Some have and Some have not. Generation ago things were more fluid than there are now.
Based on what? you have some statistics that prove that? You have measured everyone in the countries's live choices and how hard they worked? Define Good income.
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Some have and Some have not. Generation ago things were more fluid than there are now.
Based on what? you have some statistics that prove that? You have measured everyone in the countries's live choices and how hard they worked? Define Good income.
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How about you finaly reveal who these hard working people are that dont have money?
People who don't have much money just make bad choices such as wasting there education.
My dad has had to fire so many lazy people, some cant go 1 week without taking a sick day. No employer is going to pay these people good money. On the other hand people who work hard for him sre on 6 figure salaries.
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If you make businesses poorer than you decrease the demand for workers .
You have obviously never had to pay wages or run a business ever .
Small and medium size business do not have a steady cash flow , they often go through periods where they don't make enough revenue to cover expenses and have to go into their savings to pay wages which comes from profits .
Large businesses will just simply take capital out of Australia and invest it in other countries were taxes are lower .
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Bill shorten answered the question about private school funding well .
" Parents who send their children to private schools are entitled to have some of the money they pay in taxes spent on their child's education "
If you care about quality education and want a balanced budget why would you punish parents who on top of paying taxes invest additional money in their child's education and saving the taxpayer money while rewarding parents who spend nothing on their child's education and cost the tax payer significant amounts of money ?
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You have the most simplistic worldview I have encountered on these forums.
Even talking about how well 'Asians' are doing shows how simplistic you look at things.
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They are not doing very well at school ?
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Who? Asians? Who exactly are you talking about?
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Asians , they are often at the top of the class . In the US Asian men earn more than white men .
Hard work gets results .
Yeah, I used to be against government funding for private schools and private healthcare, but you've convinced me of the logic of doing this. I don't agree with s**t like Foxtel getting $30 million from the government, though. Pay TV isn't as important as healthcare and education is. I do agree that parents who invest more in their children's future should be rewarded for that.
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What the actual *?? Explain this please.
Yes, people should not waste their education.
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The better the choices you make the more money you make .
Do well at school , study something that pays well , get a job and work hard . Simple really .
That's true if you live somewhere where there's opportunities, but to be fair I understand the argument that you could just move if your location is economically dead. As for doing well, unfortunately parents have a lot of influence. If your parents don't really place much value on education and work, or distrust the system for some reason, you're more likely to do as they do. The mindset, "Well they didn't so why should I?" sets in. Hard to combat. Also, I don't think schools do enough to empower people. Specifically, they aren't like Montessori where kids learn the basics and are encouraged to pursue their interests and learn within the contexts of their interests wherever possible (i.e. if a kid really likes basketball they may be encouraged to learn English by reading about basketball players). You've gotta admit it's an interesting idea. If you think that universities, for example, are too Marxist, then maybe students should be instead encouraged to read and write about political and economic theories they're interested in.
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What you are saying is that some parents give their children a better opportunity to be successful than others and I agree . However from a government point of view everyone is given equal opportunity .
But you have nothing to back this up. This is solely your opinion.
Why do you care about the poor? You say that they only have themselves to blame? Why bother posting sin this thread at all.
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Because I want to give them as much opportunity as possible to create enough wealth for themselves to live a good comfortable life .
People like yourself are trying to convince the poor they are poor and will always be poor because the system is unfair . That is rubbish they just need to make some good life choices .
No they didnt.
Even if you factor in the insignificant welfare cuts they tried to enact for the headlines, they are still running up record deficits and debt.
But at this point I dont think youre lying, I think youv'e just been douped. I'd encourage you to look into this further, for your own sake.
No no no.
The NBN is absolutely key to the future prosperity to this country. No high speed downloads of tv and music and we will be back in stone age quicker than you can say Fred Flinstone.
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Anyhow, have a Winfield 25.
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To some extent taxation is about wealth and income redistribution.
It is what democratic progressive societies do.
10% of the population pays tax, 100% of the population benefits from taxes.
Progressive. Almost as twisted in meaning these days as liberal
There is nothing progressive about penal rates of tax.
Then again i guess if you are a massive benefactor of such taxes and contribute two thirds of stuff all i suppose you would have another view if you were a particularly selfish individual.
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I feel incredibly stupider for reading this thread.
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Everyone should live the way gc26 does, then the world would be just perfect.
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I think the trick is to be born to wealthy parents, and it's probably your own fault if you're not. I take no issue with being born with a silver spoon in your gob, some people are lucky, it's just a shame his ended up in the wrong hole.
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Of course.
It has the added bonus of enabling you to lecture others on how to live their lives and to sermonize about issues of which you have no understanding (eg poverty).
