The Jamarra Thread

[cleveland]

Wonder why we could not sack him. Does this apply to all players in exactly the same position or only apply to players with the same background as Marra.

Indigenous number 1 pick etc.

 

[Pencil case]

Sure. But honestly, if we just put some ban on sharing mail if you ever get anything wrong, it’d be pretty boring.

There are a couple of very well regarded ITK posters here. They have at times shared mail which did not eventuate. It’s more likely than anything else that they were told something and that something changed. Or maybe just got a bit excited.

I get what you’re saying but my view is it makes this joint more interesting when it’s shared, as long as it isn’t some rando that made their account yesterday making shit up. Or crossing legal lines.

Totally fair - and it makes for interesting conversation. Just irks me when people are abusing the bloke. guess I don’t have to read this thread so that’s on me.

 

[doggybyte]

Is it time to try Marra at CHB?
It worked for Lobby and we don't want to upset the Darcy/Naughton super combo.

 

[ossie_21]

For his sake, I just hope he retires from AFL.

I just can’t see a situation where another club picks him up for nothing and he completely turns it around, when he can’t do it at the club right now.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

I don’t see how anyone can have an issue with how the club has handled this. Not talking about here, more so the media.

There’s only one bloke who comes out of this looking bad, and it’s the guy who rocked up to a final “disheveled”, has hardly trained all season and can’t even commit to a training block.

Surprised that Bont, Liber and co would even give him the time of day after the shit he dished up in that final.

Go back and listen to his podcast and tell me if that sounds like a guy who has accepted his actions.

 

[bresker]

Will the AFL sanction a move to another club in 2026? They have to put Marra's interests first surely. Though we are dealing with the organisation cares more about the 'look' of the game rather than player welfare, oftentimes .

 

[Mr. Walker]

Is it confirmed that he has not been training at all? If so how does the club justify continuing to pay him. Must be breach of contract.

 

[Sharkey66]

People are trying to understand and giving their opinions of how it "looks", without being given many solid facts. It "looks" to me as if he doesn't really want to play for us, or maybe at all, and perhaps another club would be willing to take a chance but expecting a complete about-face in attitude and commitment is somewhat risky. I think our club is finished with him but will be kind until he's gone.

I actually think the opposite.
I think he would love to play, just not interested in doing any of the hard work beforehand.
Wants the glory, without the effort.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I actually think the opposite.
I think he would love to play, just not interested in doing any of the hard work beforehand.
Wants the glory, without the effort.

Would he do the hard work at another club? I doubt it, if this is the problem.

 

[Sharkey66]

Would he do the hard work at another club? I doubt it, if this is the problem.

Agreed
End of the day some team will take a chance on him, Not sure he will take the chance and turn it around.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Is there any chance of the AFL stepping in & giving us a decent draft pick in the event he moves on ? Or is it just 'buyer beware' you get what another club is prepared to offer ?

Zero chance of compensation picks. Most they'd do is permission to sack him to get his money off our books.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

If the club wanted to sack him and the AFL would not let them, Marra coming back to training was just a charade and there was never a chance he was ever going to play with us.

 

[Fossie 32]

Oops ta

Anyway on the news I had the subtitles on and they stuck JUHs name in a segment on Trump and Putin

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Oops ta

Anyway on the news I had the subtitles on and they stuck JUHs name in a segment on Trump and Putin

I was only joking there were no photos .

But it did have your/a name.

 

[doggiesin08]

Zero chance of compensation picks. Most they'd do is permission to sack him to get his money off our books.

Should be back-dated as well for 2025 if we wanted to do it and were prevented in doing so. Obviously we then lose all rights to receiving anything in a trade or as compensation but I’d rather the $1.8m at the current rate.

 

[BrisDog]

Is it time to try Marra at CHB?
It worked for Lobby and we don't want to upset the Darcy/Naughton super combo.

He just needs to get to training first..

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I think all this talk about compensation etc. is a bit of a moot point because firstly we are being compensated to the fact that we're not having to pay his salary next year, even though all he had to do was turn up to training and we would have not been in a position to pay him less legally.

Others in this thread have pointed out we must have known something was brewing to only give him a two-year deal, to protect ourselves, despite him being in his absolute best form and other clubs nipping at him at the time.

Very reasonable we could be having these same more difficult discussions with two or three years left, and not one.

This sort of negotiated payout stuff happens all the time and the club is always on the hook because the players don't want to train.

We signed Travis Cloke to a two-year deal and by halfway through the first year and with a couple of injuries it was clear he was not going to be picked in the second year of his two-year deal for any AFL games, that is if he could even keep his body fit. But all he had to do was turn up to training, turn up to VFL games, and do the minimal rehab to his contract, and he would get paid. Obviously it's an easy way to make hundreds of thousands of dollars but at the same time Cloke would much rather play for a local club where he can have a beer after trianing and spend time with his family, so they agree on a middle price for him to retire.

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turned up to the first day of pre-season training and said "nup, this isn't for me anymore". He was on marginally more than a minimum contract ("veteran's minimum) if you want to call him that. He retired the next day and we gave him a small nominal payment, low five figures, representing the difference in payment to a literal first-year rookie and his upcoming salary, so the salary cap hit was identical for the fact we replaced his list spot with the SSP pick Anthony Scott.

We will be able to negotiate $0 for Jamarra rather than a negotiated payout which is a win in itself.

Lastly, and I've said this before, but I'm not even convinced Jamarra, despite his obvious talent, will ever prove to be a productive AFL contributer in the future. He might get games elsewhere, might even have the odd good game. But I also think that of a random rookie pick, and being away from the game for so long, not training, not being professional, struggling to train even for a team that he still has some affection for (he still likes the Bulldogs as a fan, as an institution), meaning what is going to be the motivating factor for the "Bloods culture" or whatever, I think that there's a very reasonable chance he flames out and never plays a positive value AFL game again, just like I think there's a 50% chance or whatever that an average pick 74 in the draft also never plays a positive value AFL game again (even if that pick 74 might turn out to be a future all-Australian, like Jamarra still could be a future All-Australian at Sydney or whatever).

 

[ScottyDogg]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan on how he is conquering mental health battles

There is renewed hope that Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could return to the AFL in the near future after the Western Bulldogs star opened up on his mental health demons - and how he is battling them

www.dailymail.co.uk

Did I miss this? Said he was in the cats rooms on game day

 

[BrisDog]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan on how he is conquering mental health battles

There is renewed hope that Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could return to the AFL in the near future after the Western Bulldogs star opened up on his mental health demons - and how he is battling them

www.dailymail.co.uk

Did I miss this? Said he was in the cats rooms on game day

'Luckily I've got a good support team around me now‘……

 

[JohnnySteel]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan on how he is conquering mental health battles

There is renewed hope that Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could return to the AFL in the near future after the Western Bulldogs star opened up on his mental health demons - and how he is battling them

www.dailymail.co.uk

Did I miss this? Said he was in the cats rooms on game day

It also said he has returned to the bulldogs in August saying he wants to stay?

 

[my plums]

Didn’t someone say we wouldn’t trade with Geelong anymore after the Bazlenka dealings? Comforts me somewhat. Couldn’t stomach Marra in that guernsey.

 

[dogwatch]

Didn’t someone say we wouldn’t trade with Geelong anymore after the Bazlenka dealings? Comforts me somewhat. Couldn’t stomach Marra in that guernsey.

It'll be an interesting off-season then if Geelong has already done the groundwork (aka white-anting) to get him. That's their standard modus operandi.

 

[my plums]

It'll be an interesting off-season then if Geelong has already done the groundwork (aka white-anting) to get him. That's their standard modus operandi.

Man they suck so much

 

[H Dolphin]

Jordan Croft kicking goals in the VFL.

 

[Dogs Ball]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan on how he is conquering mental health battles

There is renewed hope that Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could return to the AFL in the near future after the Western Bulldogs star opened up on his mental health demons - and how he is battling them

www.dailymail.co.uk

Did I miss this? Said he was in the cats rooms on game day

I didn't read that line about Geelong and rumours in the article that way. I read it as: there was a photo taken in Geelong's room and they tagged him to get his attention ... openly white anting.

"Rumours of him moving to Geelong intensified in late July after he was tagged in an Instagram photo taken in the Cats' dressing room on match day."