Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[Watchyourwaite]

I don't think we really know enough about the universe yet for either side to go around calling the other lazy buzz words like moron etc.

Yes, yes we do. I explained this before. Ignorance of knowledge is not the same as fact.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Yes entertain. But then dismiss as stupidity.
Flat earthers are ******* idiots. - Abraham Lincoln

Bang on I thought about it and then I laughed and felt sorry for those who truly believe that even slightly there is a chance that the earth is anything but a globe.

 

[darthbards]

Bang on I thought about it and then I laughed and felt sorry for those who truly believe that even slightly there is a chance that the earth is anything but a globe.

How come?

 

[darthbards]

Yes, yes we do. I explained this before. Ignorance of knowledge is not the same as fact.

No,no we don't. Your explanations included things like crack open a physics book that only relates to what we currently know and you patronising me by saying I wasn't smart enough or couldn't grasp the books complexities.
Off the top of my head we don't know all that much about quantum physics,dark matter or dark energy and we haven't even travelled very far into the surface of our own planet. And what is our planet expanding into?
A lot of our knowledge is based on assumptions,which is not fact.
You seem to think the knowledge we currently understand is in fact everything and I'd deem that as ignorance. We have much to still learn,and we certainly won't be learning it with closed minds and thinking there is no further knowledge left for us to acquire.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

No,no we don't. Your explanations included things like crack open a physics book that only relates to what we currently know and you patronising me by saying I wasn't smart enough or couldn't grasp the books complexities.

You cant seem to grasp the complexities, nothing patronizing about it.

Off the top of my head we don't know all that much about quantum physics

You dont know anything about it. Again, you are offering up ignorance as some form of evidence.

A lot of our knowledge is based on assumptions,which is not fact.

Most of it is based on hypothesis that we verify by testing, and then try to disprove.

You seem to think the knowledge we currently understand is in fact everything

I definitely dont think that.
Im just saying that you trying to put out that there is as much evidence for a flat earth as there is for an oblate spheroid earth.

We have much to still learn,and we certainly won't be learning it with closed minds and thinking there is no further knowledge left for us to acquire.

Open minds are great, fantastic! We wouldnt have our current life without them.

But an open mind that just regurgitates other peoples thoughts, without developing anything or testing or doing anything with it but regurgitating, well thats just a waste of time.

 

[darthbards]

You cant seem to grasp the complexities, nothing patronizing about it.

You dont know anything about it. Again, you are offering up ignorance as some form of evidence.


Most of it is based on hypothesis that we verify by testing, and then try to disprove.


I definitely dont think that.
Im just saying that you trying to put out that there is as much evidence for a flat earth as there is for an oblate spheroid earth.


Open minds are great, fantastic! We wouldnt have our current life without them.

But an open mind that just regurgitates other peoples thoughts, without developing anything or testing or doing anything with it but regurgitating, well thats just a waste of time.

But your just regurgitating physics books that only outline what we currently know,your doing the same thing your being critical of.
What is dark matter?
What is dark energy?
What is the universe expanding into?
Hypothesis are not facts.
We also don't know how far down sub atomic particles may actually go.
What is inside a graviton? What is a graviton outside hypothesis?

 

[Heisenberg_]

How come?

Because that's the facts.
Your theories are that of a madman.
It makes people pushing that flat earth theory look sensible.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

But your just regurgitating physics books that only outline what we currently know,your doing the same thing your being critical of.

No, you are regurgitating questions. I am relying on evidence and scientific fact.
Huge difference between someone overhearing someone at the pub talk about the G spot being behind the ear, then that person repeating it to others. Compared to reading, understanding and explaining a book on basic physics.

What is dark matter?

Still unsure but we aren't just giving it a label and asking a question, we are looking for answers.
We know that it exists, because testing under different conditions it gives the same results each time.

What is dark energy?

Again, its another name used to work with while looking deeper into trying to understand what it is. Looking for answers. Not saying that its a thought, therefore it is an answer.

What is the universe expanding into?

Again, these a questions that we are trying to find answers to. The opposite of just giving an answer by saying it must be a simulation or that it proves the earth is flat.

Hypothesis are not facts.

Yeah, most people know that.

We also don't know how far down sub atomic particles may actually go.

Which is why we are still researching, testing, verifying, looking for answers.

What is inside a graviton?

Currently the best explanation for gravitation force.

What is a graviton outside hypothesis?

Its the best explanation currently for what is behind the force, and it is being tested and researched.

But these are just questions that you haven't ever tried to look up, or you have and its been too confusing.
Your not interested in the answers, you just use them because you think evidence of not understanding or knowing something is proof of a flat earth or a simulation.

Ignorance is not evidence!!!!

 

[darthbards]

No, you are regurgitating questions. I am relying on evidence and scientific fact.
Huge difference between someone overhearing someone at the pub talk about the G spot being behind the ear, then that person repeating it to others. Compared to reading, understanding and explaining a book on basic physics.

Still unsure but we aren't just giving it a label and asking a question, we are looking for answers.
We know that it exists, because testing under different conditions it gives the same results each time.

Again, its another name used to work with while looking deeper into trying to understand what it is. Looking for answers. Not saying that its a thought, therefore it is an answer.


Again, these a questions that we are trying to find answers to. The opposite of just giving an answer by saying it must be a simulation or that it proves the earth is flat.



Yeah, most people know that.

Which is why we are still researching, testing, verifying, looking for answers.

Currently the best explanation for gravitation force.
Its the best explanation currently for what is behind the force, and it is being tested and researched.

But these are just questions that you haven't ever tried to look up, or you have and its been too confusing.
Your not interested in the answers, you just use them because you think evidence of not understanding or knowing something is proof of a flat earth or a simulation.

Ignorance is not evidence!!!!

Sounds like some of these physics books that are to complicated for me to comprehend that I need to crack open are missing quite a few pages then.
And I'm not saying the universe is a simulation I'm saying it could be which may turn the whole round/globe earth theory on its head as well as some of these scientific studies we think we might understand.

 

[darthbards]

Because that's the facts.
Your theories are that of a madman.
It makes people pushing that flat earth theory look sensible.

The theory is actually being studied by many respected physicists,you are aware of that?
I think there are still a fair few facts yet to be unveiled regarding both our planet and the universe we belong to.
I'd consider someone who believes we know everything and discounts things yet to be proven one way or the other a bit of a madman themselves

 

[Heisenberg_]

And I'm not saying the universe is a simulation I'm saying it could be which may turn the whole round/globe earth theory on its head.

It can't be

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Sounds like some of these physics books that are to complicated for me to comprehend that I need to crack open are missing quite a few pages then.
And I'm not saying the universe is a simulation I'm saying it could be which may turn the whole round/globe earth theory on its head.

Yeah, the universe could also be a fleck of dust on the end of your dick. That would turn everything on its head.

It means nothing though. Thats what you need to understand.

Universe is a simulation isnt too hard to grasp. FFS there have been movies made about it.
But unless you start testing and verifying it, it doesnt ever change from being a drunk conversation.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

The theory is actually being studied by many respected physicists,you are aware of that?

Name and link to there studies please. You keep saying it so you should have it all readily available.

I think there are still a fair few facts yet to be unveiled regarding both our planet and the universe we belong to.

No shit, thats why we still have scientists.

I'd consider someone who believes we know everything and discounts things yet to be proven one way or the other a bit of a madman themselves

No one is saying we know everything.

Your the one saying that youve read about this simulated universe, and have put value in it.

 

[darthbards]

It can't be

How come?

 

[darthbards]

Name and link to there studies please. You keep saying it so you should have it all readily available.


No shit, thats why we still have scientists.


No one is saying we know everything.

Your the one saying that youve read about this simulated universe, and have put value in it.

Just google it and you'll see it's being studied.
What's with all the insults to make yourself more intelligent,why would I be hearing this down the local pub? And why even mention my penis at all?
You seem to agree we still have things to study and learn but you seem to have boundaries on what it is we will learn or discover.
Sounds like you don't agree with the theory which is fine,but we know very little outside hypothesis and guess work that proves it isn't possible,or that
The universe is actually what we currently imagine. I'd consider that itself a fact.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Just google it and you'll see it's being studied.
What's with all the insults to make yourself more intelligent,why would I be hearing this down the local pub? And why even mention my penis at all?
You seem to agree we still have things to study and learn but you seem to have boundaries on what it is we will learn or discover.
Sounds like you don't agree with the theory which is fine,but we know very little outside hypothesis and guess work that proves it isn't possible,or that
The universe is actually what we currently imagine. I'd consider that itself a fact.

I dont believe that my post could have confused you this much. You are definitely trolling.

 

[darthbards]

I dont believe that my post could have confused you this much. You are definitely trolling.

Yeap,I'm interested in the theory of simulation because I think it would be a great way to troll people

So,you have now called me a troll twice,said I'm not intelligent enough to read a physics book,said the book is to complicated for me to comprehend anyway,even though I've stated all the areas it itself is only theory and hypothesis,you have claimed I'm only aware of the theory because I heard it down the pub,you have mentioned my penis in relation to one of your arguments,but yes,it's me who should be accused of being a troll

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Yeap,I'm interested in the theory of simulation because I think it would be a great way to troll people

So,you have now called me a troll twice,said I'm not intelligent enough to read a physics book,said the book is to complicated for me to comprehend anyway,even though I've stated all the areas it itself is only theory and hypothesis,you have claimed I'm only aware of the theory because I heard it down the pub,you have mentioned my penis in relation to one of your arguments,but yes,it's me who should be accused of being a troll

Didnt think youd admit it. Well done.

 

[darthbards]

Didnt think youd admit it. Well done.

You have also failed to properly explain outside of theory or hypothesis what dark matter is,what dark energy is,what the universe that the round earth belongs to is expanding into,what's inside a graviton let alone what a graviton actually is.
Yet you are happy to openly dismiss the theory that the earth is flat inside a simulation because you are hanging onto the theory it's a round globe in a ever expanding universe,created from a Big Bang because some incomplete book tells you that's how it is and the facts are close enough.
Maybe your the troll as far as I can see.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

You have also failed to properly explain outside of theory or hypothesis what dark matter is,what dark energy is,what the universe that the round earth belongs to is expanding into,what's inside a graviton let alone what a graviton actually is.
Yet you are happy to openly dismiss the theory that the earth is flat inside a simulation because you are hanging onto the theory it's a round globe in a ever expanding universe,created from a Big Bang because some incomplete book tells you that's how it is and the facts are close enough.
Maybe your the troll as far as I can see.

You just made a heap of that up.

And **** me, sorry i havent properly explained outside of a theory what dark energy is. What does that prove to you?

You keep talking about quantum physics, but what do you actually know about the subject? Other than that its confusing and you dont understand it?

 

[darthbards]

You just made a heap of that up.

And **** me, sorry i havent properly explained outside of a theory what dark energy is. What does that prove to you?

You keep talking about quantum physics, but what do you actually know about the subject? Other than that its confusing and you dont understand it?

Mate,if you understand it so well answer some of the questions I've put forward. Your the one saying how much smarter you are and how well you understand everything and quickly dismissing alternate theories outside your unproven belief system and happily calling others confused.
Saying I don't know but I know it exists isn't a proper answer. Saying currently the best explanation is, is not a proper explanation.
I'm not dismissing your round earth theory nor am I insulting,patronising or questioning your intellect. You on the other hand are choosing that as a fair form of debate so answer the questions properly or concede both theories are indeed possible.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Mate,if you understand it so well answer some of the questions I've put forward. Your the one saying how much smarter you are and how well you understand everything and quickly dismissing alternate theories outside your unproven belief system and happily calling others confused.
Saying I don't know but I know it exists isn't a proper answer. Saying currently the best explanation is, is not a proper explanation.
I'm not dismissing your round earth theory nor am I insulting,patronising or questioning your intellect. You on the other hand are choosing that as a fair form of debate so answer the questions properly or concede both theories are indeed possible.

Everything is possible. But giving equal weight to something that has some evidence or has been proven, with something that is nothing more than a musing, is wrong.

 

[katana]

It's not remotely the same.
People believe that we live on a globe shaped planet because we ******* well do, so much proof of this fact as opposed to the delusional ramblings of a complete moron that has somehow sucked in incredibly naive people into thinking it's a possibility.

listen to how triggered you are, keep the ad hominems out of my thread. have you ever seen any of this "so much proof"?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Im looking at a coal ship on the edge of the horizon should I be worried?

 

[cannot]

... the earth isnt a globe.

... even slightly there is a chance that the earth is anything but a globe.

you two may want to have a time out and a rethink