Strategy The future...

[go_the_dockers]

I'd love to see Matera in purple, he can clearly play but there seems to be something missing. Application maybe?

Anyone know David Swallows contract situation?

2017 I am pretty sure.

 

[Ausbenito]

Would only take Matera as a rookie would like to serious a very serious 3 year contract thrown at Omeara give him every chance to come good and reach his full potential worth the punt especially as we have luckily dodged bullets in the past Cloke and Clarke spring to mind.

 

[Lach72]

O'Meara's knee is rooted

 

[wayToGo_]

As much as I like some of the GC guys. The last thing we need is more guys with injury issues.

 

[beetz]

As much as I like some of the GC guys. The last thing we need is more guys with injury issues.

Agreed, not interested in Swallow or O'Meara unless we got them for nothing which won't happen.

 

[Scatter]

Is anyone else realizing it was a good thing we didn't trade away a future #1 pick in last years trade period?
It's looking likely to be a top 5 pick at worst, but it's trade value was probably #10 to #15 as most expected us to still make the 8 at least.

 

[beetz]

Is anyone else realizing it was a good thing we didn't trade away a future #1 pick in last years trade period?
It's looking likely to be a top 5 pick at worst, but it's trade value was probably #10 to #15 as most expected us to still make the 8 at least.

I think it has only been mentioned 36-37 times

 

[Scatter]

Oops, I have been reading selectively this season, hadn't seen it mentioned

 

[beetz]

Oops, I have been reading selectively this season, hadn't seen it mentioned

All good. If this was 10 years ago we would be reading "Freo gave up their 1st rounders and Michael Walters."

 

[free at last]

O'Meara's knee is rooted

You gotta feel JOM....Are his knees that rooted?

 

[G Mus]

You gotta feel JOM....Are his knees that rooted?

Tendon damage not ligament. He will come good just needs time

 

[free at last]

Jeez,our list must be such head **** for our management.Our age groups are all over the place.It's definitely going to be an interesting renovation of our current playing group.

 

[Dump Truck]

Tendon damage not ligament. He will come good just needs time

Was Omeara a Freo fan as a kid? Would be a massive get but he'd not come cheap. Hogan should be our main priority for the next 2 years. Throw whatever it is we need to get him without being idiotic. If we want to be a high scoring team we need a forward capable of scoring 5+ goals every game. We have Walters and Fyfe in that mould. Pav is a loyal servant but just hasn't got the legs these days, he could probably do it once or twice in a season now. Tabs and Apeness aren't yet proven and Ballas has stalled a bit. And then there's Mayne... He hasn't ever had a 5 goal game.

Hogan and Macarthy should be our priorities. If we get both and get Balics injury worries right then we really only have to worry about our ruck stocks and our KPP for defence. If we can 100% promise Macarthy and Hogan or Hogan then we should get Petroskvi-whatever his name is in the draft. If we can't promise Hogan we need another forward. Macarthy will be the best second forward in the comp, but would struggle on the best defenders I reckon.

I would seriously be telling Melbourne that our first round pick this year and next year is there's, as is whoever they want bar our non-negotiables. He is the one we can structure our forward line around. We don't want Fyfe playing forward half of his career because we don't have a forward line. A midfield of Fyfe, Neale, Bennell, Weller, Mundy, Hill, Blakely, Tucker and the promise of Balic and Sheridan looks promising. Add a potent forward line and a backline to build around A.Pearce and Dawson and I think we'd be alright. However having a gold class midfield kicking to Apeness and Tabs is a lot different then kicking to Hogan and Macarthy. That's the reality of our rebuild.

 

[beetz]

I thought the ruling was that you can't give away future picks two years in a row?

 

[free at last]

Taylor

 

[beetz]

Taylor

It's ok, ill save the trouble and google myself. Will revert.

 

[Dump Truck]

I thought the ruling was that you can't give away future picks two years in a row?

I thought it was you just needed to have one first round pick in 3 years? Possibly we've stuffed it then.

 

[free at last]

It's ok, ill save the trouble and google myself. Will revert.

Just googled it.Clubs are required to make 2 first round picks over a 4 year period.

 

[Dump Truck]

So that means we need to make two by 2018? We've essentially cornered ourselves then. Hogan won't come for anything but pick #1 or #2 and a player. We will effectively need to somehow trade for a first round pick for the next 2 years or risk being fined a massive amount and have ramifications against us.

 

[wayToGo_]

And then there's Mayne... He hasn't ever had a 5 goal game.

Neither has Walters from memory... Just saying

 

[manpurple]

So that means we need to make two by 2018? We've essentially cornered ourselves then. Hogan won't come for anything but pick #1 or #2 and a player. We will effectively need to somehow trade for a first round pick for the next 2 years or risk being fined a massive amount and have ramifications against us.

Nope it just means that we will actually have to play the trade game for a change.

To get Hogan we will be trading players. If we were to take a mid as a first round pick would you trade a Neale for Hogan. It would have to be a serious consideration. I would anticipate that Melbourne would want to top that up with another player or a round 2 pick next year.
Otherwise you would have to trade a top 5 pick plus a good player for a late first round pick and Hogan.
You might be able to trade out Clarke for an early round 2 selection. Which might be enough to sweeten a deal.
In any case I would anticipate that we will try to secure two first round picks and use one to trade with.

 

[PurpleReign95]

Call me crazy but this is my idea for the future

The following trades and free agency deals have to occur

Firstly we trade Lachie Neale to the crows for the 2016 1st round pick and the 2017 1st round pick of the crows (these will probably be around P10-14)
We also let Chris Mayne and Zac Clarke go in FA (if anyone offers) id predict we will get a 2nd round for Mayne and 3rd round for clarke at best

In the 2016 trade period we send our 1 round pick to GWS for Lobb and McCarthy, leaving us with the crows first pick as our first pick
In 2017 we trade both 1st round picks, ours and adelaides to melbourne for Hogan

All of a sudden 2017 is

B:Spurr Collins Sutcliffe
HB:Highes Pearce Langdon
C: Bennell Blakey Hill
HF: McCarthy Lobb Weller
F: Ballaz Hogan Sunny
R: Sandi Fyfe Mundy
Int: Barlow, Croz, Daws, Suban

And im talk premierships then BABY

 

[wayToGo_]

Call me crazy but this is my idea for the future

The following trades and free agency deals have to occur

Firstly we trade Lachie Neale to the crows for the 2016 1st round pick and the 2017 1st round pick of the crows (these will probably be around P10-14)
We also let Chris Mayne and Zac Clarke go in FA (if anyone offers) id predict we will get a 2nd round for Mayne and 3rd round for clarke at best

In the 2016 trade period we send our 1 round pick to GWS for Lobb and McCarthy, leaving us with the crows first pick as our first pick
In 2017 we trade both 1st round picks, ours and adelaides to melbourne for Hogan

All of a sudden 2017 is

B:Spurr Collins Sutcliffe
HB:Highes Pearce Langdon
C: Bennell Blakey Hill
HF: McCarthy Lobb Weller
F: Ballaz Hogan Sunny
R: Sandi Fyfe Mundy
Int: Barlow, Croz, Daws, Suban

And im talk premierships then BABY

Like the enthusiasm but we can't trade that many 1st round picks in a row -> "Clubs must make at least two first-round selections in each four-year period"

If we want a chance at Hogan we need to use our first round pick in the draft this year, and I definitely think we should. That then frees us up to use either our 2017 or 2018 first rounder for Hogan. Pretty sure we can't use both because we used our first last year on Bennell (we possibly made a strategic mistake there as we might have been better packaging other picks for points instead, freeing us up to use another first rounder in a trade in the future).

Also think you're dreaming if you think we'll get two first rounders for Neale (out of contract), but can grab both Lobb and McCarthy (both contracted) for one. Also not sure where the idea we could grab Lobb came from? Made up on BF?

If we are serious about long-term success, we need to draft in the best and develop them, and back in a number of our current youngsters to keep improving. This idea that we can do a Geelong and trade in a number of quality players in one or two off-seasons is fanciful given our trade history. I'm all for selling a fair bit of the farm for Hogan because he is likely to be the best key forward in the league at some point, but anyone else (inc McCarthy) needs to be done in a way so it doesn't stop us from grabbing some high quality youngsters in the draft.

 

[Ysaye]

Totally agree Way2Go the talk around trading for McCarthy, Lobb, OMeara even Hogan etc is just crazy.

Based on where we are we should not be trading picks and and certainly not future picks. We can try and lure someone who is uncontracted to the PSD on money - that's fine but none of the above are put of contract at end of the year, so that rules them all out.

What we have to play atm (ignoring the potential for disgruntled freo players) with is:

1st Round Pick: Use on the best available player is the likely best strategy for this and the best available is most likely to be a midfielder. You could probably trade it down for a lesser pick and an upgrade of third pick to a decent second - if we believed the key position problem was so bad that may make sense, but it is highly risky.

PSD pick - will be high so good leverage to lure a player through but will also increase other teams amenablity to trading with us on uncontracted players. Really though we want to use this pick if we can. Also we may have watered the value of this pick down by forcing ourselves to pick a fourth tound pick....

The danger here is getting too committed to taking McCarthy; his general value is very low atm. If GWS want to still play funny badgers we need to be able to strike him out of calculations quickly. Even if they want to trade for a 4th round, this puts us in a dilemma of having to find another third rounder or equivalent. I can see Ross Lyon already getting a similar set of words ready to that said about Mitch Clark.

 

[Deathly]

Call me crazy but this is my idea for the future


B:Spurr Collins Sutcliffe

You're crazy.