That's not the concept of God though. That not what happens as your argument is that God forces people to do things- no free will. Porksy has mentioned many times that God knows what we're going to do but does NOT force us to do it. It's not like Gods playing a video game controlling our lives but he is watching it happen like watching an ant colony...we're doing things ourselves.
Youre not answering my question.
God doesnt 'force' us to do anything. Its just as a byproduct of his infalibility and His knowing what we are going to do
before we do itleaves us with zero say on our choices and decisions.
You cant choose any differently, because God already knows what choice you will make.
1. The Christian God as I understand it wants us to love him by choice and does not force us to love him
If you dont consider 'burning in a lake of fire for all eternity' 'forcing us to love him' then I am a little perplexed.
Besides. God already knows who is going to Sin (and who is going to Hell). He knew he would have to build Hell to hold all those sinners before it was needed. He knew Lucifer was going to fall, knew Eve was going to take the apple, he knew he would have to 'punish' wrongdoers, after creating those wrongdoers knwoing that they'll do it.
2. To make that choice we need free will.
Exactly. As I have already demonstrated, no human being can have free will with the existence of an allknowing God.
Its logically impossible. The only 'choices' you make are already preordained by God. The outcome is already known, and you cant change that no matter how hard you try.
What I think you don't understand is God created us with the ability to sin but not TO sin.
What youre ignoring (time and time again) is God
knew we would Sin when he created us and could have created us differently.
Ergo (logically) he created us to Sin.
Unless you are suggesting that God was
surprised by Man Sinning?