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[exe ex machina]

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

 

[Procrastinator35]

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

Pamela Anderson's breasts.

 

[Total Power]

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

Adelaide Football Club.

 

[darth_timon]

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

There's nothing remotely concrete. Hence the vagueness of other, less developed theories.

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[Nothing]

I love watching SpaceX launches. Especially like watching the rocket hit the dome and come bouncing back to earth.

http://www.spacex.com/webcast

 

[Present Not Past]

Okay then Flat-Earthers. How do you explain with a flat Earth:
The differing seasons.
The Sun at different angles in the sky throughout the year.
And an oldie but a goodie - the phases of the moon.

 

[katana]

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

well the burden of proof is on those making a claim. so anyone who thinks that mass by virtue of its mass alone draws other mass towards it (with no actual explanation as to why) ought to have the burden of proof squarely on them. no one can provide 'proof' against anything, that's a moronic concept and anyone with a days philosophical training could explain why. another issue is that when people see and apple fall to the ground they think that this is proof of gravity because of that fable we are all told in school about newton. the problem is that this effects people's ability to understand what gravity is or would be or how they could fathom it in their own lives. if we say that 'things fall down' and then drop 10 things to prove that they do, we haven't proven the cause as to why they're falling down. do you follow? under the model of gravity is impossible to ever remove oneself from the earth's gravity and actually test it. now if people want to believe that there are these guys floating around in space outside of gravity, then fine. but i don't believe that ******ed bullshit.

anyway my thoughts on gravity begin with the gravitational constant and the origin of how that figure was calculated originally. it sounds like a load of shit to me and the whole gravity story comes falling down when you remove it.

 

[Total Power]

well the burden of proof is on those making a claim. so anyone who thinks that mass by virtue of its mass alone draws other mass towards it (with no actual explanation as to why) ought to have the burden of proof squarely on them. no one can provide 'proof' against anything, that's a moronic concept and anyone with a days philosophical training could explain why. another issue is that when people see and apple fall to the ground they think that this is proof of gravity because of that fable we are all told in school about newton. the problem is that this effects people's ability to understand what gravity is or would be or how they could fathom it in their own lives. if we say that 'things fall down' and then drop 10 things to prove that they do, we haven't proven the cause as to why they're falling down. do you follow? under the model of gravity is impossible to ever remove oneself from the earth's gravity and actually test it. now if people want to believe that there are these guys floating around in space outside of gravity, then fine. but i don't believe that ******ed bullshit.

anyway my thoughts on gravity begin with the gravitational constant and the origin of how that figure was calculated originally. it sounds like a load of shit to me and the whole gravity story comes falling down when you remove it.

So you are going to ignore the observation of gravitational waves? Einstein predicted gravitational waves in 1916, it was just a prediction then. He said GW exists under his model but cannot be observed. These have been observed for the first time in 2015 in 2 separate experiments.

An apple falling from the tree is not what gravity is, its a property of gravity. Light with has photons only and have no mass will be affected the same way as objects do, under the same principle. Light is thus bent by gravitation forces too. We have observed these phenomena and there is enough evidence out there to conclude that Einstein was right in his predictions of his TGR. Now there are thousands of experiments concluding photons react the same way masses do under TGR.

Quantum entanglement=Gravity, as two bodies approach each other, their particles are entangled and attracted to each other, forming a molecular bond or gravity. The closer they are, the more particles become entangled on a quantum level. The laws of gravity are entangled with the laws of quantum physics.

Wikipedia:

Quantum entanglement occurs when particles such as photons, electrons, molecules as large as buckyballs,[1][2] and even small diamonds[3][4] interact physically and then become separated; the type of interaction is such that each resulting member of a pair is properly described by the same quantum mechanical description (state), which is indefinite in terms of important factors such as position,[5] momentum, spin, polarization, etc.


There is too much proof out there to say gravity doesn't exist.

However there is nothing fullproof in science and it has falsifications. Yet gravity is the best we got, UA doesnt explain anything. Gravity is not just up and down though.

 

[exe ex machina]

In this video, proof the earth is not a globe.
The GoFast rocket launch, which had on-board cameras, when it reached low earth orbit, there's a shot of the moon showing. Which as the guy goes on to explain with time-and-date proofs of the day of the launch, that the moon was on the other side of the globe (over Australia) at the time of launch in Nevada, so the moon should not be visible, hence flat earth.

 

[Total Power]

In this video, proof the earth is not a globe.
The GoFast rocket launch, which had on-board cameras, when it reached low earth orbit, there's a shot of the moon showing. Which as the guy goes on to explain with time-and-date proofs of the day of the launch, that the moon was on the other side of the globe (over Australia) at the time of launch in Nevada, so the moon should not be visible, hence flat earth.

LMAO what? the curvature of the earth is painfully clear in the video and i just watched the first 2 minutes.

 

[exe ex machina]

LMAO what? the curvature of the earth is painfully clear in the video and i just watched the first 2 minutes.

It's fish eyed. But ignoring that....the moon shouldn't be visible if the earth is a globe, and the moon is on the other side of the globe. Instead, what we see is the moon circling above the plain of the fish-eyed earth.

 

[exe ex machina]

How about you watch the video thru so you actually understand the point? The point being further along in the video. He's not talking about the curvature. He's talking about the moon, showing, when it should not be.

Moon over Australia....rocket launches into space above Nevada.....Australia and the USA are on opposite sides of a globed earth, so the moon should be BEHIND the globe of the earth....if the earth was a globe....instead....it's showing right there, and doing its circular route, like it would do on a flat earth model.

 

[Total Power]

It's fish eyed. But ignoring that....the moon shouldn't be visible if the earth is a globe, and the moon is on the other side of the globe. Instead, what we see is the moon circling above the plain of the fish-eyed earth.

LOL come on mate, its not fish eyed while taking off but it became fish eyed in space?

 

[Total Power]

How about you watch the video thru so you actually understand the point? The point being further along in the video. He's not talking about the curvature. He's talking about the moon, showing, when it should not be.

Moon over Australia....rocket launches into space above Nevada.....Australia and the USA are on opposite sides of a globed earth, so the moon should be BEHIND the globe of the earth....if the earth was a globe....instead....it's showing right there, and doing its circular route, like it would do on a flat earth model.

What point do you want me to understand? the moon? sorry the point was flat earth, your own video clearly showed a round earth and then you said its fish eyed. How can it be fish eyed when it comes to the view of earth from space but nothing else?

 

[Total Power]

How about you watch the video thru so you actually understand the point? The point being further along in the video. He's not talking about the curvature. He's talking about the moon, showing, when it should not be.

Moon over Australia....rocket launches into space above Nevada.....Australia and the USA are on opposite sides of a globed earth, so the moon should be BEHIND the globe of the earth....if the earth was a globe....instead....it's showing right there, and doing its circular route, like it would do on a flat earth model.

I'll bite.

if you know what a hemisphere is, then you will know that from any two points on a hemisphere, a bright object situated at a great distance away above the center of that hemisphere, such as the moon or sun, will be visible from both of those points - simultaneously - because the two sightlines from those two points to that object will be almost parralel to each other. Picture a tennis ball and a marble about 1.5 meters apart on the floor. This is the actual correct planet size and scaled distance from the Earth to the moon. Now picture looking down at the tennis ball (earth) from above (the North pole). Visualize two points on the tennis ball. Situate those two points similar to where two clock hands that indicate 4 o'clock would be. Still looking from above the tennis ball, have the minute hand (oz) at 12 o'clock pointing at the marble (moon). Have the hour hand (Nevada) pointing to where it would be if it were 4 o'clock. You will see that the hour hand pointing at 4 oclock is not on the other side of the tennis ball, it is more to the side than opposite to the 12 o'clock. The marble will be out of sight to the 4 o'clock position. But if you were to rise directly up off the surface of the tennis ball, like this rocket shot up from the surface of the Earth, eventually the marble (moon) will pop into view. So in the conventional Earth moon model, the presence of the moon near the horizon in this video checks out. In this case, Nevada and Australia are at 115 degrees to each other, or at 4 o'clock to each other. So they are not just within the same hemisphere, but WELL within the same hemisphere.

 

[Nothing]

I'll bite.

if you know what a hemisphere is, then you will know that from any two points on a hemisphere, a bright object situated at a great distance away above the center of that hemisphere, such as the moon or sun, will be visible from both of those points - simultaneously - because the two sightlines from those two points to that object will be almost parralel to each other. Picture a tennis ball and a marble about 1.5 meters apart on the floor. This is the actual correct planet size and scaled distance from the Earth to the moon. Now picture looking down at the tennis ball (earth) from above (the North pole). Visualize two points on the tennis ball. Situate those two points similar to where two clock hands that indicate 4 o'clock would be. Still looking from above the tennis ball, have the minute hand (oz) at 12 o'clock pointing at the marble (moon). Have the hour hand (Nevada) pointing to where it would be if it were 4 o'clock. You will see that the hour hand pointing at 4 oclock is not on the other side of the tennis ball, it is more to the side than opposite to the 12 o'clock. The marble will be out of sight to the 4 o'clock position. But if you were to rise directly up off the surface of the tennis ball, like this rocket shot up from the surface of the Earth, eventually the marble (moon) will pop into view. So in the conventional Earth moon model, the presence of the moon near the horizon in this video checks out. In this case, Nevada and Australia are at 115 degrees to each other, or at 4 o'clock to each other. So they are not just within the same hemisphere, but WELL within the same hemisphere.

But maths is hard.

 

[Heisenberg_]

How predictable the camera shows the earth to be clearly what it is and shows up the conspiracy nutters to be just that, so they pull out the old fish eyed lense angle again rather then the obvious reality the earth is not flat.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

i'm back, bitches

and i can't believe this rubbish is STILL going on

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Okay then Flat-Earthers. How do you explain with a flat Earth:
The differing seasons.
The Sun at different angles in the sky throughout the year.
And an oldie but a goodie - the phases of the moon.

at least atheists and theists alike can come together in harmony and take the proverbial out of the flat-earth nutters

 

[darthbards]

They know once gravity crumbles the whole premise crumbles.

Gravity has its holes like the big bang, they know it some here know it.

Can anyone challenge it? ...nope.

What is exactly the proof against gravity?

And globeites fail to recognise the fact we are spending billions of dollars to find this elusive gravity,whole institutions and teams of people dedicated to this very cause....surprisingly still no luck, besides those fraudulent tweets of course.

 

[Total Power]

at least atheists and theists alike can come together in harmony and take the proverbial out of the flat-earth nutters

hahaha apparently flat earthers have "questions" that needs "answering"

 

[Present Not Past]

In this video, proof the earth is not a globe.
The GoFast rocket launch, which had on-board cameras, when it reached low earth orbit, there's a shot of the moon showing. Which as the guy goes on to explain with time-and-date proofs of the day of the launch, that the moon was on the other side of the globe (over Australia) at the time of launch in Nevada, so the moon should not be visible, hence flat earth.

OMG - I just watched this video and couldn't stop laughing.
This guy doesn't even understand something as basic as that the Moon is roughly 380 000 km from Earth.
It isn't hiding on the other of the Earth like in his stupid solar system graphic.
Unbelievable

 

[exe ex machina]

OMG - I just watched this video and couldn't stop laughing.
This guy doesn't even understand something as basic as that the Moon is roughly 380 000 km from Earth.
It isn't hiding on the other of the Earth like in his stupid solar system graphic.
Unbelievable

Laughs all round then, cos I'm laughing at you now.

This is a close-up of a basketball relative to what a camera 73 miles up would see the earth as. Can't even take in all it's enormity, it's round shape.

So, if the moon was on the other side of a globe, even 120,000 miles away, you still wouldn't be able to see it. It'd be blocked by the enormity of the earth blocking your view. And the moon is really tiny compared to the size of the earth as well, just to make it even more impossible to see.

 

[exe ex machina]

Remember, on the globe, Australia is directly opposite where America is. Look at an actual spinning globe. If you're a camera 73 miles up, you'd have the same view of America as you would of that basketball, with Australia all the way around on the other side. The moon at the time of that launch was right above Australia, and the rocket that launched was right above America.

Camera 73 miles up, blocked completely by the 24,000 mile circumference of the earth, such that anything directly behind the globe cannot be seen.

Try this for instance....

Go put your nose up against your 40" TV set and try to see anything behind it, you can't. Even if something was 10 feet, 50 feet, 100 feet away. You still can't.

 

[Present Not Past]

Laughs all round then, cos I'm laughing at you now.

This is a close-up of a basketball relative to what a camera 73 miles up would see the earth as. Can't even take in all it's enormity, it's round shape.

So, if the moon was on the other side of a globe, even 120,000 miles away, you still wouldn't be able to see it. It'd be blocked by the enormity of the earth blocking your view. And the moon is really tiny compared to the size of the earth as well, just to make it even more impossible to see.


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Then why don't you turn the camera around and stop pointing it down.