The Fireman Kornes and Ringo Rucci jumbo thread

(Log in to remove this ad.)

ad victoriam

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jan 2, 2016
Posts
6,153
Likes
5,351
Location
Barossa
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
CDFC
from memory, it costs as much to get into a game in the Barossa as it does to get into one in the sanfl
Do not if it changed but they also pay quite a few players more than the SANFL. A big issue as it is Centrals so-called Country zone.
If they want the SANFL to compete once the Crows and Port pull out they need to fix that.
 

Smoooothy

TAKE THAT BACK!!
Joined
Jan 12, 2005
Posts
23,096
Likes
19,639
Location
Brunswick
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
North Adelaide; ConeyIslandWarriors
Do not if it changed but they also pay quite a few players more than the SANFL. A big issue as it is Centrals so-called Country zone.
If they want the SANFL to compete once the Crows and Port pull out they need to fix that.
my old club has approx. $150k for player payments. i'm told that's at the cheaper end of the scale too
 

ad victoriam

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jan 2, 2016
Posts
6,153
Likes
5,351
Location
Barossa
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
CDFC
my old club has approx. $150k for player payments. i'm told that's at the cheaper end of the scale too
One of the clubs I use to watch a bit had a touch more but most went on a few players. plus the sponsored job situation.
Might have to get down and visit them this year, last year there games clashed too much with the AFL, SANFL Crows and Centrals.
 

relapse

Moderator
Joined
Jun 21, 2004
Posts
23,679
Likes
17,310
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
49ers, AFC Wimbledon, Utah Jazz
Moderator #1,706
Do not if it changed but they also pay quite a few players more than the SANFL. A big issue as it is Centrals so-called Country zone.
If they want the SANFL to compete once the Crows and Port pull out they need to fix that.
It's hard because in some cases the club doesn't even pay them because I was told that when Modra was playing for Encounter Bay that one of the local hotels was paying Modra directly for the games he played in exchange for free advertising and promotion by the club.

I imagine that pretty much most country clubs have a fair degree of rorting going on. It will be very hard to crack down on that if that continues to be the case.
 
Last edited:

ad victoriam

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jan 2, 2016
Posts
6,153
Likes
5,351
Location
Barossa
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
CDFC
It's hard because in some cases the club doesn't even pay them because I was told that when Modra was playing for Encounter Bay that one of the local hotels was paying Modra directly for the games he played in exchange for free advertising and promotion by the club.

I imagine that pretty much most country clubs have a free degree of rorting going on. It will be very hard to crack down on that if that continues to be the case.
To me that's the biggest threat to the SANFL.
 

bomberclifford

Importer/Exporter
Joined
Sep 2, 2005
Posts
21,115
Likes
55,762
Location
Cerebral Cortex
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Port Adelaide Magpies
It's hard because in some cases the club doesn't even pay them because I was told that when Modra was playing for Encounter Bay that one of the local hotels was paying Modra directly for the games he played in exchange for free advertising and promotion by the club.

I imagine that pretty much most country clubs have a free degree of rorting going on. It will be very hard to crack down on that if that continues to be the case.
Can confirm. A mate of mine played for a club down that way and was paid in a similar fashion. He was no Modra but the $$ we're talking weren't peanuts either.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Bernie L

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
May 13, 2006
Posts
7,387
Likes
4,633
Location
Sunshine Coast
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Ford Cortina
Here. Mods, please delete if not allowed.

SO much of the SANFL-AFL reserves debate is built on hypocrisy.

“The SANFL is the best State league.” But on Saturday the measure of the competition was downgraded by a Crows SANFL team reliant on non-league standard players called from community football to make up the numbers while Adelaide deals with a heavy injury list.

For those not aware, Adelaide — unlike the traditional SANFL clubs — does not have a reserves or under-age team. It is a “fill-in” team in the State league.

“There is no reason for a national AFL reserves competition.” But on Saturday the Crows — and its AFL colleague in the SANFL, Port Adelaide — gained further reason to become interested in how a national reserves league would operate.

Bigger lists. Greater access to talent that would be drained from the SANFL ranks. Sounder development programs — and results.

“No-one,” it is said by the SANFL purists, “wants the Crows or Power reserves to win the SANFL premiership.” So is it a genuine 10-team competition then?
The SA Football Commission today needs to deal with this hypocrisy to ensure it delays the inevitable progress of a national AFL reserves competition. And the commission need only look west — to the WAFL where West Coast and Fremantle have “alliance” teams in the State league — to start a major rethink on how to structure the SANFL competition with the Crows and Power.

In the west, there is teenager Jason Carter wanting to follow a dream to the AFL. The 18-year-old was identified by WAFL club Claremont in the Tigers’ Kimberley recruiting zone.

AFL club Fremantle — like Port Adelaide — has an academy for indigenous talent and can — unlike the Power — earmark Aboriginal footballers from the “Next Generation Academy” for a priority pick in the AFL national draft.
Fremantle has successfully petitioned the WA Football Commission to advance the consequences of this draft strategy by having Carter transferred from Claremont to the Dockers’ Peel Thunder WAFL unit. Claremont was handed no compensation for having Carter taken from the Tigers’ den to fast-track his development in the Fremantle program.

It is no surprise that Claremont took issue with the WAFC decision. Club president Grant Povey reacted saying: “We hope the decision doesn’t compromise the integrity of the West Australian football pathway.”

The WAFC noted Carter’s pathway to fulfilling his dream to be an AFL player was more relevant than Claremont hanging on to the teenager for just a year.

How would the same script play out in Adelaide? Would the SA Football Commission allow a talented teenager to advance his entry to an AFL program at Alberton or West Lakes or hold the lad to his SANFL club?

The Crows’ line-up in the SANFL Showdown at Alberton on Saturday highlighted the mistake made in not demanding — as Sturt recommended — the Adelaide Football Club have a full investment in the State league with league, reserves and academy teams.

A weak Crows SANFL team devalues the State league.

And it brings on the AFL national reserves competition.
 

Geoffa32

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Posts
42,832
Likes
34,566
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
The Autobots and Team America
Does anyone other than Rucci care.about us not having a SANFL Reserves team?

Most SANFL people I talk to don't care and wod rather us out anyway. Sounds like our club wants out as well. Us leaving the SANFL would benefit both parties.

Make it happen Fages.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

chazwazza

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Posts
7,275
Likes
11,274
Location
Thebarton
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Sturt Football Club
I don’t understand Rucci’s aversion to a Nat Res Comp, surely there’s an angle or agenda he’s working at but with this article he’s just advocating that SANFL clubs and the comp are stuffed around even more. His idea that Adelaide and Port have full SANFL set ups comprises the depth of players for SANFL clubs at a time when there’s an issue with players getting paid more in the country than at an SANFL club working to a miserly salary cap.
If he wants a “full SANFL set up” then surely that should include the same salary caps......but I’m sure he won’t propose that for Port.
What a load of $hit.
 

footy4ever

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 23, 2008
Posts
17,450
Likes
20,715
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Adelaide
I don’t understand Rucci’s aversion to a Nat Res Comp, surely there’s an angle or agenda he’s working at but with this article he’s just advocating that SANFL clubs and the comp are stuffed around even more. His idea that Adelaide and Port have full SANFL set ups comprises the depth of players for SANFL clubs at a time when there’s an issue with players getting paid more in the country than at an SANFL club working to a miserly salary cap.
If he wants a “full SANFL set up” then surely that should include the same salary caps......but I’m sure he won’t propose that for Port.
What a load of $hit.
Well.

Port would go into the national reserves comp, probably being 'forced' to have a team in the SANFL as well (yeah don't ask me how but you know it would happen).

Imagine that. Port having to field an SANFL team on the same conditions as the other SANFL clubs.

Where's the fairness in Port having no advantages of being associated with an AFL team?
 

Geoffa32

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Posts
42,832
Likes
34,566
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
The Autobots and Team America
I don’t understand Rucci’s aversion to a Nat Res Comp, surely there’s an angle or agenda he’s working at but with this article he’s just advocating that SANFL clubs and the comp are stuffed around even more. His idea that Adelaide and Port have full SANFL set ups comprises the depth of players for SANFL clubs at a time when there’s an issue with players getting paid more in the country than at an SANFL club working to a miserly salary cap.
If he wants a “full SANFL set up” then surely that should include the same salary caps......but I’m sure he won’t propose that for Port.
What a load of $hit.
Port need to stay in the SANFL as it earns revenue for them.

No one is going to go to see or pay for a membersbip for a third rate Port SANFL side that has no Power players in it.

Not to mention the pokie and catering revenue they get at Alberton match day.

And they play in the SANFL for free. An AFL Reserves side has additional costs.

Rucci's angle is that an AFL Reserves comp is financially bad for Port.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

Mattrox

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 7, 2012
Posts
16,885
Likes
13,970
AFL Club
Adelaide
I don’t understand Rucci’s aversion to a Nat Res Comp, surely there’s an angle or agenda he’s working at but with this article he’s just advocating that SANFL clubs and the comp are stuffed around even more. His idea that Adelaide and Port have full SANFL set ups comprises the depth of players for SANFL clubs at a time when there’s an issue with players getting paid more in the country than at an SANFL club working to a miserly salary cap.
If he wants a “full SANFL set up” then surely that should include the same salary caps......but I’m sure he won’t propose that for Port.
What a load of $hit.
He doesn't want an AFL reserves comp, because it will drain talent from the SANFL, ultimately killing it. He's banged on about it on 5AA for ages.

On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
 

chazwazza

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Posts
7,275
Likes
11,274
Location
Thebarton
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Sturt Football Club
I don’t see any need or desire for a Port team to be in the SANFL, no one gives a stuff about them anymore so it’s better they leave altogether.

I’m not totally convinced a NRC will be the drain on state leagues that some are saying but it largely depends how the AFL want to structure a NRC and how they perceive and treat state leagues in the future.

If indeed there was a NRC I’d be contacting Sturt and the SANFL suggesting that there be no Adelaide or Port presence in the comp at all. There’s no need for it and it would be tokenism anyway.
 

FR0GGY

Press the button
Joined
Oct 9, 2004
Posts
35,549
Likes
42,627
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
CDFC
I don’t see any need or desire for a Port team to be in the SANFL, no one gives a stuff about them anymore so it’s better they leave altogether.

I’m not totally convinced a NRC will be the drain on state leagues that some are saying but it largely depends how the AFL want to structure a NRC and how they perceive and treat state leagues in the future.

If indeed there was a NRC I’d be contacting Sturt and the SANFL suggesting that there be no Adelaide or Port presence in the comp at all. There’s no need for it and it would be tokenism anyway.
I doubt adelaide would do both, port on the other hand would try, Kochie said as much the other day.
 

subaru

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 14, 2007
Posts
44,028
Likes
22,869
AFL Club
Adelaide
Haha
Port flog rings in pretending to be Crows supporter and asks if Crows trying to get the Roach the sack!

Rucci rounding up "fake " callers to go with "fake " news !
Reap what you sew you stupid knob !

Hope AFC maintain the Rucci lock out !

Five Double doofus - hoping for Dillon and Wildy - instead got Chad's Dad, Roach and the port media stooge .....
Off to Triple M / AFL Nation / SEN I go !!!
 

Doctor B

Club Legend
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Posts
2,330
Likes
5,139
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Glenelg
Rucci and Port supporters don't want the Magpies to become a Port reserves team. They will be worried about the possibility of no more Magpies in the SANFL.

No more Magpies, they will become the Port Power seconds.
No more prison bar guernsey, same recoloured state guernsey that the pear have.
No more cheer cheer the black and the white song just that terrible power to win.
Not playing in the SANFL brings with it, to a certain extent, losing the link back to the Est. 1232 and the premiership records, Fos, the creed etc. etc.
 
Top Bottom