The Jamarra Thread

[Mutt]

I posted twice at 7.10am and 7.11am on two seperate points. Every single other post was a response to being quoted.

So there is a daily limit on posts per thread per day when others quote you, you cannot respond. Got it

Read the room Doggies.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

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Great person for Marra to be hanging out with. Just good, honest, hard working business owners

 

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This guy with a lambo or Bont with his milk bar?

 

[Bulldogs85]

 

[JohnnySteel]

We are all rooting for a fairytale Marra comeback story. Hopefully the positivity continues & that becomes possible with us.

 

[dergert]

Nice of the scumbag to come out of hiding.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Nice of the scumbag to come out of hiding.

Wouldn’t believe a single word coming from that prick

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

We are all rooting for a fairytale Marra comeback story. Hopefully the positivity continues & that becomes possible with us.

Has he burnt too many bridges though? How welcome would he really be?

 

[JohnnySteel]

Has he burnt too many bridges though? How welcome would he really be?

Who knows - things can change very quickly. I’m sure if he came back did all the right things, he could work on building that trust back. But you’d imagine it’d take a lot of work to get to that stage.

 

[Thunderoad]

I didn't listen to the interview and there's nothing in the article but did Connors say anything about the patience the club has shown towards his client or the fact that we continue to pay him even though he has stopped training with the club entirely?

 

[Mojorisin]

Who knows. I’m sure if he came back did all the right things, he could work on building that trust back. But you’d imagine it’d take a lot of work.

Respect is earned not given, so he definitely will have to work twice as hard to prove himself but anything is possible.

 

[Doggstats]

I wonder when and how JUH's relationship "broke down" with the Bont as the media has declared.

Because during the off season their relationship looked fine as JUH and Harmesy helped laying concrete and such at Bont's new coffee shop.

 

[Bulldogs85]

I didn't listen to the interview and there's nothing in the article but did Connors say anything about the patience the club has shown towards his client or the fact that we continue to pay him even though he has stopped training with the club entirely?

I also didn’t listen to the interview so I didn’t know if Connors mentioned the club

 

[The White Mouse]

Seems to place a significant emphasis on individual  branding in a team environment.

Could this guy be part of the problem?

Don't bother. It's rhetorical.

 

[X_box_X]

Has he burnt too many bridges though? How welcome would he really be?

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

 

[Iamspock]

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

What a lovely scenario, not sure if will / could pan out this way, we can only dream.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

That almost sounds like a political campaign from the JUH Party. “I have seen the light! Vote for me,”

Even before this furore, did he meet all those commitments, show such glowing signs of leadership and saintliness?

Then and now he’s just a nice, mixed-up boy without a clear vision of his way forward in life. The expectations on him were clearly too much for him to handle so he’s retreated from them.

I don’t think enlightenment will suddenly strike him like a thunderbolt, showing him the error of his ways and that glory awaits. It could be a long struggle and he may choose the easy path of turning his back on the very public world of the AFL and the hard work and commitment it demands.

Or he may decide to give footy another shot and then there will be the usual obligations to fulfill, which you have listed above. I’m sure that in time , when they can see he’s making a sincere effort and undergoing all the same conditions and setbacks as they are, the players will accept him. They are young and forgiving.

 

[BEaston]

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

Steps 4 and 5 happen way too quickly IMO.

Getting to Step 4 from Step 3 will be many, many months I think.

I'm not sure on when would be best for him to front up to the players. I could see it being beneficial that he does it up front once he decides he wants to commit to rehabilitation of himself, and his role in the club. He then goes away and works on that (a process that will take months IMO) - before he steps back into the club into the playing group (ie training, etc not necessarily actually playing games).
Alternatively it could be once he's feels ready to return to the playing group as you lay out above.

But either way, he's not going to be ready to return for a long time is my read on it.

 

[cleveland]

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

Sorry for laughing. Don't think this happens

 

[stefoid]

Its a footy club. If he trains his arse off and plays great footy, all will be right.

 

[AFDogs]

Its a footy club. If he trains his arse off and plays great footy, all will be right.

Agreed.

Will be forgotten about in 2-3 years if he comes back and plays well. If he doesn't, he'll end up on a lot of 'What could've been' forum discussions.

 

[bobs head soup]

The only way I possibly see forward for Jamarra is to take this season off for counselling and getting whatever help he can to properly get himself right.

If he really wants a shot at it, turn up day one of preseason. Return humble and make every session without fail.

Maybe a quick group address, but no flashy promises, just work hard.

By the time of practice matches, trust can be rebuilt.

The odds of this happening appear almost impossible, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

JUH has a long way to go, let’s just take it one step at a time.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The more I think about this situation the more it feels like Jamarrah considers this to be his gap year.

But instead of doing as I and countless others have done before we become somewhat fully formed adults by debauching our way through foreign climes. He's doing much the same but in the full glare of a nonplussed football club, media pack and the insatiable appetite of people who cant wrap their head around how he seems on the precipice of throwing it all away.

The last of which dont seem to be able to factor in the reality that he just may not want it enough.

It shouldn't really come as a surprise that a guy who has spent most of his life on a rail towards being a professional footballer. Should at some point rebel against it and take time to assess whether or not he actually wants to spend the rest of his life actually doing that. Or whether he should leave it all behind and become a footnote in a very long line of unfulfilled talent lost to the game for the quiet life of a jobbing civilian where in time nobody cares what he does or who he does it with. Like the rest of us.

The only thing that seems certain is that the ball is now entirely in his court.

Id still bank on his returning to the game.

Whether thats at the Bulldogs or not remains too be seen.

 

[BrisDog]

A scenario. I'm keen on your thoughts.

1. JUH tells his management team that he is committed to the WB and motivated to being the best possible player he can be in the AFL for as long as his body and mind allows him.

2. His management team provides an update to Baines, Watson-Wheeler, Bevo & Luke Darcy that his client is committed to playing out his career for the WB at a highly professional standard.

3. A discussion is held between JUH's management team and the key four figures mentioned above about the next steps involved in allowing JUH to return through the front doors of Whitten Oval.

4. With all his teammates and coaches in the Whitten Oval auditorium, Bevo addresses the room and provides them with an update in relation to the positive steps forward JUH has taken. He briefly touches on the conversations he's had with JUH's management team.

5. With JUH waiting outside behind closed doors, Bevo invites the former #1 draft pick into the room. This is likely to be welcomed with a round of applause.

6. JUH then addresses his teammates and coaches, firstly taking ownership of his previous poor work ethic. He explains he now realises how much everyone in this room means to him, how much the footy club means to him, and how much he loves being an AFL player at the Bulldogs. He mentions that he realises he will have to earn back any respect he has lost and will be super motivated to earn that respect back.

7. JUH not only returns to committing himself to every training session, functions, social events, etc, but he works his ass of like he has never done previously. He does extras. He even becomes a role model for the first and second year players. Takes the time to provide them with feedback and advice even in his own time. He shows that he cares for his younger teammates and this can simply be messaging them after a game, congratulating them on a great performance and telling them that he's proud of them. He even limits his social media use and most definitely doesn't post or upload anything controversial again.

I'm almost certain that if it plays out like that, any burnt bridges that may currently exist will be rebuilt.

While the above may seem unlikely, it's certainly possible. We can only hope.

And then JUH kicks 180 goals for the remainder of this year and kicks the winning goal in the Grand Final after the siren.

He then receives a phone call from President Trump whom he describes JUH as ‘a great guy’.