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[Graffy4242]

Can anyone explain to me how John Barker seems to have retained his position?????????????

 

[Stamos]

Can anyone explain to me how John Barker seems to have retained his position?????????????

The club obviously rates him.
It's very hard to tell how good or bad an assistant coach is from outside of a club.

 

[Aphrodite]

Can anyone explain to me how John Barker seems to have retained his position?????????????

He still has a year to go on his contract.

 

[LanceRomance]

He still has a year to go on his contract.

Brett Ratten says hi

 

[Claypigeon]

Brett Ratten says hi

So does Williams. .. Did Richardson have a year to go too?

 

[Graffy4242]

He still has a year to go on his contract.

As did most of the other coaches.

His contract was not renewed at either Hawthorn or the Saints and the general opinion was that he had a negative effect on their forwardlines.

There were numerous threads during the season about how disfunctional our forwardline was, even taking into account our injuries.

Try searching for "John Barker" on the forum and see how many negative posts come up.

I can't recall any negativity posted about any of the other assistants who now no longer have a job.

Pretty sure Harks also reported that at training he seemed overly casual and looked like he was playing "kick to kick" most of the time rather than concentrating on instilling a structure.

So all in all, I just think it is very strange that he one of the very few assistants who has retained their position when logic would dictate he should have been the first to go.

 

[BlueBelle]

All of our Assistants had one year to go on their contracts.

Richardson left Collingwood because he and Malthouse didn't get along, therefore, he never had a chance of keeping his job once Mick was announced our coach

 

[thylacine60]

As did most of the other coaches.

His contract was not renewed at either Hawthorn or the Saints and the general opinion was that he had a negative effect on their forwardlines.

There were numerous threads during the season about how disfunctional our forwardline was, even taking into account our injuries.

Try searching for "John Barker" on the forum and see how many negative posts come up.

I can't recall any negativity posted about any of the other assistants who now no longer have a job.

Pretty sure Harks also reported that at training he seemed overly casual and looked like he was playing "kick to kick" most of the time rather than concentrating on instilling a structure.

So all in all, I just think it is very strange that he one of the very few assistants who has retained their position when logic would dictate he should have been the first to go.

My exact observations on that useless rat, Libba.

 

[Keyza]

The HUN is reporting Luke Webster will be appointed the coach of the Northern Blues.

 

[HARKER]

Pretty sure Harks also reported that at training he seemed overly casual and looked like he was playing "kick to kick" most of the time rather than concentrating on instilling a structure.

I can only comment on what I see, but it is important to remember that I don't spend the week with the CFC.
Certain situations take your attention when you see them on an ongoing basis.

On the strength of my observation of coaches intent, I would have had Williams stay and Barker ousted.
Of course it's not that simple.

Barker still has a good leg on him and he certainly loves seeing his torps sail through the goal posts.

 

[Sin City]

The HUN is reporting Luke Webster will be appointed the coach of the Northern Blues.

Sounds good to me

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Can anyone explain to me how John Barker seems to have retained his position?????????????

I know that several of the senior players LOVE Barker and are unequivocal that he is by far the best of the assistant coaches.

 

[Graffy4242]

I know that several of the senior players LOVE Barker and are unequivocal that he is by far the best of the assistant coaches.

Well if he is really as good as the players say and we still have a very disfunctional forwardline, then we are in more trouble than I thought we were.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Well if he is really as good as the players say and we still have a very disfunctional forwardline, then we are in more trouble than I thought we were.

It is overly simplistic to think that an apparently dysfunctional forward line is the fault of the forward line coach alone. In fact I think it is extremely difficult for outsiders to assess the work of the assistant coaches - for all we know Ratten might have regularly overruled Barker and dictated what structures he wanted inside 50. At the end of the day, forward lines look far better if the midfield is dominating and getting the ball in quickly.

Malthouse's 'three tall forward' structure will give Barker far more to work with than the Waite/resting ruckman combination of 2012.

 

[Stamos]

At the end of the day, forward lines look far better if the midfield is dominating and getting the ball in quickly.

This.
Also. Walker was injured or unfit for much of the year, and was given a role much further up the ground. Garlett had a poor year, and on top of that, missed a lot of easy goals. Not to mention Waite only played half the year. As did Hampson.

Play a fit forwardline of something like:

Garlett, Waite, Armfield
Walker, Hampson, Betts

for 22 games and I reckon it would function pretty well

 

[Bradschi]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149309/default.aspx

With the rumours going around that we might have secured one of the norwood boys, it makes kinda makes sense that we haven't annouced our last assistant coach yet because the SANFL commitments that ended just today.
Here's to hoping that we announce something this week

 

[Big Sim]

Any more whispers? Anyone?

 

[The Coach]

This.
Also. Walker was injured or unfit for much of the year, and was given a role much further up the ground. Garlett had a poor year, and on top of that, missed a lot of easy goals. Not to mention Waite only played half the year. As did Hampson.

Play a fit forwardline of something like:

Garlett, Waite, Armfield
Walker, Hampson, Betts

for 22 games and I reckon it would function pretty well

It doesn't look too exciting though

Jeff (must resurrect his career) Waite (A Gr. but must stay fit) Armie (playing defensive forw?)
Walker (needs consistency) Hammer (huge ? Prefer Levi - can clunk one) Eddie (would love us to have a FF)

 

[King of Ruin]

Speaking of Betts how many more goals does everyone think he can snag up next year if our forward line stays solid?

 

[pepalenko]

Speaking of Betts how many more goals does everyone think he can snag up next year if our forward line stays solid?

If our forward line has all the key guys in there or improves in some capacity, he may not have to improve on his tally. I'd like to see a more even spread.

 

[choo]

The HUN is reporting Luke Webster will be appointed the coach of the Northern Blues.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/149379/default.aspx
Done

 

[Snoozer]

It is overly simplistic to think that an apparently dysfunctional forward line is the fault of the forward line coach alone. In fact I think it is extremely difficult for outsiders to assess the work of the assistant coaches - for all we know Ratten might have regularly overruled Barker and dictated what structures he wanted inside 50. At the end of the day, forward lines look far better if the midfield is dominating and getting the ball in quickly.

Malthouse's 'three tall forward' structure will give Barker far more to work with than the Waite/resting ruckman combination of 2012.

Spot on. Midfields make or break forward lines (and backlines for that matter). Not Barker's fault.

 

[Aphrodite]

Make it happen.

Andrew McLeod firms for an Assistant Coach role at Carlton

ANDREW McLeod's return to full-time work in the AFL is unfolding at Carlton.

McLeod has not had a full-time role at an AFL club since he retired at Adelaide as a much-celebrated player in 2010.
Since then he has worked in the AFL-SANFL programs for community and indigenous football development and this year as a part-time skills coach at Adelaide and assistant coach to Bassett at Norwood.

The Blues will have a new assistant coaching panel after Paul Williams, Mark Riley and Alan Richardson all parted company with the club following the sacking of Brett Ratten.

Andrew McLeod firms for an Assistant Coach role at Carlton

 

[Sin City]

Like

 

[Silvagnis]

We'll need Mcleod if we draft Garlett and play him in the midfield with Yarran.