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Who will be coaching Port Adelaide in 2013? (3rd Poll)


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Can you please send at least the first paragraph quoted to every media out let and on the comments page of the Fairfax and News Ltd online papers. The online papers in sin city will run it. :thumbsu: Dermie will run it and have a giggle. Gerard Whateley will have a big blush. **** it, send it to Sam's mailbag - he will love the imagery of steel capped strap-on. Might even try to perform it.

I second this motion.
 

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No mate, and I've had a much closer seat to it all than you have. His record for the resources he's had in actuality, from go to woe, is not mediocre; it's not mind blowing either. 3pts away from a preliminary final with a young team is IMO better than anything Eade produced at the Bulldogs.
lol wat?

Eade coached the Bulldogs to 1 semi final and 3 preliminary finals (and has also coached the Swans to a GF in the past). Ratten coached Carlton to 1 semi final and no preliminary finals.

A more senior team doesn't mean a better team, by the way. Port are probably more senior than a hell of a lot of teams who are currently above them on the ladder.
 

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The gist is we do not want Ratten, we don't give a **** about Carlton, we've read your comments, enough is enough.

Thank you for your interest, but I reckon we are capable of making informed & correct comments about all & sundry within the AFL.

The Port supporters have spoken.
 
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I might be wrong here, but I think Eade has achieved far more with far less at the Bulldogs than Ratten has at Carlton. Also, I haven't seen any evidence that Eade is past it. He got sacked the moment the Bulldogs looked to be going downhill - whether that's the Bulldog's higher ups deciding it's success or the sack or whether they thought they'd save themselves some cash now that they're out of contention we probably won't ever know. Either way, Eade looks to be best option for Port Adelaide as an experienced coach.
Pretty much how I see it- eade got great results out of average lists. Has now worked at one of the most powerful and resourced clubs in the afl, is respected enough to command attention of the players, sponsors, and the national media - yet personable enough to be able to work with a young list

Eade is clearly the right man for the job - can we convince him it's the right job for the man?
 

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The gist is we do not want Ratten, we don't give a **** about Carlton, we've read your comments, enough is enough.

Thank you for your interest, but I reckon we are capable of making informed & correct comments about all & sundry within the AFL.

The Port supporters have spoken.
An average attitude IMO, but I've already said I won't continue on, so you're kinda just yelling at the mirror here.

A lot of misnomers about Ratts in this thread, but it's your board, so you can pretend you're right if you want.

Good luck for the last round of the season guys. Sorry if my posting has perturbed some of you for whatever reason.

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Funny. Carlton supporters will swear until they're blue in the face that every half-decent player on their list is a star, but then when it comes to discussing the performance of the coach relative to the players at his disposal apparently their list isn't much good.
 

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An average attitude IMO, but I've already said I won't continue on, so you're kinda just yelling at the mirror here.

A lot of misnomers about Ratts in this thread, but it's your board, so you can pretend you're right if you want.

Good luck for the last round of the season guys. Sorry if my posting has perturbed some of you for whatever reason.

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Sorry, what misnomers?

Carlton sacked him because they didn't think he was good enough. Your opinion is that he is not good enough for you, but good enough for us. Why's that? Because we're a "feeder club"? What a load of wank. Leave the arrogance back at your own board if you want to add your two cents.

The reason why we'd prefer Eade is that he has been in this situation before, rebuilt the Dog's to an inch of multiple Grand Final appearances, has experience at a "poor" club :rolleyes:, has that kind of aura that makes players think twice about bullshitting him and is currently a senior strategist at a top four club.

The reason we'd prefer Burns is that he is at a club that languished around the bottom of the ladder for about three years and took them to the top four and has the players playing an extremely effective game plan in one season. Trusted, respected by one of the best coaches in the AFL and is still young enough to bring fresh ideas into the place.

The reason why we're sceptical on Ratten is that it is a pretty widely held view that Carlton's improvement has been based upon the addition of Judd and three consecutive number one draft picks. His tactical nous has been called into question several times and has won the grand total of one final.

Not against bringing Ratten in for an assitant role, or even interviewing him and putting him on the shortlist. But FFS it's incredibly arrogant to start spruiking how we would be a pathetic club if we didn't immediately pick up another teams "slops".
 

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So yeah. That's less than half the Carlton team sorry. The fact remains that like it or not, Ratten built a list as much he inherited one and he took it up the ladder. You can come up with diminutive rationalisations all you want, but they're pretty light on if you know your stuff.
First up - the reason people do not want to discuss this topic with you is because you are a w***er.

2nd - Ratten built a team which at its peak was only good enough for a mid table finish. It is hard to see both Judd and Murphy being in the top 10 players in the comp together again. He failed to see McCleans worth as an inside midfielder and get the best out of him when it mattered.

With the A and B grade players he inherited and the plug-in-and-play players he picked up through drafting and trading (Judd, McClean, Scotland, Simpson, Robinson, Gibbs, Murphy, Carazzo, etc.) mid table is just breaking even.

Having their pants pulled down in the wet against a bigger, stronger, more motivated Port side this year shows that Ratten is not a good coach at all and that what he built was complete shit. There are gaping holes in talent/age/experience on the list. Carlton are set for 3-4 years at the bottom where their outside mids get beat up on weekly and they try to rebuild their inside mid group and kpp stocks. That would sound familiar to a few on here...

If he puts his hand up for the Port gig he will go through the interview process and by the end of it will be clear he is not the right person for the job. Thanks but no thanks.
 

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I am starting to feel sorry for Carlton, this draft thing is not really working to good for them, not like the good old days when you just went across a border or two and bought your ready made star players, never needed a coach in those days.
 

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The reason we'd prefer Burns is that he is at a club that languished around the bottom of the ladder for about three years and took them to the top four and has the players playing an extremely effective game plan in one season. Trusted, respected by one of the best coaches in the AFL and is still young enough to bring fresh ideas into the place.
The thing to be careful with re Burns is that he is talked about as a 'stoppage expert'.

1. Does that mean hes good specialist coach and nothing else?
2. Is it just the best ruck combo and some very handy inside mids making him look good?
 

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As I've shown by the players Eade has had at his disposal, his rebuild was no less well resourced than Ratten's at Carlton and perhaps even better resourced in terms of players and facilities, so I question this being a reason to go for Eade.
OK, so let's assume that you're right (it contradicts your opinions elsewhere though. How could a team with stars such as Gibbs, Yarran and Hampson not be better resourced than the Bulldogs!) and that Eade and Ratten were similarly resourced. Why exactly is the guy who reached one semi final and 0 preliminary finals a better option than the guy who reached one semi final and 3 preliminary finals (and one GF at his previous club to add to that)?
 
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Nathan Eagleton a few days ago had an Eade/Cameron tag team as a dream team for Port.

Eago said Rocket gave guys a second chance, that would please some here with some players (Banner) and frustrate those same with others (list too long to mention)

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``When Rodney came to the Bulldogs, he gave everyone a clean slate,'' Eagleton said. ``He said he wanted to work with the list and see what he had - so he gave everyone an opportunity in his first year.
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