The Jamarra Thread

[Northernsoul74]

Hearing it might be curtains as early as this week for Jamarra at the dogs

I’m interested to understand what it means more broadly for his afl career. If he won’t fulfil the basics of his contract at the Dogs I’m not sure that he should get the opportunity to just start up somewhere else. Harsh I know, but he was drafted to us and is under contract. Slippery slope for the competition.
I also believe the afl has a duty to support rehab/treatment after he is de registered if that happens..

 

[grassman75]

I’m interested to understand what it means more broadly for his afl career. If he won’t fulfil the basics of his contract at the Dogs I’m not sure that he should get the opportunity to just start up somewhere else. Harsh I know, but he was drafted to us and is under contract. Slippery slope for the competition.
I also believe the afl has a duty to support rehab/treatment after he is de registered if that happens..

Agree. If he gets deregistered, there is no way he should be allowed to go to another side at the absolute minimum, the end of his current term. Therefore he can suit up in 2027 for someone else. However, he would need to go through the draft again, no just picking and choosing although it sounds like not many will take him

 

[cherrypie]

Rumour was floated around last night at the game that the saints had a private investigator follow him around at the time that we were shopping him around and then pulled the pin on their interest. Make of that what you will.

That came from Bigfooty. Think smileyboy posted it about 6 months ago

 

[W W Biscuit]

Rumour was floated around last night at the game that the saints had a private investigator follow him around at the time that we were shopping him around and then pulled the pin on their interest. Make of that what you will.

Now that's what I call a hard tag. Bevo, take note.

 

[doggiesin08]

If he is to be deregistered, then hopefully the AFL sanction us to terminate the contract without pay and the rest of the contract doesn’t fall within the cap.

Call me old school, but if you don’t show up to work and/or don’t fulfil your work duties as contractually required, then you don’t get paid and you shouldn’t be employed.

Yep, the best value we can get is the AFL agreeing to remove his $900k from the salary cap for 2025 and 2026. Even as a “non destination” club we should be able to use that $1.8m to land a free agent who’s notionally worth a first rounder and that’s the effective compo for Jamarra. There would be worse options than making a play for Oscar Allen if he only costs money and no picks.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Yep, the best value we can get is the AFL agreeing to remove his $900k from the salary cap for 2025 and 2026. Even as a “non destination” club we should be able to use that $1.8m to land a free agent who’s notionally worth a first rounder and that’s the effective compo for Jamarra. There would be worse options than making a play for Oscar Allen if he only costs money and no picks.

Happy to throw that money at Rowell or Butters. JUH out and one of those two in would actually be perfect for our list fit moving forward.

Silver linings….

 

[Shadesof54]

Agree. If he gets deregistered, there is no way he should be allowed to go to another side at the absolute minimum, the end of his current term. Therefore he can suit up in 2027 for someone else. However, he would need to go through the draft again, no just picking and choosing although it sounds like not many will take him

Spot on ,it disincentives' the next bloke who misbehaves or tries to get out of a contract ..tough rules but fair to all

 

[The Inbetweener]

Agree. If he gets deregistered, there is no way he should be allowed to go to another side at the absolute minimum, the end of his current term. Therefore he can suit up in 2027 for someone else. However, he would need to go through the draft again, no just picking and choosing although it sounds like not many will take him

If fairly certain if you are deregistered you can’t join an AFL team for 18 months, so I think he wouldn’t be able to play until 2027 at the earliest.

 

[doggiesin08]

Happy to throw that money at Rowell or Butters. JUH out and one of those two in would actually be perfect for our list fit moving forward.

Silver linings….

Yeah but you still have to trade for those guys so it’s not as simple an in-out comparison.

 

[Hobdog]

Long-term injury list and remainder of the year to undergo treatment?

 

[geoffjennings79]

We could do with a few more guys like this.

Well, at least one more...

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I know the swans have already backed out but last I heard there were still 3 other interstate teams interested. Wether or not he is willing to go interstate is another thing.

It would only be teams outside Melbourne that would be interested as you would think a prerequisite of any club believing that they can turn around his attitude would be to physically get him living somewhere new and away from his old friends though, so if he wants to continue his AFL career he may not have a choice

 

[Mojorisin]

It would only be teams outside Melbourne that would be interested as you would think a prerequisite of any club believing that they can turn around his attitude would be to physically get him living somewhere new and away from his old friends though, so if he wants to continue his AFL career he may not have a choice

He may not want to.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Jamarra wouldn't be deregistered.

The club thinks that it's done all it can with regard to treatment/fairness in managing his unique situations and are just referring it to the AFL to argue we've done what we can, we are in a legal position to terminate his contract as he is not fulfilling its terms (turning up to training).

AFL as a body is disagreeing with the Dogs which is fair enough as they've got to consider the precedent and how it influences the relationship with the AFLPA etc. and the AFL's defence is that they have access to treatment or cultural sensitivity discussions etc that the Dogs don't have yet (load of tosh but the AFL had to provide some justification for disagreeing with the Dogs). Practically though unless in the highly unlikely scenario Jamarra responds to whatever the AFL is doing it's just delaying how we can terminate his contract for the a few months.

Ironically and sadly I can see Jamarra getting his act together if and when the spigot of money gets turned off and he realises how much easier it is on a dollar for dollar basis to be an AFL player than any other profession in Australia (the same logic we successfully got through to Libba when we told him to go to a construction site post King St). The issue is that it won't be for the Dogs because by definition it cannot happen until after we've sacked him as a Dogs player.

Less than 15 games ago he was a key function and reason for some of the best football I have ever seen the Dogs or even any AFL team play when we beat premiership fancies, away, in Geelong, Sydney, Carlton. It is so disappointing to see what's changed.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

He may not want to.

Genuine question - what prospects does he have to earn money if he's not an AFL footballer?

It's not as if it's a Ryan Griffen going out pig shooting. His "mates" are the ones who love the fact that he has money and has the cultural cache of being a league footballer - going out, getting tats, spending money on expensive personal trainers - all cost money

 

[Wetdog]

If it is the worst for Darcy I’m happy for him to have my knee

Would that make him lopsided? If so, not interested!

Genuine question - what prospects does he have to earn money if he's not an AFL footballer?

It's not as if it's a Ryan Griffen going out pig shooting. His "mates" are the ones who love the fact that he has money and has the cultural cache of being a league footballer - going out, getting tats, spending money on expensive personal trainers - all cost money

I’m not going to comment on most of your two posts, as I do not know how accurate they are, but you do raise a good point.

I suspect given age and lack of life experience and perspective, most AFL footballers do not realise how difficult it is to earn, say, $150k a year in the “real world”, let alone $500k-$800k.

The penny would invariably drop at the end of their careers, or shortly thereafter, that it is not easy to make good coin, especially without an education and a network of contacts.

I’m not suggesting that playing AFL is an easy caper. It’s an achievement to just make it on a list, and moreso to play a game and then have a solid career.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Genuine question - what prospects does he have to earn money if he's not an AFL footballer?

It's not as if it's a Ryan Griffen going out pig shooting. His "mates" are the ones who love the fact that he has money and has the cultural cache of being a league footballer - going out, getting tats, spending money on expensive personal trainers - all cost money

We don't know who he's mixing with; perhaps he'll get offers from some other "field of business" ...
There are plenty of people out there making money who are not footballers.

 

[spindles11]

Would that make him lopsided? If so, not interested!

I’m the old fashioned “Collingwood 6 footer”. I’ll you be the judge on the lopsided-ness

 

[Rookie]

Of course we do.

His left glute and calf are weaker than the right so he leans left when he kicks. Requires ours of physio but he’s insisting on just trying to build a chest and doubling up on upper body weights.

Sounds like he needs to rehab it? But doesn't believe his left glute and calf need rehab?

 

[Anja_Nees]

Sounds like he needs to rehab it? But doesn't believe his left glute and calf need rehab?

They tried to make him go to rehab but he said no, no, no.

They’ve reached a compromise and he’s allowed to drink as much as he likes with whomever he likes and whenever he likes as long as any social media posts are from third party accounts and no his personal social media accounts.

Hamstring should resolve quickly with the above plan.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Would that make him lopsided? If so, not interested!



I’m not going to comment on most of your two posts, as I do not know how accurate they are, but you do raise a good point.

I suspect given age and lack of life experience and perspective, most AFL footballers do not realise how difficult it is to earn, say, $150k a year in the “real world”, let alone $500k-$800k.

The penny would invariably drop at the end of their careers, or shortly thereafter, that it is not easy to make good coin, especially without an education and a network of contacts.

I’m not suggesting that playing AFL is an easy caper. It’s an achievement to just make it on a list, and moreso to play a game and then have a solid career.

On the one hand you’re right that they are unlikely to earn that kind of money again.

On the other, their notoriety often opens doors for them. I know a bloke who worked in regional real estate with the former captain of an AFL club.

Thick as a brick and couldn’t close a sale but sat there on a good wicket for years because customers wanted to chat to him and the head of the firm was a supporter of his club.

Something tells me a guy like Jamarra could get a gig promoting a gym or something and (by the standards of the population) get reasonably well paid for it. Nothing like an AFL player’s wage and he’d probably torch it regardless.

 

[Sharkey66]

Legitimate question, is he actually any good at boxing?

 

[my plums]

Jamarra wouldn't be deregistered.

The club thinks that it's done all it can with regard to treatment/fairness in managing his unique situations and are just referring it to the AFL to argue we've done what we can, we are in a legal position to terminate his contract as he is not fulfilling its terms (turning up to training).

AFL as a body is disagreeing with the Dogs which is fair enough as they've got to consider the precedent and how it influences the relationship with the AFLPA etc. and the AFL's defence is that they have access to treatment or cultural sensitivity discussions etc that the Dogs don't have yet (load of tosh but the AFL had to provide some justification for disagreeing with the Dogs). Practically though unless in the highly unlikely scenario Jamarra responds to whatever the AFL is doing it's just delaying how we can terminate his contract for the a few months.

Ironically and sadly I can see Jamarra getting his act together if and when the spigot of money gets turned off and he realises how much easier it is on a dollar for dollar basis to be an AFL player than any other profession in Australia (the same logic we successfully got through to Libba when we told him to go to a construction site post King St). The issue is that it won't be for the Dogs because by definition it cannot happen until after we've sacked him as a Dogs player.

Less than 15 games ago he was a key function and reason for some of the best football I have ever seen the Dogs or even any AFL team play when we beat premiership fancies, away, in Geelong, Sydney, Carlton. It is so disappointing to see what's changed.

I knew they did something like this with Libba. Would be interesting to see JUH’s response if they did something similar with him?

 

[Mojorisin]

Genuine question - what prospects does he have to earn money if he's not an AFL footballer?

It's not as if it's a Ryan Griffen going out pig shooting. His "mates" are the ones who love the fact that he has money and has the cultural cache of being a league footballer - going out, getting tats, spending money on expensive personal trainers - all cost money

The money will dry up, his "mates" will move on to the next cash cow and Marra will be left to pick up the pieces. It's how these things usually go.

 

[Freshwater]

The Sam Darcy situation makes not one iota of a difference in whether Jamarra wants to come back or not. I don’t get how any of the media commentators that mentioned this even thought about it for more than half a second.