The Cricket Thread

[grizzlym]

And the third umpire can't even get it right on DRS. It's a disgrace.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

And the third umpire can't even get it right on DRS. It's a disgrace.

I just dont see how the third umpire couldnt give that out? If he cant see that then surely he shouldnt be umpiring cricket....

 

[grizzlym]

I just dont see how the third umpire couldnt give that out? If he cant see that then surely he shouldnt be umpiring cricket....

Interesting, before DRS the umpire would have probably asked the fielder. Who would have given one of three answers: yes, no or 'not sure'.

In the case we just sure, if he'd done that he would have made the right decision. Yet we have the stupidity of the DRS system, and even with all that technology, they get it wrong. It's a farce.

 

[Hand]

Sick and tired of international cricket. Not only because the Australian team don't seem to give a damn, but also the way in which technology is ruining the game. Adam Gilchrist has it spot on in this article:

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Stolen from the cricket board

Farce

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I guess you can say, we're well and truly "Rooted".

Root now has 50 more than the entire Australian team ... and building. Wow, this is embarrassing, nearly 600 behind with still 5 wickets to fall. The only interest in this match is whether England can build a lead of over 800 and try to eclipse their own record for the biggest win in Test cricket which is an Innings & 579 against Australia at the Oval in 1938.

 

[Henry Jr]

The highest target England have set Australia in an #Ashes Test is 742 at Brisbane in 1928. England won by 675 runs.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Sick and tired of international cricket. Not only because the Australian team don't seem to give a damn, but also the way in which technology is ruining the game. Adam Gilchrist has it spot on in this article:

I particularly liked his opinion of it being an indictment on cricket that players can question an umpoire's decision. That is the major reason why I despise the DRS. As a boy I was always taught that batsmen bat, bowlers bowl, umpires do the umpiring, and if everyone just concentrated on their own tasks, the game would be in good shape.

If they insist upon having the bloody thing, then do away with umpires on the field altogether and have them sitting in a box watching the game on the screen, and take it out of the players' hands. All they are taking responsibility for at the moment is hanging onto bowlers' caps and jumpers. Good money for just being a hat rack.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

The highest target England have set Australia in an #Ashes Test is 742 at Brisbane in 1928. England won by 675 runs.

Quite right, I'd forgotten that one. Still attainable though.

I remember Bill Lawry setting the West Indies 735 to win in 1968-69. Ruthless stuff

 

[Henry Jr]

Would we be complaining any more / less if DRS wasn't here? Take DRS out of the equation, the Poms have had the better run with the umpires in the middle making the decisions (not saying thats the reason why we are gettings pants btw).

Rogers - given out to a full toss missing leg
Broad - given not out despite hitting it to slip

DRS increases the decision making by approx 5% (goes from 90 > 95)

 

[grizzlym]

The DRS isn't why we're being slaughtered in this test. We're simply not good enough. Way off the mark.

You could make an argument that it might have contributed to us losing in the first test i.e. Broad.

My beef with the whole referral/DRS thing is it's so half-arsed. It isn't even doing what it's in there to do: get rid of obvious howlers.

 

[grizzlym]

Tim Lane has a good article in The Age about DRS today:

"Last week, the failings of the process - with 20 years of refinement built in - were derided by the entire cricket community. In the end, the game was no more saved from flawed outcomes than when decisions were made by humans in the old days. Only now, the flaws are less forgivable."

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cric...ppointment-20130720-2qbcz.html?skin=text-only

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Rogers - given out to a full toss missing leg

I didn't see this one so I'm not arguing, but just adding when hit on the full by a full toss, the ball only has to hit in line with the stumps, it doesn't matter if it would have missed leg.

 

[Henry Jr]

I didn't see this one so I'm not arguing, but just adding when hit on the full by a full toss, the ball only has to hit in line with the stumps, it doesn't matter if it would have missed leg.

Im confused. Your saying the law is that if you get hit by a full toss, its irrelevant if its hitting the stumps or not?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Im confused. Your saying the law is that if you get hit by a full toss, its irrelevant if its hitting the stumps or not?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. It was introduced 2 or 3 years ago. I don't agree with it, but if you get hit on the pad on the full, the umpire has to assume the ball will continue in a straight line. So, if you get hit in line, even through the ball was possibly drifting down leg, it's out.

 

[Garf]

England will need at least 5 sessions to try and knock the Aussies over again, so I'm expecting a happy hour first up today, then a declaration, or they declare if Root gets to 200 quickly.

Apart from odd variable bounce, the pitch doesn't seem to be too bad.

 

[Langford4FBOTC]

England will need at least 5 sessions to try and knock the Aussies over again, so I'm expecting a happy hour first up today, then a declaration, or they declare if Root gets to 200 quickly.

Apart from odd variable bounce, the pitch doesn't seem to be too bad.

On current form, they'll need 2 1/2 sessions. I expect them to humiliate us.

 

[Langford4FBOTC]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. It was introduced 2 or 3 years ago. I don't agree with it, but if you get hit on the pad on the full, the umpire has to assume the ball will continue in a straight line. So, if you get hit in line, even through the ball was possibly drifting down leg, it's out.

I wondered about that rule. Certainly has come into play with yorkers hitting the boot in the full. The commentators made no reference to it at the time. It hit him just below the belt, so could have been too high for that rule to take effect.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I wondered about that rule. Certainly has come into play with yorkers hitting the boot in the full. The commentators made no reference to it at the time. It hit him just below the belt, so could have been too high for that rule to take effect.

Yep, as I said, I haven't seen it so I don't know if it was a fair decision of not.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Not really sure what England were trying to achieve this morning.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

How many overs will we survive before being bowled out?

I think we will bat out the day....just

 

[Henry Jr]

England will need only 50 minutes to try and knock the Aussies over again, so I'm expecting a happy hour first up today, then a declaration, or they declare if Root gets to 200 quickly.

Apart from odd variable bounce, the pitch doesn't seem to be too bad.

Edited for accuracy

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I would hope that Clarkey and Boof had said to the boys to just get out there, get your heads down, and bat. Forget the bloody scoreboard, just occupy the crease for as long as possible. It may not help us win this Test, but it would go a long way towards giving a shot at winning the series. Any batsman who gets out in this innings playing a bad shot to the wrong ball should be dropped.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

I would hope that Clarkey and Boof had said to the boys to just get out there, get your heads down, and bat. Forget the bloody scoreboard, just occupy the crease for as long as possible. It may not help us win this Test, but it would go a long way towards giving a shot at winning the series. Any batsman who gets out in this innings playing a bad shot to the wrong ball should be dropped.

Agree with this.

It is the perfect opportunity for blokes to spend long periods of time at the crease and get some form. Especially Usman, this is his opportunity to make some runs and try and cement a position (dreadful shot in the first innings though).

 

[grizzlym]

Watson to look like a million dollars - dominant off front and back foot, crunching drives, scything cuts - racing to thirty odd in quick time before playing around his pad and being given out LBW.

The obligatory vanity referral will follow. And fail. Rinse and repeat for another 30 tests.