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Yeh, I do think the ufc does underpay to a degree but that a little much.
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Possibly a tad too much but, if the ufc are only paying about 18% of total revenue to their fighters I don't mind a double up.
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Don't forget that the pay isn't evenly spread. There are UFC fighters that take home as little as $10k for a fight, which is before they pay their team. Even if you fight 3x a year, $30k is very low for a televised professional athlete.
Flipside of this is they only bring in 10k worth of revenue. They are completely interchangeable with literally any other fighter in that timeslot so why do they deserve more?
There's literally nothing other than flexibility stopping these guys having jobs as well. Some NBL, AFLW, BBL, even some A-League players. Economically you could make a case the curtain jerkers are overpaid more than under
UFC should be giving out more of a revenue split but it isn't really the lower end that is underpaid. It's the main carders, 'names', and main eventers who bring in the money
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I think it is done quite well by the UFC.
They pay the top guys really well, enough so they wont complain. and then underpay the guys below that top tier. that way the fighters with the biggest voice (stars) aren't going to complain about pay or want to start a union to get better pay, and the train can keep rolling as it is
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Check them kicks!
Conor just ate those low leg kicks, and he had all his weight on the leg at the time. Asking for destruction. He needs to borrow Nate's book - How To Eat Leg Kicks 101
IMO, in this third fight, Conor's only chance is via KO, and probably only in rounds 1 - 3. Poirier did eat some fair shots in that second fight, so Conor will have to hit hard and with precision.
Conor just ate those low leg kicks, and he had all his weight on the leg at the time. Asking for destruction. He needs to borrow Nate's book - How To Eat Leg Kicks 101
IMO, in this third fight, Conor's only chance is via KO, and probably only in rounds 1 - 3. Poirier did eat some fair shots in that second fight, so Conor will have to hit hard and with precision.
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How much would Usman make v Nate opposed to Colby or Leon or whoever else you think is more worthy?
You and I have no idea and even if we did, whats the threshold for whats worthwhile. Is it $10k is it $5m? Thats really up to Usman now isnt it.
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The sport dies... Jesus, bit hyperbolic dont you think. If the sport survived Bones running a pregnant woman off the road and a dude nearly beating his pornstar girlfirend to death i think it will survive Usman taking an easy paycheck with a few extra digits on it for fighting Nate.
Ryz is bang on, youre here saying the UFC needs to pay guys more but then begrudging a guy trying to make more money.
I get your point make the Covington fight worth as much or more than the Diaz fight but you cant then pick and choose when its okay. Dustin v Conor is only different because the differential is higher, the principle is exactly the same. If anything its worse cause its a guy passing up a title shot for a different fight. Usman is the champ and has beaten most of the top contenders in his division.
I never said it dies over 1 fight, but people would lose interest doing nonsensical fights
I never said they needed to pay anyone more. I just pointed out it isn't the curtain jerkers who are underpaid, they bring in nothing. If the fighters don't do anything about their pay, why does anyone care after all these years? Just watch the fights
I have also never said anything about 'money fights' but they need to make sense. Defending Nate v Usman is really, really stupid. Really stupid. End of
DP v Conor makes sense for multiple reasons. It's an actual rivalry where they're 1-1 & the winner will fight for a title shot anyway & people want to see it. Usman v Nate - LOL
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Your quote
" UFC should be giving out more of a revenue split but it isn't really the lower end that is underpaid. It's the main carders, 'names', and main eventers who bring in the money "
Not sure what part of giving out more more is not paying anyone more...
You seem to be completely missing the point, i dont want Usman to fight Nate either, its not a fight that interests me but it will almost certainly generate more eyes, more buys and thus more money for Mr.Kamaru.
So ill end on this (you can keep going if you like, it seems pointless when youre not even arguing the same thing here) how is it Usmans fault that hes trying to maximise his money in his profession, given you quite rightly point out the UFC main eventers (which he is) should be getting more of the split.
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So looks like Lewis v Gane for the interim HW belt. 
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That's just ******* weird
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Wait... what.
Francis last fight was March wasnt it? I think he said he wouldn’t be ready by August, that’s a 4 month turnaround and they’re gonna do an interim belt...
what the hell.
Francis last fight was March wasnt it? I think he said he wouldn’t be ready by August, that’s a 4 month turnaround and they’re gonna do an interim belt...
what the hell.
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Seems disrespectful actually when it’s out this way. Most dudes get 6 months before they have to book a fight, 12 months without a fight before they do interims. I know there is no hard and fast rule but if the interim goes ahead in August it will be less 5 months since Francis won the belt that they are doing an interim title fight and Francis has no injury or contract dispute that we know of...
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Interim titles are ******* stupid. But get in there and fight, Francis. AFAIK, he was offered 2 dates for the Lewis fight and turned both down.
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He fought 3 months ago... and won a world title.
Let the man enjoy it for a bit. If hes refused to fight at all until next March then maybe MAYBE you could argue for an interim title but right now this interim fight will be less than 5 months removed from the guy winning the belt.
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Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate interim titles in general. UFC hand them out far too willly nilly. But this dudes job is a cage fighter. Get in there and do your job.
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When? He fought 3 months ago. What turnaround would suit you?
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The August fight he was offered. 3 to 4 fights a year isn't too much to ask. Its not like he took any damage from the Stipe fight and was off healing.
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Go have a look at the HW championship history, no one has done 3-4 a year, in fact 3-4 a year for any fighter is an enormous ask (let alone heavyweights), thats why they make such a big deal out of it when fighters do it.
Most guys take somewhere between 10-16 weeks for a camp, any less and youre almost certainly going to be underprepared. They guy won the title 96 days ago, hes taken some time to celebrate. He could book sometime now or in the next 4-6 weeks and still comfortably fight again before the end of the year, given he won in March, he fights in Oct/Nov and hed go at 2-2.5 a year (pending injuries and accounting for some extra time off after winning a title) that would make him the most active HW champion in history (granted not many of them manage to defend it at all).
Its not the just bleed era anymore, these guys are professional athletes who train and recover properly.
