The clear-out of Australian political issues

GoldenSky

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The election result has given Australia a massive breather from so many annoying political tropes, cliches and radical left agendas.

No more republic talk.

No more Indigenous third chamber of Parliament talk.

No more "saving Medicare" talk.

No more Adani BS that most Australians can't understand.

No more "no climate change action from the Libs" talk.

No more "not enough Lib women" talk.

Bliss.

All confected issues formulated in the Canberra bubble by snobby and pretentious journos that have no idea about middle Australia.

So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?

This will also depend on who Labor elects as their leader, but what will they campaign on?
 

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The election result has given Australia a massive breather from so many annoying political tropes, cliches and radical left agendas.

No more republic talk.

No more Indigenous third chamber of Parliament talk.

No more "saving Medicare" talk.

No more Adani BS that most Australians can't understand.

No more "no climate change action from the Libs" talk.

No more "not enough Lib women" talk.

Bliss.

All confected issues formulated in the Canberra bubble by snobby and pretentious journos that have no idea about middle Australia.

So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?

This will also depend on who Labor elects as their leader, but what will they campaign on?
Should we downsize parliament? Or is that a bit radical for you.

They clearly waste a lot of money talking about not much

I guess we should be happy you got the message and aren’t anti Muslim signalling any more
 

GoldenSky

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Should we downsize parliament? Or is that a bit radical for you.
No our Parliament is reasonably small.

I guess we should be happy you got the message and aren’t anti Muslim signalling any more
Erm OK not sure what this means. You still on the same mode of imported American politics which was popular with the left here before the election?

Think you need to update your arsenal of insults, lol.
 

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Adani will be a huge issue if it gets the go ahead...not sure why people think it will be a jobs bonanza? Adani has stated that it plans to run the mine with the least amount of employees possible, actually, they stayed it'll be fully automated.

People thinking they're going to employ 10,000 people are ******* nuts.
 

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So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?
High quality, secure jobs of the future that will actually pay people's bills

Life-saving, life-changing heath care for every Australian, not just those who can afford top private cover

Taking action on climate change and becoming global leaders who reap the economic rewards, not laggards who cling to the dying high-carbon economy

The ability of all Australians to 'get ahead' and have a secure financial future, not just those who are already well-off

Genuinely looking after vulnerable Australians like the disabled and those looking for work, instead of kicking them while they're down because Johnny Fatcat the CEO wants a big tax cut
 

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So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?
I've sort of pointed this out in other threads. I think Libs won this election due to being inoffensive since Morrison was in power. But I think to win a second term, he has to seek a plan something bigger an get a mandate for it (Dealing with climate change could be such an issue?)

If Labor have learnt anything form this election, it's just to look normal and inoffensive in the media. Keep a lid on any huge ambitions and pick holes in the government that can't be denied.
 

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On social media, sure. But where it matters ? Probably not.

Unless the ABC decides to double down on the dead horse.
You‘re giving politicians way more credit than they deserve.

Politicians react to politics, they don’t make it. Capital, culture will go where it wants to and the Liberal Party will remain out of step. The division between boomers and young won’t go away, the division between those with a car or motorbike as their profile pick on FB and those that don’t won’t go away.

Liberals won on the back of economic anxiety and boomer socialism.


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HairyO

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You‘re giving politicians way more credit than they deserve.

Politicians react to politics, they don’t make it. Capital, culture will go where it wants to and the Liberal Party will remain out of step.
The winners of the unwinable election are out of step?

Time for some self reflection maybe.

If social media was a true barometer Labor would have won 90 seats, the Greens 50, Libs 20, Nats 2, and One Nation and other small parties the rest.
 

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On social media, sure. But where it matters ? Probably not.

Unless the ABC decides to double down on the dead horse.
Everyone is plugged into social media, what planet are you on?

Where does it “matter”? What platform is having more political discussion among the average voter than Facebook etc?

It’s far more likely that social media (boomers on Facebook) had an impact this election than traditional media.

It is very naive to think of social media as a millennial / young person thing.
 

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Everyone is plugged into social media, what planet are you on?

Where does it “matter”? What platform is having more political discussion among the average voter than Facebook etc?

It’s far more likely that social media (boomers on Facebook) had an impact this election than traditional media.

It is very naive to think of social media as a millennial / young person thing.
Yet social media were completely and utterly wrong in all their predictions. While everyone is plugged in, clearly most people really dont pay much attention to it. Beyond looking at baby otter videos.

Seriously. If youve never looked at baby otter videos do it. It will totally make your day.

Simple fact is, if social media were an accurate barometer we'd have Labor with a massive majority and the Greens with more seats than the Coalition.

But really. Check out baby otter videos.
 

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fyfe > dangerfield
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Yet social media were completely and utterly wrong in all their predictions.
What do you mean? Social media doesn’t make predictions. Facebook as an entity doesn’t predict the outcome of an election.

I think you are confusing journalists on social media with social media.
 

HairyO

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What do you mean? Social media doesn’t make predictions. Facebook as an entity doesn’t predict the outcome of an election.

I think you are confusing journalists on social media with social media.
How many old people on social media talk politics? How many young people?

The vast majority of political discussion is young people. Which is why you see such skewed beliefs.
 

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How many old people on social media talk politics? How many young people?

The vast majority of political discussion is young people. Which is why you see such skewed beliefs.
you would be surprised. not politics, but our SFA teamtread on BF started talking about ages of the posters, and most were surprised just how many 45+ posters we had in our team

people assume BF is mostly 20-30 somethings, but there is a massive number of peeps in their 40's, 50's and 60's on these boards
 

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Adani will be a huge issue if it gets the go ahead...not sure why people think it will be a jobs bonanza? Adani has stated that it plans to run the mine with the least amount of employees possible, actually, they stayed it'll be fully automated.

People thinking they're going to employ 10,000 people are ******* nuts.
It's been downsized significantly - a lot of people believe it now won't go ahead regardless of politics.

It's not 'a leftist conspiracy' to doubt he economics of the project.
 

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Adani will be a huge issue if it gets the go ahead...not sure why people think it will be a jobs bonanza? Adani has stated that it plans to run the mine with the least amount of employees possible, actually, they stayed it'll be fully automated.

People thinking they're going to employ 10,000 people are ******* nuts.
Mining construction is generally a jobs bonanza, at least in a short term sense, 1-3 years say. Operations far less, always has been that way.

Haul fleets are being autonomised on certain sites around Australia but they're not 100% foolproof. There has been instances of wifi signals dropping out and the whole place just stops. They won't be fully automated for many years yet.
 

GoldenSky

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What do you mean? Social media doesn’t make predictions. Facebook as an entity doesn’t predict the outcome of an election.

I think you are confusing journalists on social media with social media.
The problem is journos spend all their time broadcasting themselves on twitter, and twitter is 90% far-left in Australia. Same as in the US and UK. That's the problem.
 

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fyfe > dangerfield
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The problem is journos spend all their time broadcasting themselves on twitter, and twitter is 90% far-left in Australia. Same as in the US and UK. That's the problem.
Twitter is very small in comparison to Facebook. Facebook is still social media and has all flavours of political opinions. These things:
  • No more republic talk.
  • No more Indigenous third chamber of Parliament talk.
  • No more "saving Medicare" talk.
  • No more Adani BS that most Australians can't understand.
  • No more "no climate change action from the Libs" talk.
  • No more "not enough Lib women" talk.
Will still all get an airing on Facebook.
 

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fyfe > dangerfield
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I quit Facebook years ago in part because I got sick of reading people my age posting nonsense from places like Upworthy and Buzzfeed about complete non issues like manspreading or change the date, and then their baby boomer relatives commenting "Man spreading !! What is wrong with you soft Millennials ! ? " and " Captain cook founded Australia on that date !!"
 

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The election result has given Australia a massive breather from so many annoying political tropes, cliches and radical left agendas.

No more republic talk.

No more Indigenous third chamber of Parliament talk.

No more "saving Medicare" talk.

No more Adani BS that most Australians can't understand.

No more "no climate change action from the Libs" talk.

No more "not enough Lib women" talk.

Bliss.

All confected issues formulated in the Canberra bubble by snobby and pretentious journos that have no idea about middle Australia.

So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?

This will also depend on who Labor elects as their leader, but what will they campaign on?
From your point of view sure. But the election cycle is 3 years, it's a short time and many of those topics are still up for debate within and around the liberal party. It is quite easy to have a by-election soon enough and the Libs to lose their parliamentary majority on some of those issues along, especially if the ALP gets its act together with campaigning.

Your conservative blindness and divisiveness is a weakness.
 

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