List Mgmt. The Goldstein Preuss Issue

[Pykie]

Goldy is an average ruckman these days, on a huge wage, with years to run on that contract.

He's essentially steaknives now because of his contract size, we will be lucky to get 50% of it off the books.

 

[Shinboner roo]

Goldy is an average ruckman these days, on a huge wage, with years to run on that contract.

He's essentially steaknives now because of his contract size, we will be lucky to get 50% of it off the books.

Dogs mabie would be the side willing to give up a first for him. Would be a good fit for them till english fills out and while still in there window.

 

[buttox]

Wada freo Sydney WC dogs Geelong and hawthorn would all be interested IMO.
A fit Goldy would be an upgrade on all there rucks.

 

[Deadeyeroo]

Wada freo Sydney WC dogs Geelong and hawthorn would all be interested IMO.
A fit Goldy would be an upgrade on all there rucks.

On Nicnat please. In his current form he aint no upgrade on Big boy McEvoy either. Besides Hawthorn don't have a 1st rounder this year.

 

[R00StaR]

Goldy is an average ruckman these days, on a huge wage, with years to run on that contract.

He's essentially steaknives now because of his contract size, we will be lucky to get 50% of it off the books.

Had been thinking the same thing today, we wont get much given the huge contract. Still unless he pulls his finger out id take those steak knives and play Preuss. Why oh why didnt we trade him last year, i was pleading! And Swallow the year before, although i was quieter on that one. Too many on this board cant see a thing until its obvious to the world, of course by then its too late.

 

[giantroo]

On Nicnat please. In his current form he aint no upgrade on Big boy McEvoy either. Besides Hawthorn don't have a 1st rounder this year.

They still have a future one.

 

[Long Live the King]

Loved watching Mummy take out Beams...you cant underestimate the value of a big guy throwing his weight around.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Goldys good games still see him as a top 5 ruckman.

His inconsistency is the real issue.

If a trade were on the tables then I could see Richmond possibly showing interest, provided we picked up a solid chunk of his contract.

 

[Horace]

Let's rule Hawthorn out. They'll trade us a pick that is bound to be a spud. They have form in this area.

 

[Dirty_11]

Are we playing him so he retains some sought of currency? I think other list managers would be aware of his struggles this season anyway. I think we would be better served working on the Preuss/Daw combo for the rest of the year. If Goldy cannot attract a second rounder then leave him on the list as a back-up, which is about where his form is at atm.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Dogs mabie would be the side willing to give up a first for him. Would be a good fit for them till english fills out and while still in there window.

No one is giving up a first rounder for him. It would be a "here's a later pick, we'll pick up his contract" sort of scenario.

 

[Groin guru]

Tom Campbell won the hitouts 49-25





Tom Campbell.



Larkey or Durdin would do a better job at competing. If he is backed in again over preuss i might cry.

 

[muttley45]

Just wandered into this thread to see if anyone was defending Goldy's pantsing by Tom Campbell, no one yet, i will check back later

 

[dus]

Just wandered into this thread to see if anyone was defending Goldy's pantsing by Tom Campbell, no one yet, i will check back later

Our friend in Darwin, Mrs Goldstein, must be having problems with her NBN.

 

[Shermanator]

Here's a typical example of a (great) player seriously out of form.

Unless you're Ian Baker-Finch or you've done an Achilles, you don't lose your ability overnight.

It's an absolute tragedy that this guy, who had infinite Richard's only months ago, has been left to play in the 1's when he should've been demoted to find form/get over injuries/or seek counselling. Hey.. even 'invent' an injury to keep the Ambulance chasers away and protect the big guys state of mind.

It's either very bad decision making at the selection table (backing him in every game) or it's Goldy's sheer stubbornness (telling the medicos and selection committee he's 100% physically and mentally ready every game) someone is wrong and it's hurting everyone.

I still reckon he has some seriously good footy left in him, but the longer it takes to send him back and get his head/body right the smaller the window is to prove that.

 

[Black2Blue]

Just going thru the motions is Goldy. The moment the siren rang he was having a chuckle and a handshake. No raw emotion there, suggests he is either disconnected with the team and coaches, doing the minimum required, or saving himself for a shift of clubs as is being touted.

So we have Preuss who doesn't have a full tank. And we have Goldy who doesn't have a full ticker. What comes first? Tank or ticker?

 

[danj]

Ticker, play Pruess and Daw, it would be like a panzer tank division of the arfrika korp all we would need then is a coach with Rommels tactical genius

 

[dus]

You can build a tank.

You can't build a ticker.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Goldy is soft and has a huge contract. Waite is pushing 35. Hansen is ooc and ufa (so would be praying for Nathan Buck$ to get a renewal).

Play Pruess and Maj (who is contracted to 2019).

Wood can always play 3rd tall or push up to the wing.

And we have Mckay, Larkey, Durdin, Neilson developing and need games.

 

[Ohhh Errol]

Im not into putting this eloquently, I dont think Goldie gives one *.

Should've traded and committed to rebuilding.

 

[FloozyRoozy]

It's this simple:

Drop Goldy and give game time to Preuss - he is our future and has proven capable of being a star ruckman.
We do not want Preuss to get frustrated and leave due to a lack of opportunity.

If GWS are interested in Goldy use him as part of a trade to secure Josh Kelly that way we don't have to waste our picks.

If they are also interested in Atley chuck him in as well.

 

[B4Bear]

Ticker, play Pruess and Daw, it would be like a panzer tank division of the arfrika korp all we would need then is a coach with Rommels tactical genius

A pity we have one with Mussolini's tactics instead?

 

[danj]

A pity we have one with Mussolini's tactics instead?

Fascist despot? Rewards sycophants doesn't reward performance plays favourites and can't take advice, that Mussolini?

 

[Hazey1977]

Had been thinking the same thing today, we wont get much given the huge contract. Still unless he pulls his finger out id take those steak knives and play Preuss. Why oh why didnt we trade him last year, i was pleading! And Swallow the year before, although i was quieter on that one. Too many on this board cant see a thing until its obvious to the world, of course by then its too late.

Don't worry about this board seeing this too late, we're years ahead of the club at the things

 

[Hazey1977]

Here's a typical example of a (great) player seriously out of form.

Unless you're Ian Baker-Finch or you've done an Achilles, you don't lose your ability overnight.

It's an absolute tragedy that this guy, who had infinite Richard's only months ago, has been left to play in the 1's when he should've been demoted to find form/get over injuries/or seek counselling. Hey.. even 'invent' an injury to keep the Ambulance chasers away and protect the big guys state of mind.

It's either very bad decision making at the selection table (backing him in every game) or it's Goldy's sheer stubbornness (telling the medicos and selection committee he's 100% physically and mentally ready every game) someone is wrong and it's hurting everyone.

I still reckon he has some seriously good footy left in him, but the longer it takes to send him back and get his head/body right the smaller the window is to prove that.

Sound like a familiar process? See document NMFC_Selection Process_Petrie Exemption Policy