The History of the Richmond Football Club

[Thatsmyname]

The arrival of Hughes and Percy Page's recruiting skills spurred Richmond to a grand final against Collingwood in 1927. A semi-final between the two had attracted 64,000, but the weather was so adverse that only 34,000 made it to the grand-final. The rain was so heavy that both clubs and most of the media wanted the game called off, but the VFL insisted. Collingwood won when their coach Jock McHale instructed his players to play soccer and not attempt to pick up the ball.

1928 and Richmond were the team to beat despite Collingwood being at the peak of their powers. Richmond drew 66,000 to their semi-final win over Carlton and sat back to watch the Collingwood and Melbourne play for the right to meet Richmond. They played a draw and the replay was held a week later. By the time the grand-final came around Richmond had been three weeks without football and lost to Collingwood. More people had seen Richmond's semi-final than the grand final for the second year in a row. Collingwood only lost one game after the perfect home and away season in 1929, to Richmond in the semi-final, but fronted up again inflicting Richmond's second grand final loss in a row. 1929 saw Richmond lose 9 players to rivals and retirements but still made the Grand Final only to lose to you know who. In 1930 Richmond were unfortunate to run into Collingwood in the semi-final and lost by 3 points.

Long story short the clubs only 3peat was losing 3 Grand Finals in a row to Collingwood before being relegated to 9th for 4 decades

the end

 

[zackah]

Did Richmond molest you as a child?

 

[Thatsmyname]

Did Richmond molest you as a child?

No, dad was an Essendon supporter

 

[Tiger2709]

From your article it looks like Richmond were always the biggest club in the comp, well done some good research.

Isnt it surprising that since Collingwoods 4 in a row they have only won another 6 flags in 90 years, while Richmond have won 10 flags in the same perood and here we are nearly 100 years later and still the biggest club in the comp.

 

[Thatsmyname]

So you're saying it's 15 flags to 12... that must be a real knock to the utensil

 

[A Bit Dusty]

No, dad was an Essendon supporter

Your dad should've pulled out...

 

[Thatsmyname]

Your dad should've pulled out...

Says the dribble down the thigh

 

[Bicko]

So you're saying it's 15 flags to 12... that must be a real knock to the utensil

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[Thatsmyname]

Thatsmynameandbeingridiculouslyf@#kinrepetitiveismygame!

 

[brett15]

rofl

OP is a closet Richmond supporter

 

[Bicko]

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[Thatsmyname]

15 > 12

 

[Bicko]

15 > 12
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Lol, seriously, you are a massive flog.

 

[Thatsmyname]

Lol, seriously, you are a massive.

That's what all the gurls say

 

[Jonathan Sausage_]

Richmond had the largest membership and some of the biggest crowds in 2018 after winning a premiership in 2017 . Yet by the AFL’s funding model they are notably still treated as a mid-tier player here, on par with the success-deprived former heavywight in Carlton, and the Swans who live in a non-traditional market. With Richmond’s current large crowds and very high membership count, this seems odd on the face, but there’s a few factors to consider.

Firstly, this funding is largely mapped out in advance so clubs can plan around it. It doesn’t fluctuate hugely year-to-year. Richmond’s baseline is a lengthy period of smaller crowds and less success. If they find sustained success and set a new higher baseline, presumably their relative funding levels will reduce accordingly over time.

Remember, too, that not all crowds and memberships are equally lucrative, and that commercial capacity plays a role in a club’s financial situation. Richmond’s social club operations are much smaller than Hawthorn or Collingwood’s or Essendon’s, bringing in probably less than $1 million in actual profits after cost, a small fraction of those bigger operations.

The MCG allows huge crowds without supply constraints on tickets, and it allows the Tigers the sale of a lot of lower value memberships such as 3-game entries. In contrast, a club like West Coast mostly sells premium 11 game packages due to demand and can jack up ticket prices due to scarcity. And of course at the biggest MCG games, a big chunk the crowds are supporters of the Tigers’ Victorian opposition, whose membership money isn’t going to the Tigers.

All this means that the Tigers, even with a post-premiership boom underway in all the 2018 financial data, did not make as much money from membership and gate as the Eagles did in a typical year (before their own flag). Even with premiership bonuses built into many sponsor deals, the Tigers didn’t make as much corporate revenue as Hawthorn or Collingwood or (presumably) Sydney.

So far, despite the memberships boost, the main commercial marketing survey of supporter bases, Roy Morgan, doesn't think they've got a bigger supporter base than Essendon or Collingwood. We should, however, note that the survey period there is July to June. That means the Tigers’ inevitable premiership bandwagon of “casual fans who suddenly remembered they like the Tigers”, a phenomenon for every premier, won’t be fully visible until the next release.

 

[Thatsmyname]

Richmond had the largest membership and some of the biggest crowds in 2018 after winning a premiership in 2017 . Yet by the AFL’s funding model they are notably still treated as a mid-tier player here, on par with the success-deprived former heavywight in Carlton, and the Swans who live in a non-traditional market. With Richmond’s current large crowds and very high membership count, this seems odd on the face, but there’s a few factors to consider.

Firstly, this funding is largely mapped out in advance so clubs can plan around it. It doesn’t fluctuate hugely year-to-year. Richmond’s baseline is a lengthy period of smaller crowds and less success. If they find sustained success and set a new higher baseline, presumably their relative funding levels will reduce accordingly over time.

Remember, too, that not all crowds and memberships are equally lucrative, and that commercial capacity plays a role in a club’s financial situation. Richmond’s social club operations are much smaller than Hawthorn or Collingwood’s or Essendon’s, bringing in probably less than $1 million in actual profits after cost, a small fraction of those bigger operations.

The MCG allows huge crowds without supply constraints on tickets, and it allows the Tigers the sale of a lot of lower value memberships such as 3-game entries. In contrast, a club like West Coast mostly sells premium 11 game packages due to demand and can jack up ticket prices due to scarcity. And of course at the biggest MCG games, a big chunk the crowds are supporters of the Tigers’ Victorian opposition, whose membership money isn’t going to the Tigers.

All this means that the Tigers, even with a post-premiership boom underway in all the 2018 financial data, did not make as much money from membership and gate as the Eagles did in a typical year (before their own flag). Even with premiership bonuses built into many sponsor deals, the Tigers didn’t make as much corporate revenue as Hawthorn or Collingwood or (presumably) Sydney.

So far, despite the memberships boost, the main commercial marketing survey of supporter bases, Roy Morgan, doesn't think they've got a bigger supporter base than Essendon or Collingwood. We should, however, note that the survey period there is July to June. That means the Tigers’ inevitable premiership bandwagon of “casual fans who suddenly remembered they like the Tigers”, a phenomenon for every premier, won’t be fully visible until the next release.

 

[HAPPY BUDDHA]

 

[Wallaby]

The arrival of Hughes and Percy Page's recruiting skills spurred Richmond to a grand final against Collingwood in 1927. A semi-final between the two had attracted 64,000, but the weather was so adverse that only 34,000 made it to the grand-final. The rain was so heavy that both clubs and most of the media wanted the game called off, but the VFL insisted. Collingwood won when their coach Jock McHale instructed his players to play soccer and not attempt to pick up the ball.

1928 and Richmond were the team to beat despite Collingwood being at the peak of their powers. Richmond drew 66,000 to their semi-final win over Carlton and sat back to watch the Collingwood and Melbourne play for the right to meet Richmond. They played a draw and the replay was held a week later. By the time the grand-final came around Richmond had been three weeks without football and lost to Collingwood. More people had seen Richmond's semi-final than the grand final for the second year in a row. Collingwood only lost one game after the perfect home and away season in 1929, to Richmond in the semi-final, but fronted up again inflicting Richmond's second grand final loss in a row. 1929 saw Richmond lose 9 players to rivals and retirements but still made the Grand Final only to lose to you know who. In 1930 Richmond were unfortunate to run into Collingwood in the semi-final and lost by 3 points.

Long story short the clubs only 3peat was losing 3 Grand Finals in a row to Collingwood before being relegated to 9th for 4 decades

the end

You do know that immediately after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row (great team) - Richmond played in the next 4 GFs and won 2 of them? And that after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row, Richmond went on to win another 10 flags, while Collingwood (after winning 10 of the first 34 premierships) only won 6 of the next 89?

If anything broke after 1930, it wasn't Richmond. It was more the last dying gasp of a once great working-class team. That's unfortunate. How lucky you were to be around to enjoy it back then (you should talk about that with my great uncle - oh sorry, he died 35 years ago).

It's a shame that your team has now become the final refuge for John Wren's last living relatives, supported by theatre-going avo-smashing latte-sippers who can finally now attend games since the club moved down to the leafy banks of the Yarra, rather than that northern cesspit best known throughout its history for being 'well-drained'.

 

[Thatsmyname]

You do know that immediately after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row (great team) - Richmond played in the next 4 GFs and won 2 of them? And that after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row, Richmond went on to win another 10 flags, while Collingwood (after winning 10 of the first 34 premierships) only won 6 of the next 89?

If anything broke after 1930, it wasn't Richmond. It was more the last dying gasp of a once great working-class team. That's unfortunate. How lucky you were to be around to enjoy it back then (you should talk about that with my great uncle - oh sorry, he died 35 years ago).

It's a shame that your team has now become the final refuge for John Wren's last living relatives, supported by theatre-going avo-smashing latte-sippers who can finally now attend games since the club moved down to the leafy banks of the Yarra, rather than that northern cesspit best known throughout its history for being 'well-drained'.

What an entertaining and colourful, colloquial pile of cockswaggle, I'll just assume it's still 15 to 12 though yes?

 

[brett15]

You do know that immediately after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row (great team) - Richmond played in the next 4 GFs and won 2 of them? And that after Collingwood's 4-in-a-row, Richmond went on to win another 10 flags, while Collingwood (after winning 10 of the first 34 premierships) only won 6 of the next 89?

If anything broke after 1930, it wasn't Richmond. It was more the last dying gasp of a once great working-class team. That's unfortunate. How lucky you were to be around to enjoy it back then (you should talk about that with my great uncle - oh sorry, he died 35 years ago).

It's a shame that your team has now become the final refuge for John Wren's last living relatives, supported by theatre-going avo-smashing latte-sippers who can finally now attend games since the club moved down to the leafy banks of the Yarra, rather than that northern cesspit best known throughout its history for being 'well-drained'.

oh don't leave out the best part, argus was also removed after 1930

 

[Wallaby]

What an entertaining and colourful, colloquial pile of cockswaggle, I'll just assume it's still 15 to 12 though yes?

I think you have missed the point. You were saying that the great 4-in-a-row of Collingwood 1927-30 changed history. It certainly did. It was a great effort and certainly worth a glossy picture book on the coffee table.

However, since that time (1930) -

Carlton have won 11 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Essendon have won 10 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Richmond have won 10 flags (oooh, that.....look, we'll take it as read from now)
Melbourne (Melbourne!) have won 10 flags
Geelong have won 8 flags
Hawthorn have won 13 flags


Collingwood have won 6 flags
North have won 4, St Kilda, Footscray etc have won their treasured 1 or 2. South were so bad they went bust and got sent north to LaLa land - where, in that time they have won the same number of flags as Collingwood have in the same period. Fitzroy - similar, except they have won more flags during their time on AFL life support. Both West Coast and Adelaide have won more flags since they entered the competition than Collingwood has won in the same timeframe. Port Adelaide (them?) have been as successful as Collingwood. And since GC and GWS have entered the comp, neither has won a flag - and neither has Collingwood.

Let's face it - Collingwood are a remnant of a 19th-century powerhouse who had a brief spurt of relevance in the early 20th century. But right now, they are in the group with the also-rans, just-happy-to-be-here-making-up-the-numbers, and business franchises designed to sell advertising space.

 

[HAPPY BUDDHA]

 

[TazHawk15]

I think you have missed the point. You were saying that the great 4-in-a-row of Collingwood 1927-30 changed history. It certainly did. It was a great effort and certainly worth a glossy picture book on the coffee table.

However, since that time (1930) -

Carlton have won 11 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Essendon have won 10 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Richmond have won 10 flags (oooh, that.....look, we'll take it as read from now)
Melbourne (Melbourne!) have won 10 flags
Geelong have won 8 flags
Hawthorn have won 13 flags

Hawks are kings, as usual.

 

[Thatsmyname]

I think you have missed the point. You were saying that the great 4-in-a-row of Collingwood 1927-30 changed history. It certainly did. It was a great effort and certainly worth a glossy picture book on the coffee table.

However, since that time (1930) -

Carlton have won 11 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Essendon have won 10 flags (oooh, that must hurt)
Richmond have won 10 flags (oooh, that.....look, we'll take it as read from now)
Melbourne (Melbourne!) have won 10 flags
Geelong have won 8 flags
Hawthorn have won 13 flags


Collingwood have won 6 flags
North have won 4, St Kilda, Footscray etc have won their treasured 1 or 2. South were so bad they went bust and got sent north to LaLa land - where, in that time they have won the same number of flags as Collingwood have in the same period. Fitzroy - similar, except they have won more flags during their time on AFL life support. Both West Coast and Adelaide have won more flags since they entered the competition than Collingwood has won in the same timeframe. Port Adelaide (them?) have been as successful as Collingwood. And since GC and GWS have entered the comp, neither has won a flag - and neither has Collingwood.

Let's face it - Collingwood are a remnant of a 19th-century powerhouse who had a brief spurt of relevance in the early 20th century. But right now, they are in the group with the also-rans, just-happy-to-be-here-making-up-the-numbers, and business franchises designed to sell advertising space.

There is no "however since then"

you don't get to cherry pick periods to make yourself feel better about us breaking your club in half and relegating you to 9th for most of your history, you're a joke, and a few flags doesn't fix that, in fact choking the 3peat just reinforces it

At the end of the days with all eras accounted for 15 > 12

That's the reality, you blew your shot at BIG 4 and Hawthorn stepped up and took it (oooh, that must hurt)

 

[A Bit Dusty]

It Hurts being a Collingwood supporter and I just troll to make myself feel better. I know we have been the worst team for the last 60 years. I need a holiday.

HaHa looks like your getting a holiday Sunshine Too Bad So Sad