Analysis The Coach - Simon Goodwin [The Journey]

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Goodwin wasn't our development coach...
I don’t know how it works down under. But if the head coach isn’t concerning himself with such a massive deficiency in such an important area, it would seem strange to me that he wouldn’t be near the top of the list for criticism.
 

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I don’t know how it works down under. But if the head coach isn’t concerning himself with such a massive deficiency in such an important area, it would seem strange to me that he wouldn’t be near the top of the list for criticism.
It's not about that, it's more that the head coach often doesn't take training or set the training programs.
Besides no one was saying he didn't do it before, just the new bloke Choco is completely obsessed with it. But he's not the head coach so he can be.
 

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Correct, but considering he is the coach, the man in charge, and his teams disposal efficiency is the worst in the league and has been poor for some time, it might be something he’d want to look at don’t you think
Yeah so they hired a ******* development coach who likes kicking drills
I don't even understand what youre unhappy at.
 

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If you take a look at the weekend in isolation our disposal efficiency was 64% to 69%. We could get the efficiency up but that would require us to play boring as bat sh*t Geelong style. We can be better no doubt and I do think we went too quick at times when we needed to be slow but I'm just saying there's a bit of a price to pay if you want to play quickly.
 

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Calm down, who said im unhappy I think it’s fantastic we have somebody prioritising an area we are worst in the league at
There's literally 0 evidence it wasn't prioritised before, it was just an anecdote about Williams that you've taken to a weird conclusion mate
 

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There's literally 0 evidence it wasn't prioritised before, it was just an anecdote about Williams that you've taken to a weird conclusion mate
I never said there wasn’t any evidence it hadn’t been work on before, what I’ve said is it’s fantastic the club is working on an area we are worst at the league at ie disposal efficiency, no weird conclusions there as long as you were being truthful regarding your anecdote
 

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If you take a look at the weekend in isolation our disposal efficiency was 64% to 69%. We could get the efficiency up but that would require us to play boring as bat sh*t Geelong style. We can be better no doubt and I do think we went too quick at times when we needed to be slow but I'm just saying there's a bit of a price to pay if you want to play quickly.
Yep good point, I’ll counter that to an extent by saying the bulldogs have had the ball more than any other team and also have the best efficiency, but that’s by hand and foot, if we can improve from 18 to 12 that would be massive
 

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Yep good point, I’ll counter that to an extent by saying the bulldogs have had the ball more than any other team and also have the best efficiency, but that’s by hand and foot, if we can improve from 18 to 12 that would be massive
I think the main thing to get right is hitting kicks under pressure. Look at the amount of turnover we caused against Geelong due to pressure.
 

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Richmond had the highest clanger count in premiership years. The biggest thing for us now is we are defending very well as a team without the ball. Doesn’t matter if we turn it over a bit when we are so hard to score against. This could all change for the worse in a couple weeks but for now disposal efficiency isn’t an issue.
 

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Our effort has been really good and very consistent for 4 weeks now. I’ve been particularly happy with our starts from the first bounce. Love that they start Kozzy in the centre to gives us an initial spark.

I think the effort levels speaks to the players buy-in and confidence at the moment, which at stages last year looked very low (Sydney, Freo games etc).

Long way to go yet but a very promising start with the visible changes already mentioned.
 

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Yep good point, I’ll counter that to an extent by saying the bulldogs have had the ball more than any other team and also have the best efficiency, but that’s by hand and foot, if we can improve from 18 to 12 that would be massive
We were ranked 11th in kicking and disposal efficiency last year. We have moved to a whopping 9th this year.
 

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Given Yze is our midfield coach any changes in our midfield since his appointment should logically be credited to him.

Oliver and Viney not clashing heads multiple times every quarter is one change, Brayshaw finding a role in the midfield when hardly anyone thought he was capable of this is another. Two big "ticks" right there IMO.

If we can show a consistent effort every game, change tactics mid-game, and not go to sleep halfway through a quarter etc. etc. etc. I think it's fair that Goodwin gets some credit for that.
 

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Given Yze is our midfield coach any changes in our midfield since his appointment should logically be credited to him.

Oliver and Viney not clashing heads multiple times every quarter is one change, Brayshaw finding a role in the midfield when hardly anyone thought he was capable of this is another. Two big "ticks" right there IMO.

If we can show a consistent effort every game, change tactics mid-game, and not go to sleep halfway through a quarter etc. etc. etc. I think it's fair that Goodwin gets some credit for that.
But was it Yze from start to finish or did Goodwin say "Hey Ooze, great to have you on board. I've identified that our midfield is playing for themselves, not for each other. I want you to focus on that and achieve outcomes a, b, and c."

These are the things we on the outside just can't ever know and mean it's pretty tough to pass judgement or attribute credit to any individual.
 

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It's no coincidence successful assistant coaches are at successful clubs! Haha. So many elements in play. Look at Sydney. Don Pyke comes on board and they are flying. Yze/Choco come on board and we are going well. I also think becoming a great coach takes some time. Maybe Goodwin has turned the corner? Listening to his assistants more? Willing to try new things? Helps we have some very good players on the list too. We seem to finally have a very good balanced list. I think him being at ground level is great too btw. I'm guessing Yze etc are up in the box. This possibly shows they have more control during gameday on what is happening on the field while Goodwin can talk to his players face to face. I think that is his strength as a coach. Building relationships with the players.
 

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But was it Yze from start to finish or did Goodwin say "Hey Ooze, great to have you on board. I've identified that our midfield is playing for themselves, not for each other. I want you to focus on that and achieve outcomes a, b, and c."
Fair call. Going by their job titles, I'd assume the senior coach would identify the outcomes they want, and the line coaches who work under them would achieve those outcomes.

Which means right now, as far as I can tell, Simon and Yze are both ******* legends :thumbsu:
 

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It's no coincidence successful assistant coaches are at successful clubs! Haha. So many elements in play. Look at Sydney. Don Pyke comes on board and they are flying. Yze/Choco come on board and we are going well. I also think becoming a great coach takes some time. Maybe Goodwin has turned the corner? Listening to his assistants more? Willing to try new things? Helps we have some very good players on the list too. We seem to finally have a very good balanced list. I think him being at ground level is great too btw. I'm guessing Yze etc are up in the box. This possibly shows they have more control during gameday on what is happening on the field while Goodwin can talk to his players face to face. I think that is his strength as a coach. Building relationships with the players.
I reckon you've hit it on the head when you say that Goodwin's strength is his relationship with the players. That's why he's down at the bench.

I'm not sure that he brings much else, given his bizarre decisions over the past couple of years. But that's OK. If everyone is doing the thing that they're good at and it's working, then you can't ask for much more.

I do feel that Richardson's role in identifying the issues and recommending the changes that have been made has probably been understated. Bringing in Yze and Choco was inspired (though a few posters here had been calling for exactly that), and I suspect there have been other changes made with regard to the decision making processes off field that could also be attributed to Richardson.
 

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We were ranked 11th in kicking and disposal efficiency last year. We have moved to a whopping 9th this year.
Not according to the AFL website, we are 6th for total disposals 18th for efficiency, the bulldogs according to the AFL website are are 1st and 1st.

Either way I’m struggling to understand why you’ve got your knickers in such a knot over this, I don’t think I could post anything less controversial than I think its fantastic that our club is working on their kicking, couldn’t possibly be fake outrage at play could it TK
 

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I think the main thing to get right is hitting kicks under pressure. Look at the amount of turnover we caused against Geelong due to pressure.
The pressure applied has been fantastic, leading the league in tackles inside 50 for instance, kicked a bit better and that game was over at halftime.
 

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Not according to the AFL website, we are 6th for total disposals 18th for efficiency, the bulldogs according to the AFL website are are 1st and 1st.

Either way I’m struggling to understand why you’ve got your knickers in such a knot over this, I don’t think I could post anything less controversial than I think its fantastic that our club is working on their kicking, couldn’t possibly be fake outrage at play could it TK
If anything that just shows what a useless stat disposal efficiency is. Noting that the difference between 1st and 18th is about 8%
 

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