The Liberal Party - How long? - Part 2

[schneebly111]

The West Australian described it as "Ley throwing down the gauntlet to Labor over energy prices".

The West is 100% behind the fossil fuel lobby on this. Jeez even the Australian at least had one opinion piece from a Liberal “moderate” trying to warn about how they can’t form heightens without appealing to city voters.

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Was never a great fan of the man, but what exactly was his likeability problem based on?

He was a below average media performer and a not much of a politician.
He's a back room man

I think it's going to be interesting to see how history stacks Shorten up against the other Coalition and Labor leaders who took their parties to an election but never became PM. Thinking about the list, there's Dutton, Crean, Beazley, Hewson, Peacock... I think Shorten's banked a lot of credits post 2019 and post 2022.

Latham.

Shorten was a decent minister I agree

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

The Australian pretending the LNP actually has a policy


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Oh they have a policy alright.

Their policy is saying they have a policy.

Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[QuietB]

Oh they have a policy alright.

Their policy is saying they have a policy.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Is endless pissing and moaning a policy?

 

[Forward Press]

The West is 100% behind the fossil fuel lobby on this. Jeez even the Australian at least had one opinion piece from a Liberal “moderate” trying to warn about how they can’t form heightens without appealing to city voters.

It has been decidedly conservative since about 30 years ago.

Fortunately it appears the electorate isn't reading it any more.

 

[jim boy]

It has been decidedly conservative since about 30 years ago.

Fortunately it appears the electorate isn't reading it any more.

That is the way of the commercial media - where twenty years ago, people read the print media be default, now the media companies have to drive people to read the media - and they do so by 'outrage'

 

[The Punter]

What’s the policy to bring down costs????? lol I’ll wait fur your response.

The energy policy is to not pursue emissions reduction at any cost. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good policy, but to criticise them for the policy and not having a policy at the same time is just criticising them for their mere existence.

Apologies if my response is not satisfactorily furry.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The energy policy is to not pursue emissions reduction at any cost.

Yep, that's exactly what it is.

 

[nut]

The energy policy is to not pursue emissions reduction at any cost. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good policy, but to criticise them for the policy and not having a policy at the same time is just criticising them for their mere existence.

Apologies if my response is not satisfactorily furry.

Your response is nothing … like the Libs policy. Yes they are just existing… just opposing science and mathematics for a point of difference… it’s just dumb.
There is no policy.

Renewables is the cheapest form of new generation… so explain to me how they will bring down prices with out encouraging investments in renewables?

 

[RedOrWhite]

Oh they have a policy alright.

Their policy is saying they have a policy.

Move along, nothing to see here.

This guy did an excellent video on it. It also addresses The Punter's post

 

[Festerz]

A reminder of what a spectacular backflip this has been for Sussan Ley and the Liberals.

 

[Festerz]

And...

 

[schneebly111]

For Sky the dropping of Net Zero wasn’t enough. They want a full withdrawal form the Paris Agreement

 

[schneebly111]

The energy policy is to not pursue emissions reduction at any cost.

That’s not a policy. That’s just negative statement. There’s no plans about what sources they will use, what targets they plan to have, what the costings will be.

They couldn’t even say what the price reduction will be under their “policy”. They even said they are “agnostic” about what tech should be used. The “I dunno” policy.

Of course we know behind the scenes it’ll just be subsidies for coal and gas, they won’t say it publicly (Canavan has).

 

[QuietB]

For Sky the dropping of Net Zero wasn’t enough. They want a full withdrawal form the Paris Agreement

And this is exactly the problem - everything would not even be enough.

 

[Cyg1992]

Sky and the loon faction of the coalition just want the LNP to be a cork on a string hat version of trumps maga and little else.

 

[schneebly111]

And this is exactly the problem - everything would not even be enough.

Barnaby wants existing solar panels and wind turbines pulled down.

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Barnaby wants existing solar panels and wind turbines pulled down.

Fair enough too.
Have you ever tried looking at a wind turbine when you have a blood alcohol reading of .31

It's enough to send you to sleep in a pot plant

 

[RedOrWhite]

Fair enough too.
Have you ever tried looking at a wind turbine when you have a blood alcohol reading of .31

It's enough to send you to sleep in a pot plant

If he ever crashed his car while drink driving he'd blame it on the wind turbines for sure

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Zoe Daniel on the dangerous lies being peddled by the COALition because they can’t get into government via honest means:

The Coalition is spinning a lie that climate action is economically bad. How are they getting away with it? | Zoe Daniel

In this post-truth environment, the interests of coal and gas are somehow able to win the hearts and minds of voters

www.theguardian.com

 

[Festerz]

Barnaby wants existing solar panels and wind turbines pulled down.

Fair enough too.
Have you ever tried looking at a wind turbine when you have a blood alcohol reading of .31

Yep. Barnaby is the Don Quixote of our times.



'Tilting at Windmills'

 

[nut]

Imagine going to war against renewables that are offering 4 hours of free power a day!!!!!
With 110,000 home batteries just since July, more EVs etc,,, Vehicle to grid uptake starting go get momentum…
Wholesale prices falling…. This is not the issue they want to fight for. Absolute idiots.

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[schneebly111]

Imagine going to war against renewables that are offering 4 hours of free power a day!!!!!
With 110,000 home batteries just since July, more EVs etc,,, Vehicle to grid uptake starting go get momentum…
Wholesale prices falling…. This is not the issue they want to fight for. Absolute idiots.

FOUR4FREE | GloBird Energy

Binge Electricity, with 4 hours FREE everyday with this awesome energy plan.

www.globirdenergy.com.au

It doesn’t get spoken about much in national media but in WA the uptake of rooftop solar is so much more than expected that the state government will turn off the only coal powered station earlier than scheduled.

 

[Festerz]

A long time until the next Federal election but this is a sharp decline to come back from…

 

[Grin]

Good. This shit stain of a party can take its hatred of women, young people, the poor, Indigenous Australians, first generation Australians, future generations of Australians etc. and soon be consigned to the dustbin of history. What a disgrace. I'm surprised they've even got 20% support, with the Nats on a miserable 4%, with a good proportion of stupid, mean, whinging, whining, Australia hating boomers moving to One Nation.