FTA-TV The Flash

[vast]

What? They just make them huge parts of the TV shows, because the are not big deals in the comics. like in the Flash comics Barry has been with Patty and they have not made it a boring story, But they have done stuff with Iris and it hasnt been anything like in the show, its been interesting and part of the story.

As for Batman the years of relationship stuff with Selena, Vicki and Talia dont exist?

When did I say it didnt exist in Batman? I said least focussed on in my opinion.

Your basing it mainly on the comics, in the movies and TV shows in particular. Lois Lane, Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, Pepper Potts etc have all been significant parts of the story.

 

[Oliver King]

Now that was a great ep. Fit so many things into it.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Now that was a great ep. Fit so many things into it.

But conveniently going back in time so none of it happens because Flash can change the future now. I thought that was a bit disappointing.

 

[T2B_]

Geez, just watched it. Was like WTFFFFFF at everything happening so quickly and shockingly. Was quite something.

And yes, Liam McIntyre Guy really grew on me as Spartacus and he really does have a pretty good voice, plus he's a good looking chap (no homo), I don't know why he doesn't get more acting gigs because he doesn't seem to be a mug in that (acting) area either.

 

[floodbuster]

But conveniently going back in time so none of it happens because Flash can change the future now. I thought that was a bit disappointing.

It's a very convenient excuse in all the comics (that and clones), I mean look at days of future past movie...Kitty Pryde can cause Bishop to time travel...

 

[Sydney Bloods]

just started watching this as i've been watching arrow whilst bored at work.

its pacing is weird at times and the writing occasionally falls flat. but its still a good show.
disagree on most peoples assessment of iris, I've only watched as far as season crossover. but she's got great potential to be the whole good girl turned villain thing or the whole push the flash to kill thing. its clear that lab chick is the relationship angle. overall not knowing the DC universe i like look googling the villains when they reveal their names., finding more about it.

I also like how their evolving the characters in this series. compared to arrow in which it seems everyone is throwing their own pity party.

 

[manureid]

Wow... did some double takes at all the 'reveals' in that episode!

 

[Mister Carlton]

just started watching this as i've been watching arrow whilst bored at work.

its pacing is weird at times and the writing occasionally falls flat. but its still a good show.

Villain of the week gets very repetitive. Gotham is the same in that regard.

 

[floodbuster]

Villain of the week gets very repetitive. Gotham is the same in that regard.

Gotham is a different beast because they are restrained by what happens in the future, but also consider Arrow is in it's third season and in the beginning had lots of mysteries, what they need is a long threat that brings them to the brink that continues over many episodes like season 2.

 

[aussiedude]

The SFX was lacking this week, like with all the stuff with Glider. But the story seems to be moving on, Barry now suspects Wells. and i thought the stuff with Cisco's family was boring. Next week looks good with the Tricksters.

 

[floodbuster]

Well that explained the whole Iris thing of last week...Good ol timeline.

Now the question is, is this the beginning of the flashpoint paradox or has Barry learnt his lesson?

 

[aussiedude]

Well that explained the whole Iris thing of last week...Good ol timeline.

Now the question is, is this the beginning of the flashpoint paradox or has Barry learnt his lesson?

The flashpoint paradox is all about going back too far and the ripple effect from saving his mum, This is just normal time travel that The Flash does from time to time. And he wont do much damage when Wells has been killing people just to protect himself or Barry.

Also if anyone is interested into reading the Flashpoint series or the tie in issues they are on special at comixology this week.

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

As somebody too lazy to keep up with weekly issues and the like is there some sort of massive compendium/graphic novel of Flash comics? I've always wanted to get into comics (mostly Batman and The Flash but the constant rehashes, reboots and alternate timelines w/e really put me off), how bad is Flash in terms of these?

 

[floodbuster]

The flashpoint paradox is all about going back too far and the ripple effect from saving his mum, This is just normal time travel that The Flash does from time to time. And he wont do much damage when Wells has been killing people just to protect himself or Barry.

Also if anyone is interested into reading the Flashpoint series or the tie in issues they are on special at comixology this week.

That is an interesting point you make about Wells killing people and changing history all the time, shouldn't it lead to this?

But in all seriousness if someone's personality can change with a shift in the timeline then what I meant is could Barry finding out about Wells change him to the point that he does go back in time and cause flashpoint?

 

[aussiedude]

That is an interesting point you make about Wells killing people and changing history all the time, shouldn't it lead to this?
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But in all seriousness if someone's personality can change with a shift in the timeline then what I meant is could Barry finding out about Wells change him to the point that he does go back in time and cause flashpoint?

I dont think wells cares about changing the timeline [otherwise its bad writing] or he has done it all before. He just wants Barry to make it to the future so he can use the speedforce to get back to his time.

 

[aussiedude]

As somebody too lazy to keep up with weekly issues and the like is there some sort of massive compendium/graphic novel of Flash comics? I've always wanted to get into comics (mostly Batman and The Flash but the constant rehashes, reboots and alternate timelines w/e really put me off), how bad is Flash in terms of these?

With not wanting to get weekly issues [only event series are weekly, most comics are monthly] then look for tradebacks which collect 6-7 issues and put them in a book. They are about $20-$25 for softcover, and about $35-$40 for HC in Australia. But you can go digital if you want where they are about $13-$18 depending on how many issues are in the volume, and sometimes will go on special for $5 like they did about 2-3 weeks ago for a Flash 75th anniversary sale. This year they could release some huge books that will cost like $100 like they did for batmans 75th anniversary last year. that collect the best of a writer/artist or age in comics.

With the Flash in the n52 he didnt time travel until about issue #37 [Today issue 40 was released], but did get "Stuck" in the speed force at one stage. When they do a "soft reboot" they can ignore some or most of the stuff they didnt like and go back to a flash who has only been a hero for a few years. or when ever they want. But there are not any alt timelines right now that i can think of. Flash is an easy reading order right now, Batman is a different story, the first 2 year long arcs were back to back, the 3rd year long arc called Zero Year was back to when Bruce first came back to gotham and the start of Batman [a new look on year one, but more focused on a villain]

I could recommend you some great comics to read but first you will need to decide if you want digital or hard copy.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Another good ep with some interesting developments, really liking how changing something in the timeline can alter the future/a different timeline.

That scene with Cisco and Wells was really well done (in contrast to last week's ep). Really liking the Rogues too, will be interesting to see where they take them in future eps/seasons.

The only thing I was a bit unsure about was how Barry suddenly put 2 and 2 together (re that reporter's disappearance and Wells' involvement) and went to tell Joe he suspects Wells.

I mean I know he knew the reporter suspected Wells but did he have any other reason to suspect him (other than a few hints/tidbits from Joe and Cisco - unless I missed something?)

 

[Special Agent Utah]

With not wanting to get weekly issues [only event series are weekly, most comics are monthly] then look for tradebacks which collect 6-7 issues and put them in a book. They are about $20-$25 for softcover, and about $35-$40 for HC in Australia. But you can go digital if you want where they are about $13-$18 depending on how many issues are in the volume, and sometimes will go on special for $5 like they did about 2-3 weeks ago for a Flash 75th anniversary sale. This year they could release some huge books that will cost like $100 like they did for batmans 75th anniversary last year. that collect the best of a writer/artist or age in comics.

With the Flash in the n52 he didnt time travel until about issue #37 [Today issue 40 was released], but did get "Stuck" in the speed force at one stage. When they do a "soft reboot" they can ignore some or most of the stuff they didnt like and go back to a flash who has only been a hero for a few years. or when ever they want. But there are not any alt timelines right now that i can think of. Flash is an easy reading order right now, Batman is a different story, the first 2 year long arcs were back to back, the 3rd year long arc called Zero Year was back to when Bruce first came back to gotham and the start of Batman [a new look on year one, but more focused on a villain]

I could recommend you some great comics to read but first you will need to decide if you want digital or hard copy.

Hard copy all the way.

I wanna get into purchasing some comics.. Wheres the best spot to buy and start with your batman, arrow, flash etc?

 

[Caesar]

The only thing I was a bit unsure about was how Barry suddenly put 2 and 2 together (re that reporter's disappearance and Wells' involvement) and went to tell Joe he suspects Wells.

I mean I know he knew the reporter suspected Wells but did he have any other reason to suspect him (other than a few hints/tidbits from Joe and Cisco - unless I missed something?)

That other guy went missing (the dodgy businessman) when he figured out Barry's identity, and Wells was implicated. I just assumed Barry figured once was a coincidence, twice was definitely suspicious.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

That other guy went missing (the dodgy businessman) when he figured out Barry's identity, and Wells was implicated. I just assumed Barry figured once was a coincidence, twice was definitely suspicious.

Oh yeah! Forgot about that guy haha.

Yep, that makes more sense now - just thought it would be a bit of a stretch for Barry to go from having so much respect for Wells (where he defended him to others) to suddenly being extremely wary of him on the basis of the news reporter going missing.

 

[aussiedude]

Hard copy all the way.

I wanna get into purchasing some comics.. Wheres the best spot to buy and start with your batman, arrow, flash etc?

Flash i would start with Rebirth then go onto Road flashpoint to and Flashpoint and New 52 flash [The first 3 Vols are great, Vol 4 was alright and Vol 5 im enjoying] The Forever Evil Rouges Rebellion was one of my favorite of the Forever Evil tie ins [I loved the Justice League United tie-ins with Stargirl and Jon Jonzz], It is all bout the Rouges teaming up again to protect Central City. Takes place after Vol 3 of the Flash IIRC

Batman the entire New 52 Batman i have loved [Court of Owls, Death of a Family, Zero Year]. Other classics would be Year One and Dark Knight Returns from Frank Miller.
Death in the Family and Under the Red Hood are great dark stories, Batman Hush and Long Halloween are also must reads. Dark Mirror is good if you want a DickBat story
Tower of Bable is a nice 4 issue story between Batman/Justice League and Ra's
Batman Eternal is good, it is a year long weekly story that ends next week that takes place after Forever Evil more of a detective comics style, and features the whole Batfamily and new faces including first appearances in N52 by some. Vol 1 collects the first 21 issues but costs about $50-$60 or $30 USD +shipping if you import, Vol 2 comes out in july and collects 22-34

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

I'm wondering how he can go back in time by going fast? I'm talking relativity here, so time would slow down for him but not for everyone else. Therefore, time would seem to have gone forward for him once he's stopped. In fact that would be a good send up of The Flash, every time he runs to a crime the relativity effect means he gets there long after its over. The ultimate irony of his superpower. Sorry I'm nerding out here.

 

[floodbuster]

I'm wondering how he can go back in time by going fast? I'm talking relativity here, so time would slow down for him but not for everyone else. Therefore, time would seem to have gone forward for him once he's stopped. In fact that would be a good send up of The Flash, every time he runs to a crime the relativity effect means he gets there long after its over. The ultimate irony of his superpower. Sorry I'm nerding out here.

It's not so much about him running really fast that causes the temporal disruption but that in his emotional state he taps the "speed force" that causes the effect to trigger. In one of the comics he had a treadmill that he used to time travel and Wally West used a "speed mirage" to make RF think he had gone back in time to get him as a baby and used RF's "distress" at thinking Wally would get him as a baby to go back in time.

Geez, don't you know anything about time travel in comics?


I can't believe I'm saying this.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Geez, don't you know anything about time travel in comics?

Nope, I admit I don't. This is "superhero science" you're talking about, not actual science.

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

I could recommend you some great comics to read but first you will need to decide if you want digital or hard copy.

Thanks for your help mate.

As much as I'd like to get into the hard copies, I just can't warrant shelling out for something I'm likely to ever read once and they seem to go fairly quickly. I remember reading Killing Joke in a matter of minutes.

What can you recommend in terms of digital versions? Mostly looking to get into Flash, Batman and Spiderman.

Wonder how major a part Grodd will play in season 2 with CW's limited resources to VFX. He's meant to be one of Flash's major nemesis' right?