The Inevitable War - Keating goes bang

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I'm surprised the Ukrainians would be so keen to use cluster bombs and depleted uranium shells in their own country. It's almost like they don't give a s**t about the people living in those parts.

There are no goodies in this war, it needs to be wound up.
Almost as if they are fighting for their lives and freedom.

War does need to be ended, any suggestions about how to make Russia leave and pay reparations which is the only just result.

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Almost as if they are fighting for their lives and freedom.

War does need to be ended, any suggestions about how to make Russia leave and pay reparations which is the only just result.

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So I guess the war will last for years then. Great for the US and the arms manufacturers. Not so great for the Ukrainians.
 

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Yeah diplomacy is usually a huge success with dictators.

Give us what we want and we will go away.
So you want to push Russia completely out of Ukraine. How's that going to work and how long will it take?
 
The United States of America don't give a f**k about the Ukranian people. They are treating Ukraine as another Afghanistan and supplying arms and weapons to prolong the war as long as possible for three reasons: 1. To weaken the economy of Russia just as in Afghanistan. 2. It's great for the American Military arms manufacturers and therefore the American economy. 3. It's good for promoting the putrid lie that America is for freedom and democracy and the upholders of decency.

Cluster bombs are criminal, right up there with agent orange and to say that it's OK for the American's to supply cluster bombs to Ukraine makes us as bad as the terrorists.

NATO is an extension of American Foreign Policy and Keating is absolutely correct that they should not come within cooee of the Asia Pacific region. It is called NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and has absolutely no place in the Asia Pacific region.

NATO, or more to the point the USA, have played a major role in provoking Russia into invading Ukraine by the Americans and Europeans completely ignoring Russia's concerns over many years and that their feelings of being threatened and intimidated increased dramatically by NATO'S deployment of troops along the Russian border, the biggest deployment of troops along her borders since the Second World War. Then, the straw that broke the camel's back, Zelenskyy, the glove puppet of the far right and their international backers in the Ukrainian, said that they wanted to join NATO and Russia acted.

Please note, do not take this post as anything other than a cold assessment of the situation and not as a defence of Russia's invasion of Ukraine which I do not condone in any way.

I would remind people that the US, UK and Australia invaded Iraq on the grounds that Iraq was threatening their economic security and the stability of that region.
 
The United States of America don't give a f**k about the Ukranian people. They are treating Ukraine as another Afghanistan and supplying arms and weapons to prolong the war as long as possible for three reasons: 1. To weaken the economy of Russia just as in Afghanistan. 2. It's great for the American Military arms manufacturers and therefore the American economy. 3. It's good for promoting the putrid lie that America is for freedom and democracy and the upholders of decency.

Cluster bombs are criminal, right up there with agent orange and to say that it's OK for the American's to supply cluster bombs to Ukraine makes us as bad as the terrorists.

NATO is an extension of American Foreign Policy and Keating is absolutely correct that they should not come within cooee of the Asia Pacific region. It is called NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and has absolutely no place in the Asia Pacific region.

NATO, or more to the point the USA, have played a major role in provoking Russia into invading Ukraine by the Americans and Europeans completely ignoring Russia's concerns over many years and that their feelings of being threatened and intimidated increased dramatically by NATO'S deployment of troops along the Russian border, the biggest deployment of troops along her borders since the Second World War. Then, the straw that broke the camel's back, Zelenskyy, the glove puppet of the far right and their international backers in the Ukrainian, said that they wanted to join NATO and Russia acted.

Please note, do not take this post as anything other than a cold assessment of the situation and not as a defence of Russia's invasion of Ukraine which I do not condone in any way.

I would remind people that the US, UK and Australia invaded Iraq on the grounds that Iraq was threatening their economic security and the stability of that region.

Add to that I’m pretty sure war is not good for tackling climate issues. Never seems to be mentioned
 

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The United States of America don't give a f**k about the Ukranian people. They are treating Ukraine as another Afghanistan and supplying arms and weapons to prolong the war as long as possible for three reasons: 1. To weaken the economy of Russia just as in Afghanistan. 2. It's great for the American Military arms manufacturers and therefore the American economy. 3. It's good for promoting the putrid lie that America is for freedom and democracy and the upholders of decency.

Cluster bombs are criminal, right up there with agent orange and to say that it's OK for the American's to supply cluster bombs to Ukraine makes us as bad as the terrorists.

NATO is an extension of American Foreign Policy and Keating is absolutely correct that they should not come within cooee of the Asia Pacific region. It is called NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and has absolutely no place in the Asia Pacific region.

NATO, or more to the point the USA, have played a major role in provoking Russia into invading Ukraine by the Americans and Europeans completely ignoring Russia's concerns over many years and that their feelings of being threatened and intimidated increased dramatically by NATO'S deployment of troops along the Russian border, the biggest deployment of troops along her borders since the Second World War. Then, the straw that broke the camel's back, Zelenskyy, the glove puppet of the far right and their international backers in the Ukrainian, said that they wanted to join NATO and Russia acted.

Please note, do not take this post as anything other than a cold assessment of the situation and not as a defence of Russia's invasion of Ukraine which I do not condone in any way.

I would remind people that the US, UK and Australia invaded Iraq on the grounds that Iraq was threatening their economic security and the stability of that region.
You are not defending Russia's invasion but are listing all of Putins propaganda claims and laughable justifications as facts.

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How many times will it take people for people to stop believing the US lies and propaganda….?

Smith Mundt Act….
Why do otherwise very decent progressive people allow their hatred of the US and ( in some cases anglos more broadly) to colour their logic so much that they support the propaganda of vile dictators like Putin and Xi who are the antithesis of their own beliefs. No one is saying US is perfect but Putin is lying and twisting facts to justify his criminal invasion. As an example, NATOd largest build up on the border since ww2 - 4000 troops in response to requests from small nations terrified by Putins aggressive acts in comparison to Putins 330000 troops and his invasion of Crimea etc.

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Why do otherwise very decent progressive people allow their hatred of the US and ( in some cases anglos more broadly) to colour their logic so much that they support the propaganda of vile dictators like Putin and Xi who are the antithesis of their own beliefs. No one is saying US is perfect but Putin is lying and twisting facts to justify his criminal invasion. As an example, NATOd largest build up on the border since ww2 - 4000 troops in response to requests from small nations terrified by Putins aggressive acts in comparison to Putins 330000 troops and his invasion of Crimea etc.

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Do you seriously think the US is not a dictatorship? The US is not even a signature to the ICC….. hence they can commit War Crimes…
Until we hold our own governments to the standards we want other countries to obey, nothing will change.
 
Do you seriously think the US is not a dictatorship? The US is not even a signature to the ICC….. hence they can commit War Crimes…
Until we hold our own governments to the standards we want other countries to obey, nothing will change.
Come on mate. We're the goodies.
 

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