The Deadly Need For Speed

[rdhopkins2]

This is shocking. 2 young lives snuffed out after crashing a stolen car. I can only imagine what the families are going through, the emergency services who attended the scene and so on.

Two teenagers die after crashing allegedly stolen car in Melbourne

Police say the crash scene in Rowville, in Melbourne's south-east, was discovered by another motorist in the early hours of Sunday morning.

amp.abc.net.au

But why?

The kids didn’t manage to kill or hurt anyone else.

The next day we have another stolen car driven at 250km/hr by some kids in Melbourne.

Teens allegedly ram police car, hit speeds of 250kph in Melbourne

It is alleged machetes and knives were found in a stolen car that was recorded driving at excessive speeds after ramming a police car in Mooroolbark.

amp.abc.net.au

What has to change to get the message through?

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Nearly every car commercial is based on speed.

People don't garage cars but leave them out on the driveway like candy for thieves.

The parent of yesterday's crash of a 16yo was adamant that her son didn't steal the car but never said anything about him driving and crashing a stolen car, if she can't accept the consequences then who can.

Unfortunately real teachers have deserted the education department in droves because students don't have to obey any rule.

Some parents threaten legal action against anybody who chastises thier child which has created the ENTITLED generation.

Kids going to school with a great story of stealing a car, getting arrested and allowed straight out to go back to school and tell all thier friends of the non consequences they don't have to face. It's now so prolific it can't be stopped.

What a mess we've created that is nearly impossible to stop.

 

[faible]

This is shocking. 2 young lives snuffed out after crashing a stolen car. I can only imagine what the families are going through, the emergency services who attended the scene and so on.

Two teenagers die after crashing allegedly stolen car in Melbourne

Police say the crash scene in Rowville, in Melbourne's south-east, was discovered by another motorist in the early hours of Sunday morning.

amp.abc.net.au

But why?

The kids didn’t manage to kill or hurt anyone else.

The next day we have another stolen car driven at 250km/hr by some kids in Melbourne.

Teens allegedly ram police car, hit speeds of 250kph in Melbourne

It is alleged machetes and knives were found in a stolen car that was recorded driving at excessive speeds after ramming a police car in Mooroolbark.

amp.abc.net.au

What has to change to get the message through?

What message though?

Young people take more risky behaviour because they're not mentally developed and mature enough to consider the consequences of their actions. Until / unless they see a mate of theirs die they're unlikely to care. Hell, even if they do they might not.

 

[BomberManU]

What message though?

Young people take more risky behaviour because they're not mentally developed and mature enough to consider the consequences of their actions. Until / unless they see a mate of theirs die they're unlikely to care. Hell, even if they do they might not.

That definitely applies to your run-of-the-mill speeding/dumb arse teenage behavior, but crime related crashes seem to be the flavour of the month.
Not sure what the actual stats are, but most of the crashes reported in the media are stolen cars. And a lot appear to be the result of aggravated break ins, where the cars are garaged, or at least behind gates. Is there really a 'youth crime' problem?...I'd say yes, the government/authorities certainly seem to think so.
As a comparison, I thought the 'tobacco war' arson attacks were being over reported, until they released the number there had actually been. If anything, it was being under reported!

 

[faible]

That definitely applies to your run-of-the-mill speeding/dumb arse teenage behavior, but crime related crashes seem to be the flavour of the month.
Not sure what the actual stats are, but most of the crashes reported in the media are stolen cars. And a lot appear to be the result of aggravated break ins, where the cars are garaged, or at least behind gates. Is there really a 'youth crime' problem?...I'd say yes, the government/authorities certainly seem to think so.
As a comparison, I thought the 'tobacco war' arson attacks were being over reported, until they released the number there had actually been. If anything, it was being under reported!

I'm not sure relying on the media reports is the best way to assess the prevalence of anything.

The Government can also be quite tokenistic; if the media reports a youth crimes epidemic, and the government does <things> to address a youth crime epidemic, voters will like that. Whether there's really a youth crime epidemic or not.

People stealing cars and driving them at obscene speeds isn't new, not sure if it's 'more' prevalent today with cars you have to actually steal the keys versus when you could hotwire them.

It would 'appear' that many of these offenders are repeat offenders of some kind or another, which is unsurprising but also probably suggests whatever interventions they're doing aren't necessarily the most successful.

How do you educate disenfranchised young people not to commit crimes? I'm not sure you really can. The best solution is having less disenfranchised young people IMO.

 

[BomberManU]

I'm not sure relying on the media reports is the best way to assess the prevalence of anything.

...which is why I said 'not sure what the stats are'.
Social media certainly amplifies everything, so can be hard to know the reality, sometimes.

 

[kaiserchief13]

The media has made out like these guys were victims. Yes they were young but not every teenager is going around stealing cars and speeding excessively are they?

 

[jason_recliner]

. The best solution is having less disenfranchised young people IMO.

Darwinian evolution?

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Darwinian evolution?

that or a social rising of the tides.