- Apr 29, 2013
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Geez the Saints culture has sucked a lot over time. No excuses.
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Yep. You can't draw a line if it is subjective and I think it would be difficult to qualify what is objectively ok to say.I've always found it ridiculous to try and draw the line on sledging, it's like trying to quantify what's funny.
Makes you pine for the good ol days when you could just come out with any racist, homophobic, sexist s**t you felt like and everyone could have a good laugh at the expense of the victim. Ah memories.But today's culture is to get offended and outraged by anything
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Over correcting the wrongs of the past doesn't make it rightMakes you pine for the good ol days when you could just come out with any racist, homophobic, sexist s**t you felt like and everyone could have a good laugh at the expense of the victim. Ah memories.
No it doesn't but learning from them and preventing them happening again certainly helps.Over correcting the wrongs of the past doesn't make it right
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He could name the player but as the case with nearly all St.Failda players, no one would've heard of them
That's the thing- there is a clear line.
Attacking someone personally for something they have or had no control over isn't 'sledging', that's just verbal abuse.
No different to bogans on public transport yelling at tourists to **** off back to where you came from etc.
Why that level of crap gets called 'sledging' purely because it happened on a footy field and not the 304 bus to frankston, i'll never know.
Having a go at someone for something they do or did have a large degree of control over however- that's fair game.
Noone has much say in their race, health etc so that's why racial crap and abuse about mental health is abuse.
If the person didn't directly control or cause it- it's off limits. (Kids being sick, mental health etc)
A guy like fev for instance with well known gambling history in my book should be able to cop sledges about betting... because he brought that on himself.
But it would be a step too far to 'sledge' him about the mental health and family breakdown etc that resulted from his gambling.
There's the line.
Once the 'sledge' is about something the person had too distant control over- its just abuse.
Cloke comes across as a bit of a precious soft-utensil. It’s a sledge on a sporting field, should be water off a ducks back.
Everyone is very precious these days, it's just the way it is. I have always been more in the camp of what happens on the field stays on the field. If you're offended then you're offended. Nothing happens when you are offended. Just deal with it.
Last time I heard it was in a game against an out gay bloke
Have never seen people turn on a person so quickly.
Being on a footy field doesn’t give you any excuse to say whatever you want
and despite what you claim, a player being paid doesn’t mean they need to put up with being mocked for mental illness
if you need to stoop to that s**t, you’re probably just not a very good footballer
But today's culture is to get offended and outraged by anything
I've always found it ridiculous to try and draw the line on sledging, it's like trying to quantify what's funny.
I've heard some s**t ones in my time from footy nuffies. Up there with "The Shockers", "Wet Toast", "Western Bullfrogs", "Carlton Poos", "Brisbane Cryin", "Geelong Fats", Melbourne Semens"Appreciate the sentiment of this post, even as a saints supporter it’s true (at a guess it could have been a Jack cause we’ve got a shitload of them) but...
St.Failda? That’s awful man. 1 flag in our history and somehow that name seems like a worse effort.
I've heard some s**t ones in my time from footy nuffies. Up there with "The Shockers", "Wet Toast", "Western Bullfrogs", "Carlton Poos", "Brisbane Cryin", "Geelong Fats", Melbourne Semens"
I always thought the 'Aints was a good one.Appreciate the sentiment of this post, even as a saints supporter it’s true (at a guess it could have been a Jack cause we’ve got a shitload of them) but...
St.Failda? That’s awful man. 1 flag in our history and somehow that name seems like a worse effort.
I've heard some s**t ones in my time from footy nuffies. Up there with "The Shockers", "Wet Toast", "Western Bullfrogs", "Carlton Poos", "Brisbane Cryin", "Geelong Fats", Melbourne Semens"
Ah crap, that's one of the most popular ones too!C'mon, you forgot Bullflogs
So if a guy attempted suicide it's ok to say he should finish the job?family, race, religion, sexuality
Rest is fair game
Adelaide Cows is another one that often gets a run.I've heard some s**t ones in my time from footy nuffies. Up there with "The Shockers", "Wet Toast", "Western Bullfrogs", "Carlton Poos", "Brisbane Cryin", "Geelong Fats", Melbourne Semens"
Isn't it possible that people were always offended and outraged - but now they actually have the confidence to express it?But today's culture is to get offended and outraged by anything
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They started that themselves with their own tv commercialAdelaide Cows is another one that often gets a run.