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mr bagcroft

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I worked in restaurants for about 5 years in the early 2000s. Lots of partying, a bit of fooling around with co-workers, a relationship with one. But I don't recall it ever being acceptable to touch or 'flick' the bottom of a female colleague. I also don't recall ever seeing that kind of behaviour.
Thats what I would have thought.
As much as some PC stuff shits me to tears these days.
Inappropriate touching of work mates isnt one of them.
If you have general respect for people, you just dont do it do you?
 

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I worked in restaurants for about 5 years in the early 2000s. Lots of partying, a bit of fooling around with co-workers, a relationship with one. But I don't recall it ever being acceptable to touch or 'flick' the bottom of a female colleague. I also don't recall ever seeing that kind of behaviour.
Same, I worked in them on and off as a first job and a bit later as a second job and never saw it. The only flick of a tea towell I ever got was off one of my brothers and it was designed to hurt. Turned into a massive punch up where we both drew blood and got grounded for wrecking the dining room.
 

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When was that, 60s?
You've led very a sheltered life. I can tell you stories of females being the 'aggressor' towards myself from 2010 and back. BTW I didn't actually see them as aggressors, every one of them was just having fun and it never bothered me at all. Why would it. Obviously happened with male 'aggressors' as well (not towards me, apart from just the once).

These days you need a contract or non-disclosure in place before even asking someone on a date, or so it seems.
 

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You've led very a sheltered life. I can tell you stories of females being the 'aggressor' towards myself from 2010 and back. BTW I didn't actually see them as aggressors, every one of them was just having fun and it never bothered me at all. Why would it. Obviously happened with male 'aggressors' as well (not towards me, apart from just the once).

These days you need a contract or non-disclosure in place before even asking someone on a date, or so it seems.
Bullies have existed forever, call it as you will.
 

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I worked in restaurants and flicking a waitress on the arse with a tea towel was just accepted playing around & nothing more was thought of it unless she actually got mad and said no more. Then the worst you copped was a manager coming over to tell you to cool it.
So you were just a serial pest?
 

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I did workplace experience in the 90s. It was in a small accountants office. There was a nude calendar in the dunnies which was used by all the staff, most of which were women. In the 80s I sometimes tailed along with my grandfather as a furniture removalist. In the HQ dunnies there were pornos stacked on the cisterns. Even in the 2000s I remember our email server going down because guys were sharing porno vids via email.

I can't imagine seeing something like that in a workplace these days. In recent years I have worked at multiple companies where the policy stated that if you drink a sip of alcohol (at lunch) you can't return to the office. A fair way off compared to twenty or even ten years ago.

Community standards around many things have changed. The same behaviours accepted at a Christmas party 20 years ago wouldn't be accepted today.
 

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I did workplace experience in the 90s. It was in a small accountants office. There was a nude calendar in the dunnies which was used by all the staff, most of which were women. In the 80s I sometimes tailed along with my grandfather as a furniture removalist. In the HQ dunnies there were pornos stacked on the cisterns. Even in the 2000s I remember our email server going down because guys were sharing porno vids via email.

I can't imagine seeing something like that in a workplace these days. In recent years I have worked at multiple companies where the policy stated that if you drink a sip of alcohol (at lunch) you can't return to the office. A fair way off compared to twenty or even ten years ago.

Community standards around many things have changed. The same behaviours accepted at a Christmas party 20 years ago wouldn't be accepted today.
Yes, the 80s and 90s were different. McLaughlin offended in the last decade, so it's not like standards were different back then.

I worked in advertising in the late 90s. Certain staff members received complimentary penthouse, picture and Playboy every month. I don't recall unwanted physical contact ever being acceptable even then.
 

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Yes, the 80s and 90s were different. McLaughlin offended in the last decade, so it's not like standards were different back then.

I worked in advertising in the late 90s. Certain staff members received complimentary penthouse, picture and Playboy every month. I don't recall unwanted physical contact ever being acceptable even then.
Come on, a sane person looking at a Playboy magazine, they'd ..... what ?
 

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Yes, the 80s and 90s were different. McLaughlin offended in the last decade, so it's not like standards were different back then.

I worked in advertising in the late 90s. Certain staff members received complimentary penthouse, picture and Playboy every month. I don't recall unwanted physical contact ever being acceptable even then.
'Unwanted' is the operative word there. People generally didn't take offence at being slapped on the butt or someone putting an arm around them back then, so it wasn't always frowned upon or even 'unwanted'. These days being offended is a major industry.
 

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'Unwanted' is the operative word there. People generally didn't take offence at being slapped on the butt or someone putting an arm around them back then, so it wasn't always frowned upon or even 'unwanted'. These days being offended is a major industry.
At least in that workplace (late 90s large corporate advertising agency in Adelaide), with those colleagues (lots of young people, often extroverted party-types, some older staff, semi-professional at best), I feel fairly certain the younger female staff would not have wanted to be touched by their male colleagues (putting an arm around somebody in a friendly non-sexual way doesn't really count, as you might put your arm around a man or woman in certain situations) or tolerated it. Don't know how old you are, but I cannot recall a time where sleaziness was looked upon favourably in any situation (I'm 40).
 

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