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[sobrave]

we exist to cling to the improbability of record-setting outliers

Hanging on to an old coach who hasn't succeeded in nearly a decade hasn't worked in 150 years of VFL AFL history, but maybe this time!

 

[Steve Dore]

Hanging on to an old coach who hasn't succeeded in nearly a decade hasn't worked in 150 years of VFL AFL history, but maybe this time!

hIstORy iN ThE maKInG!!!!

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Hanging on to an old coach who hasn't succeeded in nearly a decade hasn't worked in 150 years of VFL AFL history, but maybe this time!

Ken'll never stop stop stop til we're top top top

 

[El Zorro]

Why would you bother trying to win flags when you can have supporters like this guy:

 

[simba_]

looks like Micky deleted his account out of embarrassment already

 

[tribey]

Port Adelaide Heaviest Home Defeats 1997-2021 (exc. neutral Showdowns)

138 vs. Collingwood @ FP, R20 2011
76 vs. Bulldogs @ FP, R7 2006
71 vs. Bulldogs @ AO, RPF 2021
69 vs. Brisbane @ FP, R8 2006
66 vs. St Kilda @ FP, R5 2009
62 vs. Carlton @ FP, R11 2011
60 vs. Bulldogs @ FP, R22 2011
56 vs. Geelong @ FP, R9 2007
56 vs. St Kilda @ FP, R16 2011
54 vs. Carlton @ FP, R22 1998

 

[tribey]

Minor Round Ladder 2020 & 2021 Combined

01. Port Adelaide, 31-0-8
02. Brisbane, 29-0-10
03. Geelong, 28-0-11
04. Melbourne, 26-1-12
05. Bulldogs, 25-0-14
06. WCE, 22-0-17
07. Richmond, 21-2-16
08. St. Kilda, 20-0-19
09. Sydney, 20-0-19
10. GWS, 19-1-19
11. Essendon, 17-1-21
12. Fremantle, 17-0-22
13. Collingwood, 15-1-23
14. Carlton, 15-0-24
15. Hawthorn, 12-2-25
16. Gold Coast, 12-1-26
17. Adelaide, 10-0-29
18. North Melb, 7-1-31

 

[Jones2ByrneJones]

God I hate ******* Hinkley

We should be celebrating back to backs right now

 

[Ljc_86]

God I hate ******* Hinkley

We should be celebrating back to backs right now

we’ve blown a lot of opportunities.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Minor Round Ladder 2020 & 2021 Combined

01. Port Adelaide, 31-0-8
02. Brisbane, 29-0-10
03. Geelong, 28-0-11
04. Melbourne, 26-1-12
05. Bulldogs, 25-0-14
06. WCE, 22-0-17
07. Richmond, 21-2-16
08. St. Kilda, 20-0-19
09. Sydney, 20-0-19
10. GWS, 19-1-19
11. Essendon, 17-1-21
12. Fremantle, 17-0-22
13. Collingwood, 15-1-23
14. Carlton, 15-0-24
15. Hawthorn, 12-2-25
16. Gold Coast, 12-1-26
17. Adelaide, 10-0-29
18. North Melb, 7-1-31

Seeing your bronze medals up there made me think of the Kookaburras. Win just about everything between Olympics, but fail to win the gold medal - except for 2004.

They won silver in Tokyo but 4 bronzes between 1996 and 2012. We bombed out in 2016.

 

[TeeKray]

Minor Round Ladder 2020 & 2021 Combined

01. Port Adelaide, 31-0-8
02. Brisbane, 29-0-10
03. Geelong, 28-0-11
04. Melbourne, 26-1-12
05. Bulldogs, 25-0-14
06. WCE, 22-0-17
07. Richmond, 21-2-16
08. St. Kilda, 20-0-19
09. Sydney, 20-0-19
10. GWS, 19-1-19
11. Essendon, 17-1-21
12. Fremantle, 17-0-22
13. Collingwood, 15-1-23
14. Carlton, 15-0-24
15. Hawthorn, 12-2-25
16. Gold Coast, 12-1-26
17. Adelaide, 10-0-29
18. North Melb, 7-1-31

Yeah but just remember, as Ken was so keen to tell Tredders the other day, the 2004 team did the same thing before they ultimately saluted. You'll be eating your words when Ken is premiership coach next year!

 

[Prince St]

Couldn’t be bothered having a look to see if this was done yet, but this one is pretty straight forward.

Coaches with most games and zero flags
Rodney Eade 377
John Northey 315
Ross Lyon 305
Bob Rose 282
Terry Wallace 247
Gary Ayres 223
Neale Daniher 223
Nathan Buckley 218
Brad Scott 211
Ken Hinkley 203

Of those coaches only 3 haven’t made a GF
Terry Wallace
Brad Scott
Ken Hinkley

Excluding finals, should Ken see out his contract he’ll have 247 games total

To me, rewarding a club employee with contract extensions, while the very real and likely possibility of falling short loomed, given our trajection, is proof enough that for a while now our club hasn’t been any more different than the ‘plastic franchises,’ we like to air superiority over.

In my opinion, harking back to long dead club ethos like ‘we exist to win premierships,’ makes me squirm and is like a loose propagation of confirmation bias that robs from the legacy of a club we no longer are ideologically. The club has lost its balls and I won’t be renewing until it shows that it has found them.

Maybe a bit dramatic, but seeing Melbourne win burnt me, and I didn’t expect it to. All I could think about was how 10 years ago at AO we were both rubbish and we barely beat them to avoid the spoon, they looked dogshit while we turned it around some time after, and they still beat us to a flag. F*****g shameful.

 

[Coobk001]

oldest first-time premiership coach: Denis Pagan 49y4d

Ken Hinkley's age at 2022 Grand Final: 55y359d

Ron gets it. You're welcome here anytime.

 

[tribey]

All I could think about was how 10 years ago at AO we were both rubbish and we barely beat them to avoid the spoon, they looked dogshit while we turned it around some time after, and they still beat us to a flag. F*****g shameful.

Four blokes who played that day still going round: Boak, Gray, Jonas and Tom McDonald.

The latter being the future premiership player, obviously.

 

[tribey]

Wins, 2013–2021 (inc. finals)

1. Geelong 142
2. Richmond 130
3. Sydney 127
4. Hawthorn 126
5. West Coast 124
6. Port Adelaide 121
7. Western Bulldogs 107
8. Collingwood 102
9. Adelaide 101
10. Greater Western Sydney 100
11. Fremantle 98
12. North Melbourne 89
13. Essendon 89
14. Melbourne 88
15. Brisbane 80
16. St. Kilda 72
17. Carlton 58
18. Gold Coast 53

 

[TeeKray]

Wins, 2013–2021 (inc. finals)

1. Geelong 142
2. Richmond 130
3. Sydney 127
4. Hawthorn 126
5. West Coast 124
6. Port Adelaide 121
7. Western Bulldogs 107
8. Collingwood 102
9. Adelaide 101
10. Greater Western Sydney 100
11. Fremantle 98
12. North Melbourne 89
13. Essendon 89
14. Melbourne 88
15. Brisbane 80
16. St. Kilda 72
17. Carlton 58
18. Gold Coast 53

You realise Hinkley fans would actually use this as proof that he's a great coach?

 

[Coobk001]

You realise Hinkley fans would actually use this as proof that he's a great coach?

We exist to celebrate extensive winning streaks against GC

 

[Coobk001]

Wins, 2013–2021 (inc. finals)

1. Geelong 142
2. Richmond 130
3. Sydney 127
4. Hawthorn 126
5. West Coast 124
6. Port Adelaide 121
7. Western Bulldogs 107
8. Collingwood 102
9. Adelaide 101
10. Greater Western Sydney 100
11. Fremantle 98
12. North Melbourne 89
13. Essendon 89
14. Melbourne 88
15. Brisbane 80
16. St. Kilda 72
17. Carlton 58
18. Gold Coast 53

What we need here, is our corresponding W-L against these teams as well.

 

[tribey]

Wins, 2013-2021 (inc. finals), 2.0

1. Geelong 142
2. Richmond 130
3. Sydney 127
4. Hawthorn 126
5. West Coast 124
6. Port Adelaide 121
7. Western Bulldogs 107
8. Collingwood 102
9. Adelaide 101
10. Greater Western Sydney 100
11. Fremantle 98
12. North Melbourne 89
13. Essendon 89
14. Melbourne 88
15. Brisbane 80
16. St. Kilda 72
17. Carlton 58
18. Gold Coast 53

Sorry for the rather immediate do-over, but I just realised that of the seven teams that haven’t made a GF since Hinkley took the reins, we’re the only one to have not taken a spoon.

So, any club that hasn’t been LITERALLY THE WORST IN THE COMP over this timeframe has been able to bob up for a decider.

Except us.

 

[TeeKray]

Wins, 2013-2021 (inc. finals), 2.0

1. Geelong 142
2. Richmond 130
3. Sydney 127
4. Hawthorn 126
5. West Coast 124
6. Port Adelaide 121
7. Western Bulldogs 107
8. Collingwood 102
9. Adelaide 101
10. Greater Western Sydney 100
11. Fremantle 98
12. North Melbourne 89
13. Essendon 89
14. Melbourne 88
15. Brisbane 80
16. St. Kilda 72
17. Carlton 58
18. Gold Coast 53

Sorry for the rather immediate do-over, but I just realised that of the seven teams that haven’t made a GF since Hinkley took the reins, we’re the only one to have not taken a spoon.

So, any club that hasn’t been LITERALLY THE WORST IN THE COMP over this timeframe has been able to bob up for a decider.

Except us.

And 2 of them have both been to the bottom and to the big dance!

What an era of abject nothingness.

 

[GremioPower]

I have found another one. We became the first club to have two PF losses after winning the QF:



And we did it in consecutive seasons!

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Since 2000, QF winners have won 75% of all PF (33-11). Although, one must say, the trend seems to have changed since 2015.

In the past 7 seasons, a QF winner has lost the PF 8 times (57.1%).

 

[Coobk001]

I have found another one. We became the first club to have two PF losses after winning the QF:

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And we did it in consecutive seasons!

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Since 2000, QF winners have won 75% of all PF (33-11). Although, one must say, the trend seems to have changed since 2015.

In the past 7 seasons, a QF winner has lost the PF 8 times (57.1%).

And both home finals..

 

[GremioPower]

And both home finals..

It’s usually the case with QF winners, isn’t it?

 

[sobrave]

I have found another one. We became the first club to have two PF losses after winning the QF:

View attachment 1253008

And we did it in consecutive seasons!

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Since 2000, QF winners have won 75% of all PF (33-11). Although, one must say, the trend seems to have changed since 2015.

In the past 7 seasons, a QF winner has lost the PF 8 times (57.1%).

We exist to do crap stuff and make our community depressed

 

[Coobk001]

It’s usually the case with QF winners, isn’t it?

Yeah would be in this scenario. However if Melb played Geelong at the MCG it isn't really much of a home game.

We had 2 distinct home prelims and lost both.

We won our previous 2.