the difference between melb rich

[Madison]

Umm, he was refering to the teams that lined up on the weekend you goose.

Not overall lists.

 

[Bojangles17]

geez thats a good spin on it.

melb average age as of the start of the yr was 22yrs 187 days.
rich ave age was 22yrs 152 days.

at the start of this yr melbournes list boasted an average of 44 games per player richmonds boasted 42 games per player

both clubs boast 16 players with 50 games or more to their name.

richmond boast 25 players aged 22 or under
melb boast 27.

richmond boast 4 players aged 28 or more melb boast 3.

the one big difference between the lists is quality or polish or skills what ever you want to call it.

because of the quality difference we have to have another clean out melb dont.
so in effect we are at least one season behind them.

spare us the **** and bull santa, would have Cotch, Foley and Collo made any diff...I rest my case

 

[santa claws]

spare us the **** and bull santa, would have Cotch, Foley and Collo made any diff...I rest my case

lol so we have 3 injuries and we cant compete.

i dont suppose moloney gysberts tapscott grimes miller petterd warnock morton would not have helped melb.

sheesh i cant wait for next yr when the footy gods stop smiling at us and we get an injury run like brisbane or most other clubs for that matter.we have been blessed again with injurys and here you are talking what ifs if 3 players were available.
the simple fact is the major difference between their list and ours is quality.

we are light yrs away in this regard and its players like white tuck edwards connors jackson king graham mcguane who are at best okay by foot or with smarts.
we will always battle against highly skilled sides with these blokes in the side.
sheesh you mention foley mate his footskills are poor yep he would add to the team but he would add to an area we are already okay at that is getting it inside. he would add to a chronic problem under pressure and that is turnovers poor ball use and poor decision making.

 

[Azzleberry]

lol so we have 3 injuries and we cant compete.

i dont suppose moloney gysberts tapscott grimes miller petterd warnock morton would not have helped melb.

sheesh i cant wait for next yr when the footy gods stop smiling at us and we get an injury run like brisbane or most other clubs for that matter.we have been blessed again with injurys and here you are talking what ifs if 3 players were available.
the simple fact is the major difference between their list and ours is quality.

we are light yrs away in this regard and its players like white tuck edwards connors jackson king graham mcguane who are at best okay by foot or with smarts.
we will always battle against highly skilled sides with these blokes in the side.
sheesh you mention foley mate his footskills are poor yep he would add to the team but he would add to an area we are already okay at that is getting it inside. he would add to a chronic problem under pressure and that is turnovers poor ball use and poor decision making.

Those players highlighted would get a game at 12 other clubs (at least)..

 

[blaisee]

Realistically if the following were playing

Moloney,Morton,Bate,Gysberts,Petterd & Grimes we would of won by 8-10 goals not five!

morton was dropped

 

[jihg]

The difference is we played poorly and yet it was only in the last quarter that Melbourne were really able to pull away. We are in my opinion 2 years behind Melbourne a decent team would have had a percentage boosting win against us the way we played.

 

[Swampfox]

Some of you Richmond posters are a bit harsh on your future

IMO your greatest asset is your Coach

For years you have not had a coach who can actually develop players

This win for today and bugger the future theme hasnt worked

Brisbane just found that out the hard way

Richmonds core group is not quite to Melbournes level but you at least do have some promising youngsters

There isnt that much between you and North Melbourne at this stage

Melbourne have had the huge advantage of the draft and that door has basically closed for every other team in the competition excpet GC Suns and GWS for the next couple of years

Hardwick will be working hard on developing a defence as thats where most teams start with rebuilds

I see good signs for the Tigers albeit it will take a few years

I would expect Richmond to be very agressive in future trades and drafts

Richmond like Melbourne are no longer easy beats thats for sure

 

[Tiger08]

Sorry? Melbourne supporters arent passionate? What planet are you living on? What year do you live in? Has Debt demolition proved nothing to you? We currently have the 6th highest attendance in the league this year. We've just wiped off nearly 6 million dollars of debt in two years. If anything, we should be heralded as THE MOST passionate supporters going around at the moment. Anyone with a brain who follows footy would tell you the tremendous effort by both the club and supporters has been nothing short of miraculous. And yep, post count on bigfooty is the measure of supporters passion

Your comment is probably the worst most ill-informed bullsh*t I've read on here outside the bay. Open up your eyes you fool

Kudos to the club and to Jim Stynes for the Debt Demolition program. A great effort no doubt and I've no reason to criticise that program.

Let's just hope that your club can convince all those people (who could afford to donate so much cash) to join as members and to go to games in the future.

 

[TelkoTheGreat]

Richmond like Melbourne are no longer easy beats thats for sure

Both will pass Carlton very soon

 

[docko911]

Yeah Melbourne are so far ahead of Richmond

YOU ARE ****ING KIDDING!

 

[mcuzzy]

I found out today that one player who had his worst game for the year yesterday was at home today crook with the flu, maybe a couple of others had it too as quite a few just looked flat all game and ran out of legs in the last qtr.

who?

 

[Toadvine]

I think he's talking about Tuck.

 

[smasha]

Gives you a better feeling losing to a team that played us like poker and used us to get extra players and are a year ahead in development but for us to only lose in the last ten mins of the game.

Felt proud to be a Richmond supporter.

 

[Bojangles17]

lol so we have 3 injuries and we cant compete.

i dont suppose moloney gysberts tapscott grimes miller petterd warnock morton would not have helped melb..

lol nice try, want me to add Post, and relton roberts to sq up your argument, Im talking the silk in our side, expand your horizons ol son and stop looking at things through a straw

ed. we haven't got 3 injuries, more like 10..I was referring to A graders, sorry to confuse

 

[Bazzar]

Andrew D. Collins diagnosis unknown Rnd 18

Trent Cotchin Suspension Rnd 16

Matt Dea foot injury Rnd 7 Back Rnd 21

Nathan Foley ankle sprain Rnd 9 End of season Has had surgery

Ben Griffiths shoulder dislocation Rnd 15 End of season

Tom Hislop patella tendinopathy Rnd 12 End of seasonHas had surgery

Jordon McMahon ankle sprain Rnd 16 Back Rnd 20

Relton Roberts Rnd 14 End of season Has returned home for personal reasons

Richard Tambling hip cartilage injury Rnd 17 End of season Has had hip surgery

Adam Thomson groin injury Rnd 11 End of season

 

[santa claws]

Umm, he was refering to the teams that lined up on the weekend you goose.

Not overall lists.

like i said its a good spin. stats you can make suit any argument.

for instance yes melb ave 80 games on the weekend and we averaged 65.

melb played three blokes with well over 200 games we played just one.here in lies the real differential in games played.

melb played 9 blokes with less than 50 games so did we.
melb played 10 between 50 and 99 games so did we.
melb played three blokes with 100 - 199 games so did we.

the main differential in games played came from just two aging 200 game players.

anyway this takes away from the point being made the real difference between the teams is the quality of players on each list. the difference in ball use due to better skills shone out a mile.

 

[santa claws]

lol nice try, want me to add Post, and relton roberts to sq up your argument, Im talking the silk in our side, expand your horizons ol son and stop looking at things through a straw

ed. we haven't got 3 injuries, more like 10..I was referring to A graders, sorry to confuse

so cotchin foley and collins are all A graders now.sheesh.

 

[Hannabal]

Let's just hope that your club can convince all those people (who could afford to donate so much cash) to join as members and to go to games in the future.

We have the highest conversion rate of supporters to members in the league - 33,300+.

Our average home attendance figures for 2010 are higher than Richmond's despite having a far inferior supporter base.

All this on the back of two wooden spoons.

Stop posting.

 

[richoatthedisco]

the one big difference between the lists is quality or polish or skills what ever you want to call it.

because of the quality difference we have to have another clean out melb dont.
so in effect we are at least one season behind them.

I agree. I also think that with the right choices, judicious trades, free agency, and if players like Griffiths and Taylor fulfill their talents, we could go past them inside three years. They might then go past us again a year or two later...

the simple fact is the major difference between their list and ours is quality.

we are light yrs away in this regard and its players like white tuck edwards connors jackson king graham mcguane who are at best okay by foot or with smarts.
we will always battle against highly skilled sides with these blokes in the side.

I wouldn't say light years, more like one more influx of quality kids and a prudent trade or two. I take exception to the inclusion of Edwards and Connors in the above - these are blokes who make positive things happen far more often than negative. Going forward only one of Jacko or Tuck should be required, but Morton's performance was a strong indicator he could move into a big-bodied midfielder role, with the bonus he has elite kicking.

sheesh you mention foley mate his footskills are poor yep he would add to the team but he would add to an area we are already okay at that is getting it inside. he would add to a chronic problem under pressure and that is turnovers poor ball use and poor decision making.

Rubbish. Foley makes an enormous difference to our side. He's not a super kick but he does make good decisions. His ability to win the ball in close and burst into space gives him the time to make those decisions. Look at the first Freo game this year (I hope you were there). It was the first time we were competitive all year and Foley was superb. If teams don't tag him he will chop them up - if they do it likely leaves one of Cotch or Martin free (or Lids, when he returns to the midfield as he surely will at some stage).

Melbourne have had the huge advantage of the draft and that door has basically closed for every other team in the competition excpet GC Suns and GWS for the next couple of years

We'll still get a guy who would have been top-10-15 in an uncompromised draft. You'll get a late second-rounder with your first pick.

Both will pass Carlton very soon

Cheers to that!

 

[Tiger08]

We have the highest conversion rate of supporters to members in the league - 33,300+.

Is that supposed to be a stat to prove your point is it? Nice one. Oh.. you were the Humanities guy weren't you? That makes sense.

Our average home attendance figures for 2010 are higher than Richmond's despite having a far inferior supporter base.

All this on the back of two wooden spoons.

So you're a team in finals contention and your average home attendance figures are higher (by all of 500 people) than a team that could still win the wooden spoon and didn't win it's first game until round 10. CONGRATULATIONS! You must be a passionate group of supporters!

And what about last year? We won just one more game than you (because of a kick after the siren btw) and yet your average home attendance was 27,000 and ours was 40,000. What does that tell you? Aside from the fact it was a probably a good ski season.

I was going to politely suggest you head back to your own board - but then I remembered that no one actually posts there do they? Well.. in that case, go and enjoy the Hawthorn board and you might actually find someone else interested in this week's game

 

[True Thylacine]

The difference between Melbourne and Richmond was our skill errors hence turnovers, worst I've seen in months, and the fact that they had a seasoned smart and capable forward in Brad Green. We'll get there.

 

[Hannabal]

So you're a team in finals contention and your average home attendance figures are higher (by all of 500 people) than a team that could still win the wooden spoon and didn't win it's first game until round 10. CONGRATULATIONS! You must be a passionate group of supporters!

And what about last year?

I note that you don't address the facts in my post. We have a significantly lower supporter base than Richmond's yet have a higher average home attendance. But you think that that's quite acceptable. Not only that, you deride Melbourne supporters for not turning up to games LOL. Get a clue, pal.

We've won our last 3 and aren't likely to play finals. Our attendances have nothing to do with a taste of finals.

Btw, I wouldn't talk too much about last year. Unlike us, your home and overall crowds have dropped, despite the excitement surrounding your list and progress.

 

[Rustof]

Our attendances have nothing to do with a taste of finals.

Derp. Pretty sure it does...

 

[Bojangles17]

I note that you don't address the facts in my post. We have a significantly lower supporter base than Richmond's yet have a higher average home attendance. But you think that that's quite acceptable. Not only that, you deride Melbourne supporters for not turning up to games LOL. Get a clue, pal.

We've won our last 3 and aren't likely to play finals. Our attendances have nothing to do with a taste of finals.

Btw, I wouldn't talk too much about last year. Unlike us, your home and overall crowds have dropped, despite the excitement surrounding your list and progress.

I wouldn't expect a complete boofhead to ever look beyond his silly looking face when presenting the case...Our H/A fixtures include just about ea interstate side ADE, Freo, WC, Swans, Port A, in addition to low drawing teams in Melb and NM makes a fair dent on the average. But hey it requires a little analysis prob more than what you could ordinarliy hope to achieve..hope that helps

 

[CoggaRules]

I wouldn't expect a complete boofhead to ever look beyond his silly looking face when presenting the case...Our H/A fixtures include just about ea interstate side ADE, Freo, WC, Swans, Port A, in addition to low drawing teams in Melb and NM makes a fair dent on the average. But hey it requires a little analysis prob more than what you could ordinarliy hope to achieve..hope that helps

you forgot one rocket they get in the game against the pies dude...is it the mothers day game or the queens birthday, where the only game on is at the G against the low drawing pies. It kind of helps point the ave pointer north.