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Putting Ellie's own curiosity about potential vaccines/cures aside, how would we as viewers envision that working?

The big immunity angle in the games relates to the airborne spores. That walking into a room could literally kill you via infection before you even knew you were breathing them in.

They took that out of the show so I always wonder what they think they are curing/preventing?

These monsters are ripping limbs off and biting chunks out of people's bodies. That the fungus takes control of the dead body afterwards is largely irrelevant when it comes to a vaccine.

So what are we meant to think the doctor was trying to create in the show's universe?

Ellie's immunity and that it could save humanity is a big deal. Huge. As big as it gets in a show.

But it doesn't really enter her thoughts. She doesn't even consider her own community with her actions. She remains a bratty teenage girl that does stupid stuff that puts people around her at risk. Joel's death was great drama but it leaves a vacuum of someone who saw the bigger picture and was conflcted by his personal feelings for her. And now the show lacks their father daughter dynamic.

I can't comment on the game but the show has been consistent that you get infected by a bite or a scratch. I don't think it brings dead people back to life like in the Walking Dead. Abby's father was planning to operate on Ellie's brain that would have killed her. It's good for drama but not realistic how science would work. How about some blood tests? A vaccine or antifungal medications are possible but you don't kill your only immune subject.
 
Sticking very close to the story line is working for me. Really enjoying this season. Much more than the first.

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Do you think the character in the cold opening was

Maybe the HBO changed her role up, so she can give context for the rest of the episode - “spores in the air” rather than just have Ellie kill her and that’s it.
 

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Do you think the character in the cold opening was

Maybe the HBO changed her role up, so she can give context for the rest of the episode - “spores in the air” rather than just have Ellie kill her and that’s it.


Smart who ever made that call, gave the episode a nice dread to start with
 
Good ep indeed, quite enjoyed it once it got going.

I agree with an earlier posted sentiment that Isabela Merced is almost distractingly beautiful, but gee her acting is on point.

And yes the same can be said of Bella's acting. The immature wise-cracking Ellie can be a bit grating sometimes, but when she goes full blown angry and determined Ellie, Bella IMO really brings out that game version of Ellie very well. I thought some of her expressions were even incredibly similar.
 
Yeah nah..loved the first series and this one so far was good but I feel like it’s lost some impetus since Joel.

No idea what happens going forward as not a gamer but I wish she’d lose the guitars..another corny song and to quote Terry Wallace ..I’ll spew up!! Hopefully last couple of eps set up for next big gripping story line.
 
Yeah nah..loved the first series and this one so far was good but I feel like it’s lost some impetus since Joel.

No idea what happens going forward as not a gamer but I wish she’d lose the guitars..another corny song and to quote Terry Wallace ..I’ll spew up!! Hopefully last couple of eps set up for next big gripping story line.

Not sure if they will show it in flashbacks but re: the guitar

Teaching Ellie to play the guitar was the one parenting thing that Joel kinda nailed. For all their tension, playing together kinda hit 'pause' on the world outside for the both of them and helped them connect.

Ellie sitting in these moments and playing the songs he taught her is the other side of the coin in dealing with her trauma.

She could keep pushing for vengeance but she could also just go home and lose herself in the music.

I won't say too much but her story ties into the guitar lessons in a big way in the game.
 

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Not sure if they will show it in flashbacks but re: the guitar

Teaching Ellie to play the guitar was the one parenting thing that Joel kinda nailed. For all their tension, playing together kinda hit 'pause' on the world outside for the both of them and helped them connect.

Ellie sitting in these moments and playing the songs he taught her is the other side of the coin in dealing with her trauma.

She could keep pushing for vengeance but she could also just go home and lose herself in the music.

I won't say too much but her story ties into the guitar lessons in a big way in the game.
Well ok then. Couldn't Joel have taught her some rock/heavy rock/punk songs?
 
Bit of AC/DC you reckon?
As long as it was Bon Scott era Acca. Dirty Deeds or just imagine her doing intro to Metallica's Enter Sandman. Gamers would've gone off their heads
 

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Btw, I wonder when Ellie found out what Joel had done?
Flashbacks will tell that story next ep

Very much enjoying this season, good to see Ellie get angry.
 
Yeah nah..loved the first series and this one so far was good but I feel like it’s lost some impetus since Joel.

No idea what happens going forward as not a gamer but I wish she’d lose the guitars..another corny song and to quote Terry Wallace ..I’ll spew up!! Hopefully last couple of eps set up for next big gripping story line.

Yep I’m in this Camp

A huge let down so far this season, and not a gamer
 
Great episode, has really moved the story forward. Only one episode left for the season is a bit disappointed. I wish there was more. :(

So good to see Tony Dalton (Lalo Salamanca) at the beginning of the episode. :D
 
Larry Shrug GIF by Curb Your Enthusiasm
 

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It followed the video game, except the flashbacks were all done back to back in the episode. In the video game, the flashbacks were spread out. One flashback, present day, next flashback, present day etc. That episode got them all in the same episode, which I feel is better to just show present day stuff now.
 
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