trout supposedly is, or because those two were considered extremely talented, after outstanding junior careers, and consensus top 3 picks, who the guys that identified Hogan, Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw, Neal-Bullen, Hunt, Fritsch etc would have drafted at either picks 2 or 3?

I'm going to go with the latter, and I would also confidently say that had they been at a club with better development and coaching, and with better current leadership, they would be tracking far better than they currently are with us (even taking into account Paddy's injury issues).

We saw the talent that Billings for instance possesses last year. Three 3 Brownlow vote games, including one of 30 disposals and 5 goals, yet this year he's battling big time, despite a second full type preseason and being closer to his prime years.

Is that because he's untalented and those games he played last year (or his 25 disposal 3 goal game in his first season, or his matchwinning game v WB in his 2nd season, etc) didn't actually happen, or what?

He has the talent, but it's the job of those coaching/developing him to bring out that talent on a consistent basis, and they're clearly not doing that. If it's not in fact their job, what the hell are we wasting our money paying them for?

He, like so many others on our list, is not playing anywhere near as well as we know from past experience he can, which means that Richo and his team are failing to get the best out of them, and that I would have thought is coaching at its core.

Getting the best out of your team and those in it.

If you're not getting anywhere near close to that, what point is there in you being there?

I think everyone would agree that Billings is talented and probably our most talented but is it Richo stopping him converting set shots? It's more the make up of our side is so poor that Billings should be the cherry on the cake rather than the sponge. He's ideally a finisher who gets easy supply and hasn't run ragged to help out up field. We have 2 senior players who are AFL standard in Carlisle and Stuv, a few mid career in Robbo, Webster and Ross and a couple of talent kids coming through in Billings and Gresham. We then have the new draftees that could be anything. Our list is on the very poor side and with injuries on top of that our large group of B grade talent has been decimated. It would be a miracle worker that could get up the team we had out on Saturday night unless we were playing one of the bottom teams.
 
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And pray tell how has that worked for Freo in the long term?
Yep made a Granny and then irrelevant since.

What the hell is with this clubs supporters and the Messiah complex?
Do we all forget Blight? We threw everything at him. Would have been better throwing that money in the bin. And yet there are people wanting to do the same with Clarko. Jeepers.

As some have said, at a minimum the assistants bar Playfair need to go at years end. Some have been there just way too long. Had been calls for a cleanout and fresh ideas at the end of last year but it didn't occur.
Club has 2 options.
1.Clear the entire Coaching department and start from scratch.
2. Clear the assistants and give Richo new fresh ideas. This is heavily reliant on how the team is perceived to be travelling by years end.

What I don't want to see is Richo getting the boot half way through the year and 1 of the assistants grabbing it as a kind of trial. Nothing against them but it is time for change. When you have had guys in there longer than the head coach something isn't going right. The amount of coaching positions that have been open over the last 10 years and we are still stuck with them???
Other than the fact that they are both premiership coaches what makes Clarko & Blighty anywhere near similar?
Just becoz one premiership coach lured out of retirement by money sh^t the bed does not mean a current ooc premiership coach will do the same.
 

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The worst thing the club can do is nothing. It's becoming more and more crushing with every week.

We've undergone a full rebuild to not play a single final and become as irrelevant as ever.

Incredible to think that this is where we've ended up - my biggest disappointment is the consistency of the bad performances.
Stretching back to JLT - you knew we weren't up for it, it hasn't been there all year and it's time for change in droves.

It hurts as a member and supporter to see where we've wound up. Those in charge need to be held responsible - maybe it is time to be a little more aggressive and not allow ourselves to tip-toe around these blatantly obvious inadequacies anymore.

I think the JLT we seemed cocky, the North game was the one where it was like they went into shock at what was happening and the facade of confidence disappeared. Now we look shell shocked and the injuries have made us completely uncompetitive. I think we have just tried to stem the bleeding now rather than believe we are a shot.

I heard Steele Sidebottom talking after the match and he said that he Pies were playing St Kilda's game in the first half and allowed us to set the tempo high. He said Bucks locked the game down once they got on top and just shut us down through congestion around the ball. We don't have anyone that can just pick the team up and break the dam wall down unfortunately. We need a Dusty.
 
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Other than the fact that they are both premiership coaches what makes Clarko & Blighty anywhere near similar?
Just becoz one premiership coach lured out of retirement by money sh^t the bed does not mean a current ooc premiership coach will do the same.
Throwing large amounts of money at someone to convince them to come to the club. If we are throwing stupid amounts of money on the hope of convincing someone then I see that as the money making the decision not the list.
Last time I checked Clarko has a contract until the end of 2019.
 
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