Unsolved The Family Murders

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Nemisis

Norm Smith Medallist
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David Szach ... why is his name being brought up regarding the Family Murders? I believe he was innocent of the Stevenson murder.
 

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squawk

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Pine Needles and Neil Muir

The e book mentioned that Pine needles were found with the remains of Neil Muir's body.

It speculates that the pine needles could have come from a pine tree located in the grounds of the Calvary Hospital in North Adelaide.
The e book also talks about "Colin" being exploited on an autopsy table in a major hospital by a medico with after hours access. This would have to be the RAH. I'm not aware of any pine trees there - plus the mortuary was in the basement there.
Further, it mentions the old quarantine station at Torrens Island. Again, I'm not sure if there were pine trees there or not.
Posters on here have also discussed a possible pine tree in or near to Prince St, Alberton. However, it doesn't seem that the TG house there was in use until a year or two after the death of NM.
Was there a suggestion that there was a pine tree near/at Mr R's house? If so, I don't think the needles came from there either. You'll see why shortly.
I've also wondered if facilities could have been used at the Adelaide University School of Medicine? Again, I'm not about any pine trees nearby there either.


So what other options are there? A veterinary clinic? The Adelaide Zoo - animal treatment facilities? A mortuary at a funeral director's home? Maybe others as well....

Recent research has uncovered the existence of the 'old' City Morgue.
It was at the West Tce cemetery. Forensic autopsies were carried out there until December 1978, when its function was transferred to the new Forensic Science Centre in Divett Place. The new facility included a modern mortuary on the ground floor.

A mere six months after the new building was opened in Divett Place, AB and NM are dead. NM is dissected.
The old city morgue was located just off West Tce, not far south of the buildings at the main entrance. The morgue had its own entrance directly off West Tce.

In the vicinity of the old City Morgue, I found a map showing there are numerous "Aleppo Pine Trees" within the grounds of the cemetery. They are marked as number 11 species on the attached image.

So - what if someone still had access to the 'old' City Morgue, six months after it had closed? Organs could either be buried/dispersed in the cemetery itself, or tissue/organs could have alternatively been disposed of in a hospital or another medical facility? he could have them disposed at his new facility in Divett Place? It would be much easier to carry in a plastic bag with body parts than to bring in a whole body.

It would be easier to dismember a whole body in a place like the old city morgue, than try and get a whole body in to a hospital (or a university or similar) place and then spend hours dismembering it there.

Maybe, NM was taken to the old city morgue (its no more than 10 minutes at most from Millhouse's place in North Adelaide; and 5 minutes from Hindley St or Carrington St, and all of 2 minutes from Chatham St - the first TG house). Then "they" did the dissection. Some of the body was then contaminated by Pine needles at the cemetery - most likely by transfer from the vehicle(s) or a person(s) there as well. Who knows - maybe ML and PS were also cut/dismembered there too?

Images are attached for reference. The morgue and aerial pica are taken around 1975/76; the maps are from a report done in 1988.
 

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GreyCrow

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When trying to work out locations I go for the simplest. How easy and safely can I transport a body xx distance

The safest is to kill and dump close to each other - if that can identify you then your odds of being caught increase

If I am using an old morgue at a cemetery I am not going to the Port river.

I agree from West terrace to Port rd and Victoria rd is most convenient it is still 12kms or more

If you are using old graves etc as organ disposal then why not all of the body?
 

squawk

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When trying to work out locations I go for the simplest. How easy and safely can I transport a body xx distance

The safest is to kill and dump close to each other - if that can identify you then your odds of being caught increase

If I am using an old morgue at a cemetery I am not going to the Port river.

I agree from West terrace to Port rd and Victoria rd is most convenient it is still 12kms or more

If you are using old graves etc as organ disposal then why not all of the body?
All fair assessments there - I don't have all the answers!

Off the cuff - imagine there was a pathologist involved. A medico who could reasonably transport bodies/body parts in a govt issue vehicle? Who may have wanted to put distance between the cutting location and the dump site? Who didn't have time to dig whole graves but could place some parts in the ground?
 

GreyCrow

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All fair assessments there - I don't have all the answers!

Off the cuff - imagine there was a pathologist involved. A medico who could reasonably transport bodies/body parts in a govt issue vehicle? Who may have wanted to put distance between the cutting location and the dump site? Who didn't have time to dig whole graves but could place some parts in the ground?
It wasn't a critique just random thoughts prompted by your post

It's a compelling narrative
 

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