Religion The God Question - part 2

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Hey I'm not looking for any other religions. I'm fine thanks .. got a church with all the answers .. you might be here to search and learn I m just here to stop the bullshit written by the likes of you.

I'm only going to parrot catholic stuff because that's my religion which am very happy with and also happy to draw on its 2000 years of knowledge of this stuff . Makes me look clever even though all i do bugger all thinking myself and it makes you look stupid. It's a win win.
If I was muslin I'd be parroting Muslim stuff.

We don't have discussions . You write rubbish and I point out where you are completely wrong.
It happens every time and it's kinda fun because you just keep ploughing on trying in some weird way to make a point about your beliefs which you don't talk about.

Honestly put me on ignore. Put me in the hall of shame with Bennet because I'm just going to continue doing the same old thing.
the 2 bolded sections don't go together BT or am i missing something? the first one sounds dubious if you read it with the second in mind.
 

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the 2 bolded sections don't go together BT or am i missing something? the first one sounds dubious if you read it with the second in mind.
If I was a happy a Muslim I'd be parroting Muslim stuff. If I was a happy Jew I'd be parroting Jewish stuff. The questions posed on this site are nothing new or ground breaking by along shot. TP has issues where I get my answers to these age old issues.
 

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Anyone starting to like satan? i mean those 10 he killed must have been god's agents carrying on his genocidal and sexist orders? So thats 2 and half million people killed by god and people still follow him cause he is loving,kind and merciful. Add homophobic, racist, slave loving **** to that.

Yes yes i know the points i am raising are too valid, so bad that i am apparently a lunatic. But i am only quoting your Bible and quoting the deeds of your "merciful, loving kind" god who asked everyone to forgive their sins ;)


Here is an example of god's victim"

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.

15 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.

16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth.

17 And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.

18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died.



I suppose the child deserved it because his father sinned though.

Just face facts, heaven is full of unrepentant child murderers and your god is the biggest one of the lot.

Facts wont go down well with you fundies ,so i will leave it at that.
From what I gather you want an Old Testament that doesn't require a New Testament.
Sorry Jesus was always getting the big gig .. the showstopper .. the Old T is for the desert .. the New Testament is for world.
 

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If I was a happy a Muslim I'd be parroting Muslim stuff. If I was a happy Jew I'd be parroting Jewish stuff. The questions posed on this site are nothing new or ground breaking by along shot. TP has issues where I get my answers to these age old issues.
thanks for the reply BT, but i am still confused. which is fine i'll move on.
 

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Yes it is confusing and ridiculous but when your accused of Catholic bias when your a Catholic things will get confusing and ridiculous.
we all have biases it's a natural human condition, depends on your upbringing as you say and not just in religious matters. if i was born and raised in the USA i am sure i would be a basketball, gridiron and baseball fanatic, all sports which i have virtually no time for and would probably think aussie rules was some sort of australian legal system.

one of my best mates of who i have known for over 30 years, his wife and children are devout religious church goers, he is also a big drinker i am a non drinker, he is a rugby union/league fan me not so much, he works i am retired, many differences but his extended family and mine get on like a house on fire.

you just have to accept people the way they are and if not you just move on from them, i have done that with a few people in my life and none of them was to do in any way with their religious/creator opinions one way or the other. an idiot is an idiot no matter what they believe.
 

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From what I gather you want an Old Testament that doesn't require a New Testament.
Sorry Jesus was always getting the big gig .. the showstopper .. the Old T is for the desert .. the New Testament is for world.
Jesus did not preach from the New Testament, it did not exist at that time, hence why the Septuagint was included in Christian scripture at the ecumenical councils.
 
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Because you are not looking discuss, just tear apart for cheap, if not realistic, point scoring
All I'm interested in is the truth. Anything which claims to be the truth is going to be scrutinised. I tear apart what I find incongruous to my values.

As it turns out, the Abrahamic religions not only don't stack up factually, they also preach some very unsavoury messages.
 

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we all have biases it's a natural human condition, depends on your upbringing as you say and not just in religious matters. if i was born and raised in the USA i am sure i would be a basketball, gridiron and baseball fanatic, all sports which i have virtually no time for and would probably think aussie rules was some sort of australian legal system.

one of my best mates of who i have known for over 30 years, his wife and children are devout religious church goers, he is also a big drinker i am a non drinker, he is a rugby union/league fan me not so much, he works i am retired, many differences but his extended family and mine get on like a house on fire.

you just have to accept people the way they are and if not you just move on from them, i have done that with a few people in my life and none of them was to do in any way with their religious/creator opinions one way or the other. an idiot is an idiot no matter what they believe.
There are biases and then there are biases but when your church complied the book you discussing it pretty hard to get away from it.
 
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Hey I'm not looking for any other religions. I'm fine thanks .. got a church with all the answers .. you might be here to search and learn I m just here to stop the bullshit written by the likes of you.

I'm only going to parrot catholic stuff because that's my religion which am very happy with and also happy to draw on its 2000 years of knowledge of this stuff . Makes me look clever even though all i do bugger all thinking myself and it makes you look stupid. It's a win win.
If I was muslin I'd be parroting Muslim stuff.

We don't have discussions . You write rubbish and I point out where you are completely wrong.
It happens every time and it's kinda fun because you just keep ploughing on trying in some weird way to make a point about your beliefs which you don't talk about.

Honestly put me on ignore. Put me in the hall of shame with Bennet because I'm just going to continue doing the same old thing.
Why aren't you a Muslim?
 

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the great man speaks with fantastic logic and commonsense. how institutionalized religious belief is not dead and buried is one of existences great mysteries, maybe we will evolve past these primitive superstitions that were bought about by a lack of knowledge of the natural world. i doubt any of us will be here to see it though.
 

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But why Christianity over Islam?
Here's some parroted Pope stuff

"Many think differently, feel differently, seeking God or meeting God in different ways. In this crowd, in this range of religions, there is only one certainty that we have for all: we are all children of God,” Pope Francis said in his message, released Jan. 6, the feast of the Epiphany."
 

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Here is some more Old Testament from a bloke who can't comprehend anything written 5 minutes ago.

Is there a law against the New Testament in this thread. I could understand if we had some Jews around but it's called the Old for a reason.

Anyway tell us about your great God.
I will spare you of that catholic.com has the answers remember?

Your question is a strawman anyway, pantheists have a god and dont have a god at the same time, yep.. too much to comprehend i know :)
 
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From what I gather you want an Old Testament that doesn't require a New Testament.
Sorry Jesus was always getting the big gig .. the showstopper .. the Old T is for the desert .. the New Testament is for world.
Ah the good ole new testament , racist, homophobic death cult you mean? remember jesus endorsed every single teaching of the OT and he also said the laws of OT cant be broken! try again

 
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