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My name is Barry Allen and I am the dumbest man alive. I thought giving the bad guy my powers would save my friend, instead I just made us all helpless. With help from my friends at star labs I can try to undo my dumb decisions. I am an idiot.
 
My name is Barry Allen and I am the dumbest man alive. I thought giving the bad guy my powers would save my friend, instead I just made us all helpless. With help from my friends at star labs I can try to undo my dumb decisions. I am an idiot.
Clearly you do let read the comic books
That is straight out of one of the encounters with grodd

Barry, in any carnation, has always been over trusting, pretty much the polar opposite of Bruce Wayne

It's also allowing them to allow Caitlin to become killer frost, and Cisco as vibe

By season 4, it will be Barry out on his own
 

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Clearly you do let read the comic books
That is straight out of one of the encounters with grodd

Barry, in any carnation, has always been over trusting, pretty much the polar opposite of Bruce Wayne

It's also allowing them to allow Caitlin to become killer frost, and Cisco as vibe

By season 4, it will be Barry out on his own
no i dont read the comics.and i get the whole he is too trusting thing but they have done the whole no powers a few times now. why when zoom let go of wally he didnt just attack him
 
They won't make Caitlin into Killer Frost.

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Killer frost, like captain cold, has never been truly evil villain, far more anti-hero

no i dont read the comics.and i get the whole he is too trusting thing but they have done the whole no powers a few times now. why when zoom let go of wally he didnt just attack him

Confidence
They've set it up the entire season (since the first flash v zoom encounter)
 
so they explained that the breach is now always open, so thats how Zoom could move between the 2 worlds lastweek.

I think they will create the situation the same as the particle accelerator for Barry and have it much like in Flashpoint. but i dont think they will have all the failed attempts, just 1 failed one and a successful one.

EDIT: that looks like what they are doing in the promo for nextweek, a contained blast with lightning, and would end up having the chemicals there somewhere.
 
I hope the bloke in the mask is the real Jay Garrick. Was pretty pissed off that they pretty much threw away that character.
 

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I hope the bloke in the mask is the real Jay Garrick. Was pretty pissed off that they pretty much threw away that character.
The producer on Twitter I saw said they love and respect Jay Garrick so hopefully they don't burn him. Would be shit if next season was another rinse repeat with another Earth's Garrick coming over played by Teddy Sears.
 
The producer on Twitter I saw said they love and respect Jay Garrick so hopefully they don't burn him. Would be shit if next season was another rinse repeat with another Earth's Garrick coming over played by Teddy Sears.
yeah he said that because one of the writers of the flash comics was trashing the show for ****ing up his character. im sure they have something in mind to appease the nerds
 
yeah he said that because one of the writers of the flash comics was trashing the show for ******* up his character. im sure they have something in mind to appease the nerds
Was reading this as you replied

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/the-flash-recap-season-2-episode-19-back-to-normal-1201760487/

Is Jay Garrick gone for good?

Now that we know Hunter Zolomon is really who we thought Jay Garrick was all this time, what about the real Jay? Did he exist or just a figment of Zolomon’s insanity? Kreisberg didn’t want to spoil much but did say, “I think the answer to that question will be answered down the line. I think it’s worth not talking about.”
 

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Hopefully Grodd is the villain in season 3 after his stint on Earth 2.

Still think the man in the iron mask is Jay. Hand colour doesn't look dark enough to be a doppelganger of Wally and why would they bother rehashing Eddie?

Zoom's "You wouldn't believe me" a few eps back hints to this as well.
 
I think this season has been a victim of crappy structure. Between flogging LOT/Arrow, and all these midseason breaks, it's been hard to build up a solid stretch of episodes dealing with the main season arc. Makes it feel very disjointed and sluggish.

It probably hasn't helped that the writers have mostly limited Zoom's screen time in order to keep him mysterious. Last season they revealed Wells to the audience as the bad guy pretty early, and after that he was pretty much a constant presence - it kept things interesting.

Hopefully they mix things up a bit next season. If they do yet another evil speedster with a secret, it's going to be a bit boring.
 
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I think this season has been a victim of crappy structure. Between flogging LOT/Arrow, and all these midseason breaks, it's been hard to build up a solid stretch of episodes dealing with the main season arc. Makes it feel very disjointed and sluggish.

It probably hasn't helped that the writers have mostly limited Zoom's screen time in order to keep him mysterious. Last season they revealed Wells to the audience as the bad guy pretty early, and after that he was pretty much a constant presence - it kept things interesting.

Hopefully they mix things up a bit next season. If they do yet another evil speedster with a secret, it's going to be a bit boring.
What do we have to go by, with the comics
 

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