I am not using any of these to justify not giving everything, but I am saying that you do not have to give everything as a commandment.
But Jesus repeatedly commands Christians to! And you are using those verses to justify not giving everything! It's like someone telling me I'm not calling your mum a prostitute, I'm just saying she has sex with people for money. You were trying to justify exactly that while try to ignore the biblical evidence I've built up that shows Jesus does tell you to do so
Why I pointed out those specific verses is to help you understand that money and resource is and has always been a part of the kingdom. That is without any pointers to the OT Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon. Point out each verse you have regarding the words of Jesus and I will do what I can to explain the hidden things.
Sorry that's absolute bs spin right there, you were trying to justify not giving everything, you were saying it's a devil's lie, you should remember what you typed last post, ya know.
And these "hidden things", how much clearer do you want it? It's there in black and white that he tells his followers to do that, so basically when the bible says things you like then you interpret it as it's said, when it says things you don't like then you must discover "hidden meaning", because it must never mean the way you don't like it to mean, okay.
The Alabaster jar story has quite a few strings to its teaching, but the focus for our discussion is in response to the gift. The disciples were indignant, they responded with wrong intentions not thinking beyond what they saw before them, they failed to seek the will of Jesus. The first layer points to the fact he was reminding them of his impending death but it was more to display the role of extravagant worship and blessing. Her resource was being used to glorify the kingdom, and that is something that is not as simple as giving all. God provides resource to bless the Kingdom as a whole. God doesn't give money , he uses people to give money, for that he provides resource. Without the resource , the anointing of Jesus would not happen. It is part of a pattern regarding the stewardship of resource whether that be money, people, spiritual gifts , knowledge... If all Christians gave their money to the poor, where does the next batch of money come from? Yes God provides, but that includes finance. Jesus needed a tomb, God provided using the resource of another.
Yet again that's just bs over-elaborate spin that doesn't even make sense, so many words that actually ends up saying nothing.
No it wasn't a display of the role of extravagant worship and blessing, btw do you know what Jesus say about those who make a big show of worship and they worship in vain? So you're already wrong on that part.
Besides, it isn't even what was said, these are the verses
7 You will always have poor people with you. You can help them any time you want to. But you will not always have me.8 She did what she could. She poured perfume on my body to prepare me to be buried.
That is exactly as Jesus said, the poor will always be there and you should help them the way I commanded you to (which is to sell all your possessions and give to the poor), but
you will not always have me. She poured perfume on my body to prepare me to be buried. It was a special/exceptional case where Jesus made a pass because he was about to be killed, and he saw the anointing as a burial preparation.
So unless Jesus is here in front of you and he's about to die very soon, then everything you tried to spin and twist to justify how Christians spend their finances or or that we don't have to give everything to the poor is just that, imaginative spin. You look at the bible like a Freudian picture, if you wanna see a penis then you'll probably end up seeing a penis, but a penis it isn't.
Re read your talent explanation, you will see that you hit the nail on the head, it is about giving all to the Kingdom, but wisely and with the masters will in mind. Increase is given to those who sow according to Gods will. Again, giving everything away without a plan to keep resource is a little odd if you are building a Kingdom.
But what is "wisely"? Aren't Christians told to trust in the Lord with all their heart and lean not in their own understanding? Aren't Christians told in one of Paul's letters that earthly wisdom is useless to God, but God's foolishness is still better than human wisdom? What you're trying to do is to rationalize not following God's commands as He told you, which is to sell all you have and give to the poor, because in your own human understanding you think that must be wrong, that must be unwise. But then God tells you that by living through faith he would look after you. So what is more important, your earthly wisdom or actual faith?
Christians are told to just follow the bible, not to deviate off it based on "wisdom" when it doesn't suit them. Yet again the parable of the talents actually gives no real indication of how Christians should withhold their finances at all but that's how you choose to spin it.
And yes Christians can distinguish between God and the devil through the Holy Spirit in line with the word.
And the word tells Christians to sell everything and live in faith, for you can't follow Jesus without giving up everything. But apparently that's the devil's lie. So what is from God, what is from the devil? How do you distinguish the Holy Spirit from your own personal selfish desires and agendas? Is the little voice in your head you or God, or you think it's God when it's really you?
If you want to list those verses I will give you my view if you want to continue the discussion. Or if you feel we just won't agree then let's focus on something else, i am happy either way.
I have listed loads of verses of my own that backs up my point from the very start, I see they haven't been dealt with at all, which I am not too surprised about. I don't feel like we'll agree so it's up to you whether you wanna continue, I definitely can but it takes two to tangle