The future

[yaco55]

If Gary Ablett does a career ending injury - ie Hirds foot injury then I cant see Gold coast winning the flag. they will be competitive. will make finals in the near future, but need to keep all their stars to go all the way. Plus need to continue to recruit well as wont have concessions anymore. The other thing is the coach - is Guy McKenna capable of taking this team all the way. Generally with new teams their first coach doesn't take them to a premiership. This will lead to more player movement. Plus go home factor, which has already resulted in the loss of caddy.

With GWS they have received way too many concessions. Or have been really smart and extracted the wealth of the draft by trading off unused picks and getting further up the draft. They also have the go home factor...but Sydney is also an attractive place to live - see Buddy/tippet, when GWS are closer to a flag im sure players will want to go there too, hell they got mumford and shaw this year. Their future drafting is pretty much assured as they should get some decent draft picks in return for their top 20 picked kids with development that get traded due to not being best 22 or having a surplus of that type, as a number of clubs will be vying for their services see adams.. And Rhys Palmer will not last much longer at that club. I would say GWS will play finals next year, they could even give it a shake this year, however I expect them to fade out at the end of the year. If they can front load contracts of the young guns, it will put them in good stead of keeping team together.

Have to disagree about GWS. They made the cardinal mistake of giving up O'Meara and Martin to the prime competitor GC. This was a shocking piece of list management.

 

[Yoda_]

They were also given access to basically everyone in the state leagues, out of contract players, as well as the mini draft.

As far as I can remember
Adelaide (Crouch, Brown)
GC (Martin, O'Meara)
Richmond (Morris, traded down to Ellis)
Hawthorn (Boumann, Anderson and scraps),
Melbourne (Hogan, Barry, picks),
Collingwood (Elliott, Clarke),
Port (Picks for Cornes and Brogan)
Saints (Milera, Saad, Lee)
all traded with GWS, and all got significant returns. It's not the other club's fault that the AFL gave them so many tradable resources to work with in the first place

How many of these were actually traded away for players?

[By the way, you forgot John Ceglar (Collingwood) who is now at Hawthorn]

 

[Whispering_Jack]

The posts discuss total domination - It doesn't give a time frame - I am trying to give context to the argument - Anyway the rest can worry about this CERTAIN dominance by GC and GWS.

Well, I think finishing minor premiers in 91 and making the grand final in just their 6th season and following up with two flags in 92 and 94 would be very comparable to what people are discussing here with the expansion teams. That's pretty dominant for a new team having been in the comp for only 9 years.

 

[daffo]

GWS could overtake GC this year. They are scary.

 

[Zach Package]

How many of these were actually traded away for players?

[By the way, you forgot John Ceglar (Collingwood) who is now at Hawthorn]

none as far as I can remember, unless you count Phil Davis, who was signed as an out of contract player, but who was in effect traded to GWS along with a first rounder for Brad Crouch

 

[Yoda_]

none as far as I can remember, unless you count Phil Davis, who was signed as an out of contract player, but who was in effect traded to GWS along with a first rounder for Brad Crouch

Blame the AFL all you want but the clubs were stupid enough to give away picks, and some very high picks at that.

As someone suggested, perhaps the AFL should have forced clubs to part with players for those players/picks.

No one else but the clubs can be blamed for that

 

[EBCantona]

They have a while to reach 16 at least