Play Nice The Final Quarter/Australian Dream

[Mick Oxlong]

I come in peace

Have asked in a couple other threads but have gotten no answers.

Where is Adam now? How is he? There’s been nothing about that.

Can’t answer for how he is but I’m sure he’s a very proud new father of a healthy child, living with his lovely wife Natalie in Sydney.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I posted my thoughts about this on the main board, which was probably an error of judgement, but I thought I'd add them here where I would expect more sanity.

Not sure how anyone watches that doco and doesn't feel empathy for a guy who was pretty much run out of town for having the temerity to stand up for himself and his people. It was pretty heart wrenching to be honest.

It will long be remembered as a shameful period in our sport and country.

It was nice to revisit the actual comments that Goodes made about the girl and the care he had for her too.....as they fly in the face of some of the clowns on the main board(and our board) who portrayed him as having tied her to a stake for public execution and ridicule.

Goodes was forever eloquent and composed in the face of those who challenged him.

I've heard that our group were moved to tears when the doco was shown at Waverley, and I believe Wingard, Impey and Burgoyne have since been very strong on never sitting back and letting this sort of thing happen again(like most clubs now - see the condemnation of racist comments on social media earlier this year).

Still, the whole thing is just very sad.....it should never have gone on for as long as it did.


Special mention to Sam Newman, who showed once more what a classless piece of s**t he is.

 

[dustysnecktattoo]

Can’t answer for how he is but I’m sure he’s a very proud new father of a healthy child, living with his lovely wife Natalie in Sydney.

What about post footy career stuff like that as well?

 

[S120]

What about post footy career stuff like that as well?

Looks like he spends most of his time with these two:

GO Foundation (founded with Michael O'loughlin) https://www.gofoundation.org.au/

IDIC (of which he's CEO & Director) http://www.idefcon.com.au/

 

[magic.merkin]

What about post footy career stuff like that as well?

The other doco he participated in may be of interest when it comes out:

The Australian Dream (2019) - The Screen Guide - Screen Australia

The Australian Dream is a theatrical feature documentary that uses the remarkable and inspirational story of AFL legend Adam Goodes as the prism through which to tell a deeper and more powerful story about race, identity and belonging.

www.screenaustralia.gov.au

 

[The Gong]

I posted my thoughts about this on the main board, which was probably an error of judgement, but I thought I'd add them here where I would expect more sanity.

Not sure how anyone watches that doco and doesn't feel empathy for a guy who was pretty much run out of town for having the temerity to stand up for himself and his people. It was pretty heart wrenching to be honest.

It will long be remembered as a shameful period in our sport and country.

It was nice to revisit the actual comments that Goodes made about the girl and the care he had for her too.....as they fly in the face of some of the clowns on the main board(and our board) who portrayed him as having tied her to a stake for public execution and ridicule.

Goodes was forever eloquent and composed in the face of those who challenged him.

I've heard that our group were moved to tears when the doco was shown at Waverley, and I believe Wingard, Impey and Burgoyne have since been very strong on never sitting back and letting this sort of thing happen again(like most clubs now - see the condemnation of racist comments on social media earlier this year).

Still, the whole thing is just very sad.....it should never have gone on for as long as it did.


Special mention to Sam Newman, who showed once more what a classless piece of s**t he is.

You've been a class act, Abasi, despite being a Hawthorn supporter.

 

[The King!]

never considered his hall of fame, should go in a legend

either way isnt he past eligible

 

[S120]

never considered his hall of fame, should go in a legend

either way isnt he past eligible

Eligible next year (5 years after retiring).

 

[The King!]

Eligible next year (5 years after retiring).

Cheers interesting to see what happens

Maybe afl sucking up a bit to avoid him declining

 

[robbieando]

Eligible next year (5 years after retiring).

Should go in directly next year you would expect, but not as a legend. That's a high bar for a modern player to meet even though you would expect that in time he'll be granted that status.

 

[The Gong]

So finally got to sit down and watch the whole thing. Really overwhelmed with sadness about the whole sorry saga. What a disgraceful point in our history.

 

[The King!]

Annoying part is we should be here watching a movie/documentary on the legendary career of our games record holder

 

[sataris]

If anyone should have a number retired it's Goodes.

 

[Nool Carpenna]

If anyone should have a number retired it's Goodes.

Yes. Not so much for the greatness of the player, but for the symbolism of the AFL’s refusal to recognise and treat with due care the player wearing the Sydney 37.

 

[Tedeski]

Not sure how anyone watches that doco and doesn't feel empathy for a guy who was pretty much run out of town for having the temerity to stand up for himself and his people. It was pretty heart wrenching to be honest.

Good stuff Abasi.

The best thing I've noticed about this whole thing is how many people have realised that Goodesy has been an absolute gentleman throughout the whole thing & nothing but kind to the young girl, the opposite of how he was/is being portrayed by his detractors. Once the documentary gets going around the schools of Australia, Sam, Eddie, Bolt, Jones & co will go down as racist legends, not because they made one mistake but because they repeated their mistake over & over again, when more intelligent human beings at the very least would have just shut up when they realised Goodes was hurting.

Oh well, we need people like them in order to appreciate those that have publicly come out in support of Goodesy.
Adam Goodes is perhaps one of the nicest people on the planet, only guilty of defending his people.

 

[Wolfgang West]

I posted my thoughts about this on the main board, which was probably an error of judgement, but I thought I'd add them here where I would expect more sanity.

Not sure how anyone watches that doco and doesn't feel empathy for a guy who was pretty much run out of town for having the temerity to stand up for himself and his people. It was pretty heart wrenching to be honest.

It will long be remembered as a shameful period in our sport and country.

It was nice to revisit the actual comments that Goodes made about the girl and the care he had for her too.....as they fly in the face of some of the clowns on the main board(and our board) who portrayed him as having tied her to a stake for public execution and ridicule.

Goodes was forever eloquent and composed in the face of those who challenged him.

I've heard that our group were moved to tears when the doco was shown at Waverley, and I believe Wingard, Impey and Burgoyne have since been very strong on never sitting back and letting this sort of thing happen again(like most clubs now - see the condemnation of racist comments on social media earlier this year).

Still, the whole thing is just very sad.....it should never have gone on for as long as it did.


Special mention to Sam Newman, who showed once more what a classless piece of s**t he is.

Good stuff Abasi.

The best thing I've noticed about this whole thing is how many people have realised that Goodesy has been an absolute gentleman throughout the whole thing & nothing but kind to the young girl, the opposite of how he was/is being portrayed by his detractors. Once the documentary gets going around the schools of Australia, Sam, Eddie, Bolt, Jones & co will go down as racist legends, not because they made one mistake but because they repeated their mistake over & over again, when more intelligent human beings at the very least would have just shut up when they realised Goodes was hurting.

Oh well, we need people like them in order to appreciate those that have publicly come out in support of Goodesy.
Adam Goodes is perhaps one of the nicest people on the planet, only guilty of defending his people.

Shut up when they realised he was being hurt ? With that you have an explanation to a National Disgrace. A Section of Australia is a nation of Bullys with a ****ing sheep following ******* Mentality. Yes the whole thing had a racist taste to it but soulless insensitive nasty Bullying was the thing that drove it. Mark Robinson maybe a Fat cigarette smoking slob to many in appearance but his stance on the whole thing represented the good in a lot of this country's population, a caring compassionate race that respect and care for their fellow Australian be they Black or White. Make no mistake we have racists in this Country but we have many many more Bullies.

 

[Jimmy Willis Jawline]

There's always going to be that group who blame him for pointing that girl out. I think it's because they don't quite understand why they are mad at him, so they feel perfectly justified defending a young girls right to call him racist things, over his right to defend himself against racism in his workplace.
Australians can be like hyenas sometimes, it takes a very brave person to expose their throat.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Finally got the chance to give it a watch. It provided a good timeline of what was just a very sad sequence of events.

Revisiting it, the fact that the booing and abuse was so evidently affecting Adam to the point where he had to take a leave from football and his mother came out to publicly plead for it to stop, and for it to still continue reveals a rather vicious and disturbing bully mentality that exists within society.

The noticeable thing from the documentary is the pure dishonesty displayed by his detractors in the media which reveals a particularly gross and cynical intent. The frustrating thing about it is that even those people who disagreed with Goodes could have played a positive role in helping people gain a better understanding of the issues he was raising. As Stan Grant said, people like Bolt had role to play in taking a controversial contrarian position that may have existed among sections of society and questioned what Goodes was saying - but still be receptive to the answers and in doing facilitate a substantive discussion around indigenous issues. Adam likely would have welcomed the discussion and the chance to better people's understanding on the subject.

But of course, that's not what happened. The way his detractors in the media framed him was clearly never to disagree with him but discredit him given much of what Jones, Bolt, and Devine did was attack his personal character, pull his words and actions out of context, and present the situation in a manner to make him look as bad as possible. No attempt to have an honest conversation. Say that he deliberately humiliated a 13-year-old girl while assuming the premise that he was able to ascertain her age from a 5-second glance to the crowd while ignoring his subsequent presser where he absolved her of blame and rallied people to support her. Say that his AOTY speech was him being divisive by mentioning 'invasion day' while ignoring the fact that he in the same speech said he came to accept the day as one of celebration. Just to name a few instances, the amount of spin was just astounding.

Hopefully the doco had some impact on affecting a change in attitudes within some people that previously saw Adam in a negative light during this time - that includes people featured negatively in it such as Eddie, I hope that his attitudes will be influenced for the better as a result of this. And if it doesn't affect any change now, at least what he actually said was presented in the actual context so that it can be seen that he conducted himself with a lot of grace and dignity, he took a stand against racism and expressed his culture passionately. That won't be overshadowed with revisionist history.

Proud of what Goodesy did and the work he continues to do post-footy, proud of the way our club supported and stood with him.

 

[SwansProudly]

If you missed it, Final Quarter is on Channel 10 tonight on 10:40 pm EST

 

[Wolfgang West]

If you missed it, Final Quarter is on Channel 10 tonight on 10:40 pm EST

And Andrew Bolt at it again On The Herald Sun Website.

 

[Kapanis]

And Andrew Bolt at it again On The Herald Sun Website.

I know why but how Bolt gets a gig is beyond me WW. I'm not an Waleed fan but what he said on Offsiders this am was spot on, those that watched the doco were in the majority in favour of it/ Goodes/swans etc, those that didn't couldn't care less and won't change their opinions/viewpoint. There are exceptions of course.

 

[Wolfgang West]

I know why but how Bolt gets a gig is beyond me WW. I'm not an Waleed fan but what he said on Offsiders this am was spot on, those that watched the doco were in the majority in favour of it/ Goodes/swans etc, those that didn't couldn't care less and won't change their opinions/viewpoint. There are exceptions of course.

Have to admit I wish the whole thing Would just go away now. By no means do I mean the stance on Racism I just mean the whole Goodes Thing. Enough is Enough. Distressing for him, his family, His friends & The people that acknowledge what an ornament to the game and society that he genuinely is. His detractors will always be there but they don't deserve oxygen. Enough Now.

 

[SwansProudly]

Adam moving on

Adam Goodes: Becoming a father, moving on from football and a new documentary

Becoming a father has had a profound effect on the former Swans star, who is happy to leave football behind and let new documentaries do the talking for him.

www.domain.com.au

Don't care Gillon what you say

'A decision for Adam': AFL boss fears Goodes may be lost to the game

In his first detailed interview on the Adam Goodes documentary since its airing, Gillon McLachlan speaks about the league's failures in its handling of the racism controversies that marred the final years of the dual Brownlow winner's playing career.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Adam moving on

Adam Goodes: Becoming a father, moving on from football and a new documentary

Becoming a father has had a profound effect on the former Swans star, who is happy to leave football behind and let new documentaries do the talking for him.

www.domain.com.au

Don't care Gillon what you say

'A decision for Adam': AFL boss fears Goodes may be lost to the game

In his first detailed interview on the Adam Goodes documentary since its airing, Gillon McLachlan speaks about the league's failures in its handling of the racism controversies that marred the final years of the dual Brownlow winner's playing career.

www.abc.net.au

Thanks SP, I was going to post 2nd article via The Age but couldn’t open it to everyone but you managed to go one better!

Excuse my language by Gil can go * himself! Flog!

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Gil cares about how he & the AFL looks. End of story.

PR in overdrive now... Where were you when the heat was on or the subsequent YEARS after?

Nowhere. Silent. Hoping it would blow away...

I can see straight through your pathetic attempt at damage control & it doesn't change my opinion of you or the AFL 1 little bit Gil.

I believe that when the heat is on a persons true character often comes to the forefront. Courage, empathy, honesty, integrity... All clearly lacking IMO.

Why don't you go change some more rules & pretend to know what you are doing & stop trying to use this as a chance to save face instead of accept blame? (Hint: self interest)