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Preview The Home Ground Factor in Finals is hugely overrated

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  1. kranky al

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    Is there even a single team with a better away finals record?

    Maybe sydney?

    When you look at the numbers it really puts the dogs flag in perspective.
     
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  2. dean33

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    Yes but the flip side is no advantage when playing as the higher ranked team. We could play 3 finals against pies, hawks, demons and not enjoy home ground advantage in any of them. However it is what it is and we just deal with the cards we are dealt, something insular interstate fans have trouble doing.
     
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    We’d still lose the free kick count by 10 in either scenario.
     
  4. kranky al

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    Thats because as previously explained - 50% of the time you play another tenant its a disadvantage as you are higher ranked and 50% of the time its an advantage as you are lower ranked yet still play on your home ground and still dont fly.

    If we are lower ranked we fly in all but derbies.
     
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    That’s because they are typically higher ranked and (in theory) are better than their opposition anyway. Would the result to the Sydney v Essendon EF last year have changed if it was held at the MCG?
     
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    I guess that solves it then. All other grounds have home ground advantages but the MCG tenants because you've experienced it.

    What a load of shit.
     
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    You fly more often, you get used to it. A luxury vic sides don’t have when they fly. Heavily weighted in favour of non vic teams but vic teams continue to punch above their weight.
     
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    If we are better at flying its a HARD EARNED advantage.

    Not a gifted advantage - like gf’s at your home ground.
     
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    But i do remember that exact situation happening to west coast where we had to play a “home game” vs the bombers in melbourne.

    We lost.
     
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    Common sense seriously lacking over east
     
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    How so kranky? Due to you being based in Perth and having to fly to the milk bar if you need milk? Nothing hard earned about your location kranky, also have the advantage of any wa boys wanting to come home having a choice between 2 clubs rather than 10 clubs for any vic clubs. All advantage weighted in your favour, I know you know this already and are just here to stir shit you wily old dog you.
     

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    Wouldnt be surprised if you found a way.

    Youguys ever think that a big reason (aside from the crowd) we win free kick counts is because our backs in the form of barrass and mcgov dont scrag and infringe on your forwards

    They just outmark them
     
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    For the last 10 years?
     
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    No because we fly every second week and face hostile crowds every second week - we are battle hardened to it from day one - you wily old fox.

    And a lot of players dont want to come home as they dont want to spend so much time on planes. Jom is one especially - given his injury record the thought of spending more time in the polar opposite of a hyperbaric chamber is a big turn off.
     
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    Mate you are preaching to the choir.

    if you think im going to argue that we dont get a good run with umps at perth oval you will be waiting a long time.

    There are a few ither factors to mitigate though - our corral rather than tackle policy has been around for dwonks and that affects it. I personally hate it - yeah you dont get as many frees against - but its a tactic that comes unstuck in finals i reckon.
     
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    Probably more to do with living in Melbourne over Perth. You do have lovely beaches however:)
     
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    i've always believed the biggest advantage is familiarity and suitability of the ground size to a team's style, more so than location and crowd.

    carlton are bad but we are 100% worse at etihad than we are an any other stadium even though it's our home. if all the games were at etihad essendon might be the flag favorites. There'd be over 100 points swing in a carlton v essendon game at etihad compared to the MCG
     
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    By over 10 goals, another example of your inflated ladder position due to greater hga during the season and getting found out in finals.
     
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    West Coast travels more often which is an advantage. Now I've heard it all.
     
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    So you're saying your fans play for you when you're at your home game - is that the advantage? Or is it that your fans aren't allowed to attend non home games at the MCG? Here's me thinking the main advantage of playing at home was not having to travel and being familiar with your home ground and how to play it...
     
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    Good stat 8 each.
    Would love to splice that down to who was the better team for the majority of the year / which victorian teams had MCG home ground.

    For example we played St Kilda in 97 who werent an MCG tenant.
     
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    You have an advantage when traveling over a side that doesn’t travel much, if you do something more often you get better at it no?
    Marathons are hard, if I run 10 of them a year and you run 1, I’m tipping I’m going to be better at running marathons don’t you think?
     
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    Home ground advantage is a big combination of things.

    No travel
    Familiarity with both ground and pregame surroundings/night before
    Crowd
    Umpiring
     
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    Such a crock

    Only a victorian could call travelling perth to interstate every second week an advantage while when they have to do it once its a “huge disadvantage the next week”
     
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    In a short term yes, long term no as it means more injuries from more marathons
     
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