Resource The list your Ken Hinkley Era Stats Thread

[Coobk001]

By the end of this season, Hinkley will be

1st most games coached, at a single club, to have not made a GF - By 30+ games.
1st most games coached, at a single club, to have not won a premiership - by 17/18+ games
2nd most games coached, all time, to have not made a GF. Note: 24 games (1 final) he will move to equal 2nd, 25 = outright 2nd.
6th most games coached, all time, to have not won a premiership. If we play 24 games he will move to equal 6th, 25 = outright 6th.

 

[Coobk001]

Really love this stat I saw today, haven't had the time to back it up.

"His vaunted 57% career win% includes a 30-3 record against the Suns/Saints/Roos"

 

[chiwigi]

16.7% record v Geelong

 

[Powerade 08]

• Ranked 1st among rising star nominees for Goals Per Game in 1987
• Ranked 5th in Total Kicks in 1991
• HNFL Leading goalkicker 1983

 

[Coobk001]

That got me curious so I went and looked it up.

FINALS WINS 2015 - 2022
Teams	Wins
Richmond	10​
Geelong	9​
GWS	7​
West Coast	7​
Bulldogs	7​
Collingwood	5​
Melbourne	5​
Sydney	5​
Adelaide	4​
Brisbane	3​
Hawthorn	3​
Fremantle	2​
North Melbourne	2​
Port	2​
St Kilda	1​
Carlton
Essendon
Gold Coast

Too good not to add here.

 

[Coobk001]

Hinkley has the 4th highest winning percentage of all current coaches, yet when you compare him to those around it's a stark contrast. Winning minor round games and having the equal worst 'make finals' percentage out of the lot.

4th - Hinkley, 0 GF's, 0 Flags, 3 prelims, 5/10 finals series

1st - McRae is new but on track for 100% finals series and prelims.
2nd - Scott, 3 GF's, 2 Flags, 8 Prelims, 11/12 final series
3rd - Longmire, 4 GF's, 1 Flag, 5 prelims, 10/12 finals
5th - Clarkson, 5 GF's, 4 Flags, 6 prelims, 10/17 finals
6th - Lyon, 4 GF's, 0 Flags (1 draw), 5 prelims, 8/13 finals
7th - Goodwin, 1 GF, 1 Flag, 2 prelims, 3/6 finals
8th - Simpson, 2 GF's, 1 Flag, 2 prelims, 6/9 finals
9th - Hardwick, 3 GF's, 3 Flags, 4 prelims, 8/13 Finals


Goodwin will make it 4/7 finals this year, which would make Hinkley outright last in making finals percentage, even if Hinkley makes the finals.

 

[Coobk001]

11 teams have played in GF's in Hinkleys tenure. 12 since we last made a GF.
14 have played in prelims
We rank equal 12th for finals wins since 2015.

 

[tribey]

Remember 2012?!

Just the 2 premierships and 2 silver medals amongst the only clubs that finished below us that year.

 

[Doctor Feel]

View attachment 1657596

Remember 2012?!

Just the 2 premierships and 2 silver medals amongst the only clubs that finished below us that year.

lol we are GC with some more H&A wins

 

[Coobk001]

View attachment 1657596

Remember 2012?!

Just the 2 premierships and 2 silver medals amongst the only clubs that finished below us that year.

4 GF's and 2 premierships amongst them

 

[Alberton Proud]

Really love this stat I saw today, haven't had the time to back it up.

"His vaunted 57% career win% includes a 30-3 record against the Suns/Saints/Roos"

This deserves a good run on all the socials !

 

[Coobk001]

This is great. Have never thought of it this way.

After 11 seasons, Hinkley's claim to fame is winning 2 Qualifying Finals and 1 Semi Final

 

[finbarr]

He's such a pathetic loser.

 

[Contested Marx]

He's such a pathetic loser.

He's such a loser if he entered a fluffers competition he'd not even make it to the semis

 

[FutureShock]

This deserves a good run on all the socials !

Never liked Grant Thomas much, but now I wish he had a more prominent role on the AFL TV panel shows to provide a counterpoint to the infuriatingly fawning Hinkley media cheer squads.

 

[sobrave]

not strictly a ken hinkley stat, but hinkley adjacent.

Big boy Charlie Dixon

22

Charlie Dixon

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

10.5

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.5

2star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.5

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

has kicked less goals for port than Chad Wingard

20

Chad Wingard

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.5

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

not strictly a ken hinkley stat, but hinkley adjacent.

Big boy Charlie Dixon has kicked less goals for port than Chad Wingard.

Dixon averages more goals per game though

 

[GremioPower]

Port (1997-2022)
Minor Round

a. Premiers, 4
b. Top-4, 7 (26.9%)
c. 5-8, 5 (19.2%)
d. Midtable, 11 (42.3%)
e. Bot-4, 3 (11.5%)
f. WS, 0

—

First Decade (1997-2006)
Minor Round

a. Premiers, 3
b. Top-4, 4
c. 5-8, 2
d. Midtable, 3
e. Bot-4, 1
f. WS, 0


Hinkley Decade (2013-2022)
Minor Round

a. Premiers, 1 (-2)
b. Top-4, 2 (-2)
c. 5-8, 3 (+1)
d. Midtable, 5 (+2)
e. Bot-4, 0 (-1)
f. WS, 0

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The close ones under Hinkley. We are playing finals this year. Or Hinkley gets sacked in August.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I posted this on another thread but I should have put it here.
Please note - I might have a few missing. I don't know whether it is perfect.

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making a Grand Final consecutively.

242 - Ken Hinkley - Port Adelaide Power
211 - Brad Scott - North Melbourne Kangaroos
166 - Neil Craig - Adelaide Cows
154 - Chris Fagan - Brisbane Lions
149 - Dean Laidley - West Coast Eagles
148 - Terry Wallace - Western Bulldogs
129 - Chris Connolly - Fremantle Dockers
123 - Grant Thomas - St Kilda Saints
113 - Danny Frawley - Richmond Tigers
99 - Terry Wallace - Richmond Tigers
98 - Neil Balme - Melbourne Demons

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making a Preliminary Final consecutively.

120 - Brett Ratten

Brett Ratten

Age

52

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

- Carlton Blues
115 - Bill Stephen - Fitzroy Lions
109 - Michael Voss - Brisbane Lions

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making any Finals.

121 - Stuart Dew

Stuart Dew

Age

44

Ht

183cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

- Gold Coast Suns

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I posted this on another thread but I should have put it here.
Please note - I might have a few missing. I don't know whether it is perfect.

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making a Grand Final consecutively.

234 - Ken Hinkley - Port Adelaide Power
211 - Brad Scott - North Melbourne Kangaroos
166 - Neil Craig - Adelaide Cows
149 - Dean Laidley - West Coast Eagles
148 - Terry Wallace - Western Bulldogs
146 - Chris Fagan - Brisbane Lions
129 - Chris Connolly - Fremantle Dockers
123 - Grant Thomas - St Kilda Saints
113 - Danny Frawley - Richmond Tigers
99 - Terry Wallace - Richmond Tigers
98 - Neil Balme - Melbourne Demons

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making a Preliminary Final consecutively.

120 - Brett Ratten - Carlton Blues
115 - Bill Stephen - Fitzroy Lions
109 - Michael Voss - Brisbane Lions

This is the list of coaches who have coached the most amount of games without making any Finals.

115 - Stuart Dew - Gold Coast Suns

Bill Stephen coached at Fitzroy in the 1950s and 60s when they were hopeless then Essendon in the 70s, and then back to Fitzroy in 1979-80 and coached in 258 games and no GF. He had a win % of just under 33%.

Terry Wallace is 247 games at 2 clubs and no GF.

AFL Tables - Coaches

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Bill Stephen coached at Fitzroy in the 1950s and 60s when they were hopeless then Essendon in the 70s, and then back to Fitzroy in 1979-80 and coached in 258 games and no GF. He had a win % of just under 33%.

Terry Wallace is 247 games at 2 clubs and no GF.

AFL Tables - Coaches

I didn't quite make myself clear in explaining the coaching stats I have laid down.
These coaching stats are not based on the overall number of games a coach has coached over their career without a preliminary final.

I was interested in the amount of games a club an administration would get to before they pulled the pin on a particular coach without some type of finals success. So it is about a run of games at a club not their overall career if that makes sense.

Like you said, Bill Stephen coached the hapless Fitzroy Boys three times and also Essendon. I am not interested in the overall games coached but the amount of games during one stay at a club before he got the Lemonade and Sars. So Bill Stephen coached Fitzroy for 53 games and left, came back and coached them for 115 games, went to Essendon for 44 games and then back for a short stint with Fitzroy for 46 games.

You will see Terry Wallace twice on the list that equals to the 247 games overall.

The stats are more of an indictment on poor administration than poor coaching.
That is why it is quite embarrassing to see Ken Hinkley way on top.
It shows the poor administration of Koch to allow this poor coaching to continue to fester.
That it is quite abnormal for a coach without some level of finals success to go past 150 games.

The coaches in bold are those still coaching.

 

[Vagabond0]

So after losing the first 3, with last night's effort Nick's now at 3-4 head to head with Kenny.

Vossy 2-0.

Master and his apprentices

 

[Fizzler]

Ken Hinkley has coached the most games at one club for no Grand Final appearances.
Ken Hinkley has coached the 3rd most games for no Grand Final appearances.
Ken Hinkley is 6 games away from outright 2nd on the previous stat, which is week 2 of finals should we make it that far. He's also 17 games away from being outright 1st, something he can't achieve this year but with an extension he could achieve this as early as Round 14 next year (assuming we play 3 finals).
We're less than a year from needing to say "at one club" in the first sentence. Man...

 

[Peninsula Boy]

If Ken signs a 3 year deal, he might crack coaching 300 games without a Grand Final appearance at the Ken Hinkley Footy Club.