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This Harrison Wells bloke. There's something suss there. He said something about "reverse" before. He's not, is he?

Also Jesse L Martin is an absolute boss.

Don't spoil it for yourself if you aren't up with the DC lore.
 
Hey yeah, and what's up with this guy that can run at supersonic speed? Seems a bit unrealistic.
My question was within the reality of the show and not questioning the realism of it and was therefore relevant. #QED
Haha, I remember when I started watching this show (and Arrow for that matter) thinking "Surely they can recognise a face through a mask"
Flash moves his face superfast whenever anyone can see it.
 
My question was within the reality of the show and not questioning the realism of it and was therefore relevant. #QED
Okay, so why doesn't Flash inflict massive internal injuries from G-force when he catches people and then decelerates them at extreme speed?

The show doesn't bear thinking about too much, on any level. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
 

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I am somewhat convinced that Barry of Earth 2 is either their world's Reverse-Flash or Zoom, given Jay Garrick is the Flash there.

A big deal has been made about all of the meta's coming to Earth 1 to kill their counterparts, so it would make sense as to why Zoom/Reverse-Flash would come across to try and kill Barry. Linda Park is a classic example; she was an innocent civilian on Earth 1, but on Earth 2 she was the evil Dr. Light.

If the alternate Barry, for example, didn't have the support structures of Joe taking him in after his mother's death, and being able to grow up with Iris (like Barry of Earth 1), you could imagine Barry would have grown up to be a very twisted individual - after all he did witness the death of his mother.

Nothing has been said about who Barry is on Earth 2 or whether he was affected by the particle accelerator there, and I think that's the reason why. Would be an interesting twist if true, and one I wouldn't mind.
 
I am somewhat convinced that Barry of Earth 2 is either their world's Reverse-Flash or Zoom, given Jay Garrick is the Flash there.

A big deal has been made about all of the meta's coming to Earth 1 to kill their counterparts, so it would make sense as to why Zoom/Reverse-Flash would come across to try and kill Barry. Linda Park is a classic example; she was an innocent civilian on Earth 1, but on Earth 2 she was the evil Dr. Light.

If the alternate Barry, for example, didn't have the support structures of Joe taking him in after his mother's death, and being able to grow up with Iris (like Barry of Earth 1), you could imagine Barry would have grown up to be a very twisted individual - after all he did witness the death of his mother.

Nothing has been said about who Barry is on Earth 2 or whether he was affected by the particle accelerator there, and I think that's the reason why. Would be an interesting twist if true, and one I wouldn't mind.

Barry's family might be alive and fine on earth 2, if Garrick is the flash there then Barry is not the flash so reverse flash would have no reason to try and kill Barry or his Mum
 
Barry's family might be alive and fine on earth 2, if Garrick is the flash there then Barry is not the flash so reverse flash would have no reason to try and kill Barry or his Mum

Not sure if it's possible, but my logic exists around the theory that when Eobard Thawne (Wells) went back and killed Barry's mum it changed existing timelines of multiple Earths, not just Earth 1. The science behind time travel is there are infinite alternate timelines, which was explained early on in season 2 by Dr. Stein in that, for example, Joe could have distinctly different jobs across all of those worlds compared to him being a detective on Earth 1. Not sure if the effects of the changing timelines could affect other Earths or just Earth 1, but if not it debunks my theory.

The other thing going against Barry being Zoom is the fact that he is much more built physically than Barry, which leads me to my next theory that...

Eddie Thawne could somehow reappear given he was sucked into the wormhole after he shot himself at the end of S1. Surely the writers did that as they had something in mind for him down the track. Could he be the one to return in the form of Zoom?
 

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I love Hamill as the Trickster but just wish he didnt use his Joker voice for the roll. its also written and acted more like the Joker at times the the Trickster

Glad to know Breaking Bad exists in this universe.

The intro of Wally on screen was like "Hi im Wally, im an addict"
I think i know where the Wally stuff is going and it will be annoying.

Big "Meh" on the cliffhanger. Harry will hide it, someone will findout what Zoom wants and Harry is helping him, They will have a teenage girl fight and make up, team up again and beat zoom.

Yeah i knew they would make Wally a dick, and an angry teen not wanting his family's help.

Dick Wells is amazing. knocking Cisco's shit over and then doing it again just to piss him off.

Eobard Thorne is back. and it
seems like its the Eobard that later became Wells so not an earth 2 Reverse Flash
 
Thought this episode was one steaming pile of horse shit.

Way too much of CW's forced relationships, Cisco and Caitlyn plucking that 2/10ths of a second theory out of thin air, Wally West and his dindunuffin attitude the entire episode and just shitty pacing in general.

I just hope Patty is out for good. One less forced relationship to deal with.
 
I for one am glad Patty is gone after all she caught her Dad's killer so why be a cop anymore :rolleyes:

Good to see RF back and I still think Zoom has something to do with Eddie Thorne, this whole I'm going to take everything from the flash sounds like getting him back for winning over Iris.
 
Kind of a meh return but can't expect every episode to be massive. Hopefully won't go down the soapy side with all the romance and family stuff in this ep haha.
 

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