Analysis The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Vs St Kilda round 8

[jakethebear]

Yeah - web album is here http://www.davesavell.com/p659000888
Mostly Saints photos however sorry.

Dave

Cheers

 

[who gives a]

Enjoyed the game bar the second qtr good win in the end . Shows when challenged we can rise to it

 

[eagles rule]

Good
Duggan ,Nelson look to be very good draftees ,
Wellingham`s focus and intent is very good definetely turned a corner and also
Sheppard is a big improver.
The goal spread is making our fwd line very difficult to contain .

Bad
Falling away sharply and allowing Saints to go on a 5 goal momentum run

 

[RookiePick]

...
McInnes has probably locked up his role as placeholder for Darling, he's been close to invisible in all three games and he wasn't bad today but just really ineffective
...

McInnes has all the hallmarks of a late bloomer to me, he looks like he is 19 and seems a shyer type on the ground. He's 22 about round 16 I think. If he can do/show enough to still be playing AFL footy when he is 25 I think he will be a dominant forward. Some of his kicks i50 today were high quality.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

McInnes has all the hallmarks of a late bloomer to me, he looks like he is 19 and seems a shyer type on the ground. He's 22 about round 16 I think. If he can do/show enough to still be playing AFL footy when he is 25 I think he will be a dominant forward. Some of his kicks i50 today were high quality.

Fair call, he did some really nice things but was too quiet for mine for large stretches. To be fair he was robbed of a certain goal in the first five minutes after a terrific mark. I don't have a problem with him in this side, I just can't see how he gets in once JD comes back.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Didn't watch the game live so here's my take having just seen it.
Bad:
Not to derail the thread, although I'm sure it's been mentioned before, Priddis' second quarter was really tough to watch. A few very poor visible errors, but I'm sure it's all been said before so I'll leave it there.
Letting an objectively bad football team into the contest when it should have been flat track bully time was a bit disappointing, they let the physicality throw them off which I haven't seen from the team this year
McInnes has probably locked up his role as placeholder for Darling, he's been close to invisible in all three games and he wasn't bad today but just really ineffective
Hurn was pretty quiet after a huge start, defended very well towards the end but didn't look to establish him as a rebound option in the last three quarters. I watched the game in a pretty noisy room so he may have had a knock that they mentioned and I didn't pick it up, just odd to see him go into such a lockdown role when he was so damaging early

Tell me more.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Sheppard out-muscling a bigger bodied opponent has become something of a highlight for me in recent weeks.
This week he beat Bruce hands down in two marking contests.

 

[swannies]

You stirring bastard Dark Sharks, you should be making the badger go to the Priddis thread.

 

[garlic munchers]

Good - one more win on the way to our grand total of 13.

We are home and hosed for at least 7th!

 

[Keys]

Not sure if it's good, bad, ugly or all three but Simmo always looks like he's rubbing one out in his post game press conferences

 

[jatz14]

Thought he was pretty ordinary actually. I don't understand the hype on here about him. Not saying he won't be a useful player, just not seeing overly much atm.

Always thought he looked essence of vanilla, and never got the love affair with him. I guess he fits with the change for change sake mindset here. Looking forward to the moans in a few years about why Nelson is getting a game when we could be pumping games into a youngster. He could and probably will be a handy player for years to come, but nothing special.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Always thought he looked essence of vanilla, and never got the love affair with him. I guess he fits with the change for change sake mindset here. Looking forward to the moans in a few years about why Nelson is getting a game when we could be pumping games into a youngster. He could and probably will be a handy player for years to come, but nothing special.

Don't most rate him as the 5th best prospect we picked up last year (behind Duggan, Cavka, Lamb and Waterman).
In which case "handy" means we should be excited by the 2014 draft.
The main downside I see with Nelson atm is that he looks distinctly like Adam Selwood from behind.

 

[Dugg]

Not sure if it's good, bad, ugly or all three but Simmo always looks like he's rubbing one out in his post game press conferences

I rub one out during each of his press conferences

 

[jatz14]

Don't most rate him as the 5th best prospect we picked up last year (behind Duggan, Cavka, Lamb and Waterman).
In which case "handy" means we should be excited by the 2014 draft.
The main downside I see with Nelson atm is that he looks distinctly like Adam Selwood from behind.

Would need to rate him as his own player, not as a component in a draft year. As a player, his main attribute seems to be he is competitive, but I cannot think of anything he seems particularly good at, although to be fair, he doesn't seem particularly bad at anything either. He may be the anti Priddis. Duggan is the goods. Haven't really seen Cavka or Waterman. Lamb I find exciting and worrying in equal measure. Concerned he may be just a tease. Prospects for the 2014 draft are great, but they are just prospects, it hasn't actually done much yet. Anyway, wrong thread for it.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Nelson is good off both feet, solid defensively and has a good head on his shoulders. Yet people are looking for the negatives?

 

[swannies]

Nelson is good off both feet, solid defensively and has a good head on his shoulders. Yet people are looking for the negatives?

Well, I look for negatives with Jen Hawkins.

 

[Keys]

Well, I look for negatives with Jen Hawkins.

Massive negative is that she isn't next to me right now

 

[jatz14]

Nelson is good off both feet, solid defensively and has a good head on his shoulders. Yet people are looking for the negatives?

There are about 14000 posts on the negatives of 1 player, so I query your surprise, besides, I do not see negatives, just an absence of standout positives, and they may come as he is young (which may be the standout positive).

 

[Carbine Chaos]

There are about 14000 posts on the negatives of 1 player, so I query your surprise, besides, I do not see negatives, just an absence of standout positives, and they may come as he is young (which may be the standout positive).

The standout positive for me is his overall solidarity. He has done his job with minimum fuss and is to be commended on that fact for a 1st year player.

 

[shoebox]

The biggest positive this year is ball use. We saw glimpses late last year with clean ball movement, but we are now in the upper ranks. Make no mistakes, Simpson can coach. He is the real deal, get excited

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

In Nelsons defence, I remember questioning LeCras' lack of standout qualities in the first year or two of his career and I don't think anyone strongly disagreed with me at the time.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Nelson is good off both feet, solid defensively and has a good head on his shoulders. Yet people are looking for the negatives?

I like Nelson.

Seems a steady hand. Blue chip contributors are underrated.

 

[shoebox]

In Nelsons defence, I remember questioning LeCras' lack of standout qualities in the first year or two of his career and I don't think anyone strongly disagreed with me at the time.

Why are we defending an 18 yr old defender who doesn't make a mistake. The recruits of the past two years are why are why we are second

 

[Dark Sharks]

Why are we defending an 18 yr old defender who doesn't make a mistake. The recruits of the past two years are why are why we are second

True, Dylan Main has certainly done his part.

 

[Natho]

True, Dylan Main has certainly done his part.

The main man!