Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[Thrawn]

It's the only response appropriate to this.

I'd love to see Pumba's take on it.

 

[darth_timon]

I'd love to see Pumba's take on it.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/board-rules.1047789/



i believe in forum rules and the rules state it is up to the globe heads to proof the earth is a fast moving pear like thing that is rotating wobbling and such in an endless space

you must prove this and in 90 pages you have failed

do surveyors take into account the curve of the earth when workin big jobs?

further more there is no need for such personal attacks of the following nature "your opinions are ignorance wrapped up in". the question at hand was the lack of evidence in regards to the soceity of jesus invention, the big bang theory and does require such attacks of a personal nature

This is your conspiracy theory, and you need to try and prove that it's more than that.

Memes, pictures and "but the ground looks flat to me" aren't evidence of a flat earth.

 

[Thrawn]

they do apparently, from a fancy telescope

but its an optical illusion?

 

[cannot]

#Thrawn with the top banter as per usual

Has it occurred to you (in between your snide remarks) that the reason no one is able to properly answer the question of why this conspiracy exists is not because it's beyond our understanding, but because there is no conspiracy?

properly

validity

again its amusing you consider yourself important enough , to be the one which dictates what theories , elite would lie to you are are passable and whats not

almost as funny as alluding too itd be too expensive or time consuming to be worth the effort

i am personally a fan of vatican related theories and i think some of those could fit the bill as to your question quite well

i will say it again - CAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHY YOU WOULD BE LIED TO, IS NO FORM OF DEBUNKING,

you will have to try harder

This is your conspiracy theory, and you need to try and prove that it's more than that.

Memes, pictures and "but the ground looks flat to me" aren't evidence of a flat earth.

something looking flat, is evidence of something being flat. from any level, including 120000feet up

like if you drink something that burns your tonuge that is evidence of the beverage being hot

due to the 'home team rules' of this subforum the burden is on the globeheads to prove the fast moving pear earth. sadly there has been little thusfar

 

[cannot]

I'd love to see Pumba's take on it.

he knew it was all jesuit bullshit

hence the little pun:

But the Manhattan Project wasn't a secret that could be kept relatively easily. Despite there being 130,000 odd workers involved in the project, only a few dozen men in the US knew the full meaning of the Manhattan Project, and perhaps only a thousand others even were aware that work on atoms was involved. While, most of those working on the project had no idea what their work involved, those that did were subject to the heaviest security and censorship. And the Soviets knew about the Manhattan Project possibly as early as 1943. Soviet spy, Klaus Fuchs for example, was one of those known to be involved. He worked at Los Alamos from August 1944 and was present at the first ever detonation of a nuclear weapon 'Trinity' on July 16th 1945.

bloody hell thats what is being said professor

only the top know the whole picture,

try and keep up

 

[Roylion]

bloody hell thats what is being said professor

You said (and I quote) that "the Manhattan project along with numerous other historical events prove secrets can be keep relatively easily."

The Manhattan Project was NOT a secret that was kept "relatively easily". The only reason that the Manhattan Project was kept relatively secret at all was because of security measures were taken to unprecedented heights. Sites were geographically isolated. Each site had multiple security checkpoints that were guarded by military police twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. In addition, tall barbed-wire fencing surrounded each site's perimeter, preventing any intruders from gaining unwanted access to key buildings and deterring any employee from clandestinely sneaking out (perhaps with classified documents). Each worker at the Manhattan Project underwent a rigorous background check conducted by the FBI to ensure that he or she had no criminal history or suspicious connections with Axis sympathizers. Mail coming in and going out of Los Alamos was meticulously censored. Security officials would inspect each and every individual piece of mail, making sure that any information regarding a site's location, work activity, or technical details was removed. In some cases, military officials would follow up with civilians whose letters contained something unusually suspicious, such as coded puzzles or words. Congressional leaders agreed to secret budget processes for the Project with no legislative oversight. There were separate organizations created to carry out intelligence, counterintelligence, and surveillance programs both domestically and overseas. These operated outside of regular military channels, kept separate records, and reported directly to the Project leader General Leslie R. Groves. No one could travel from one site to another without the general's permission.

Also key to that was the fact that very few Americans knew about what the Project was about in the first place.

And even with all this, the Soviets knew about the Manhattan Project anyway with Soviet spies working at Los Alamos from August 1944 (a full eleven months before the first nuclear weapon was detonated). Possibly as early as 1943.

And there was a clear and logical reason to keep the Manhattan Project as secret as possible from the Axis Powers.

To use the Manhattan Project as an example of how the FE theory can also be kept secret "relatively easily" is a false analogy. The FE "conspiracy" would include many governments from a number of different political and economic ideologies, tens of thousands of civilian pilots (post-war) and/or GPS manufacturers (1960s), hundreds of thousands of people in every telecommunications industry, at least hundreds of thousands of people in the southern hemisphere (the difference between the currently-accepted globe and Flat Earth map are so large below the equator that they would be difficult to ignore) and anyone using an odometer on a trip between any four landmarks. Also included in the conspiracy are thousands of soldiers supposedly keeping ordinary citizens from witnessing the "impenetrable" Ice Wall in Antarctica, which supposedly surrounds the Flat Earth.

And that's not to mention the "why". The Manhattan Project had a clear "why" in the attempts to keep it secret.

 

[cannot]

in the same way that only a few men at the top have the whole picture in the bomb making scenarios its would be similar in fe where not everyone involved would have the entire picture

as said 15+ times because you cannot work out 'why' TPTB wouldnt have secrets is in no way proof of their non existence

much of the theories of secret societies involve them influencing govs. regardless of different political and economic ideologies

the implication that its too big a secret to be kept or too hard is itself piss poor debunking attempt by the globe heads - and clearly wrong as the modern fe movement is large and growing

its seems the two latest trains of thoughts are 1) its would be too expensive and hard, 2) there is no proper reason to pretend the earth is a different shape. i was genuinely hoping for something more than this weak efforts

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

something looking flat, is evidence of something being flat. from any level, including 120000feet up

like if you drink something that burns your tonuge that is evidence of the beverage being hot

due to the 'home team rules' of this subforum the burden is on the globeheads to prove the fast moving pear earth. sadly there has been little thusfar

This is where your argument continually falls apart.

Oh look, evidence of the flat earth...




Oh, hang on a minute.




You fail to have a basic level of understanding of both scale and physics when you harp on about "when I walk to the shops, it doesn't feel like I am walking on a globe traveling around a sun at speed.....now look at this meme!".

 

[cannot]

you are the one that said you FEEL like you live on a fast movin globe

oh i can see the curve now

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

you are the one that said you FEEL like you live on a fast movin globe

oh i can see the curve now

Where have I ever said that?

We don't feel it, apart from gravity, that's the entire point and why it is apparent that you really can't grasp the thinking at all.

 

[cannot]

 

[darthbards]

Heh, darth_timon has the perfect avatar for his responses. A perpetual perplexed, confuzzled look.

And darthbards, do those other two people in your avatar believe in a flat Earth too (I'm assuming they're family)?

You might wnat to get your eyes checked or do better research before going with the insults,the pictures Lin Jong,you know....the footballer.

 

[cannot]

dam good footballer too

"I haven't taken this position just to be difficult. To look around, the world does appear to be flat, so I think it is incumbent on others to prove decisively that it isn't. And I don't think that burden of proof has been met yet."

 

[Watchyourwaite]

like if you drink something that burns your tonuge that is evidence of the beverage being hot

Room temperature hydrochloric acid.

 

[darthbards]

This is where your argument continually falls apart.

Oh look, evidence of the flat earth...

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Oh, hang on a minute.

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You fail to have a basic level of understanding of both scale and physics when you harp on about "when I walk to the shops, it doesn't feel like I am walking on a globe traveling around a sun at speed.....now look at this meme!".

Any unedited pictures of the whole earth as was requested about 50 pages ago?

 

[cannot]

Room temperature hydrochloric acid.

the point being we should by and large trust our eyes and brain on most matters

it it looks flat

and it feels still

then the burden of proof is on the globeheads

there are of course exceptions like project blue beam,

 

[darthbards]

Where have I ever said that?

We don't feel it, apart from gravity, that's the entire point and why it is apparent that you really can't grasp the thinking at all.

You meant to say the theory of gravity yeah,or have we finally discovered proof.

 

[cannot]

You meant to say the theory of gravity yeah,or have we finally discovered proof.

he feels magik gravity

no doubt the next comment will be "drop your keyboard, did it smash?"

they sometimes then say if you look down (after you jump, in the air) you can feel yourself coming back to earth, and that is proof of gravity. it must be confusing when they trust their eyes, and when they do not

maybe they email jesuit scientists for confirmation

 

[darthbards]

he feels magik gravity

no doubt the next comment will be "drop your keyboard, did it smash?"

they sometimes then say if you look down (after you jump, in the air) you can feel yourself coming back to earth, and that is proof of gravity. it must be confusing when they trust their eyes, and when they do not

maybe they email jesuit scientists for confirmation

I honestly don't think the round heads have done much study at all on FE theory,and have failed to grasp any of the explanations given over nearly 90 pages now. Their petrified what they have learnt could be very wrong indeed.

They even requested I carry out jumping,dropping and throwing experiments already,which I kindly did. Surprise,surprise everything came back down to earth as would be expected
But we still don't know why? Maybe magic gravity,but as explained maybe UA,maybe a repulsion from a parallel world or universe or maybe something completely different mimicking the effects of what we think is any of the things above.

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

Any unedited pictures of the whole earth as was requested about 50 pages ago?

Here are 2 unedited photos of the Earth from space, directly from NASA themselves, 1 from on the Moons surface, and 1 from the far side -

Draw your own conclusions

 

[Watchyourwaite]

the point being we should by and large trust our eyes and brain on most matters

it it looks flat

and it feels still

then the burden of proof is on the globeheads

there are of course exceptions like project blue beam,

The point actually being, that if your not sure you should try to ascertain the facts via other methods.
Going to drink something that you think is water because it looks like water. Why don't you give it a quick smell?
No sense of smell, grab a pH indicator strip and dip it in. You can now be sure if it is water or hydrochloric acid thanks to the scientific method for creating theories that are then simplified and made available for simpletons to work out the basics.

If you are on a train and it doesnt feel like its traveling at 100km/h would you jump off it? Or would you suddenly become aware that you can't feel a constant velocity, but you can feel acceleration?

Looking at a human you can't see the large intestine. But do you accept that there is enough evidence that nearly every person you will meet will have one? Or do you you need to be able to look at each persons large intestine before you accept it is true?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

dam good footballer too

"I haven't taken this position just to be difficult. To look around, the world does appear to be flat, so I think it is incumbent on others to prove decisively that it isn't. And I don't think that burden of proof has been met yet."

LOL

 

[darthbards]

The point actually being, that if your not sure you should try to ascertain the facts via other methods.
Going to drink something that you think is water because it looks like water. Why don't you give it a quick smell?
No sense of smell, grab a pH indicator strip and dip it in. You can now be sure if it is water or hydrochloric acid thanks to the scientific method for creating theories that are then simplified and made available for simpletons to work out the basics.

If you are on a train and it doesnt feel like its traveling at 100km/h would you jump off it? Or would you suddenly become aware that you can't feel a constant velocity, but you can feel acceleration?

Looking at a human you can't see the large intestine. But do you accept that there is enough evidence that nearly every person you will meet will have one? Or do you you need to be able to look at each persons large intestine before you accept it is true?

I think your missing the bigger picture while making your point which is sound in isolation.
-we understand the human body and the elements and compounds we know of reasonably well,there isn't really any disputing this.
-our knowledge of our planet and the human mind is reasonably poor.
-our knowledge of our universe is pretty much non existent,outside the fact we know it's there.

Originally popular belief was the earth is flat,then round. Scientific research is very much starting to show it could be flat again. We are certainly in a transaction faze,so it's understandable that some round ball believers are going to hang onto their round ball beliefs at this point in time.
Both the round and flat models presented on this thread have major flaws,I think any sensible person could agree with that.

In twenty years time,we will be teaching the flat earth models in school. Not by human teachers, which will be a huge improvement and we will benefit from that greatly.
How much it differs to the model being presented here we will have to wait and see.

 

[Roylion]

In twenty years time,we will be teaching the flat earth models in school. Not by human teachers.....

No we won't.