Conspiracy Theory The Manson murders were faked

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Operation Chaos and the Manson murders hoax


The Mamas & The Papas were a bit before my time, I was a little tyke when their stuff was on the air. What I do remember of that time was the saturation play that their songs got. 'California Dreamin' and 'Monday Monday' were not exactly the most upbeat, happy songs. Yet there they were on the radio quite a bit, over and over again. Purported radio hits. Creating a general mood of gloom about city life in suburban, northern America. California beckoned everyone as a sanctuary away from it all.

The lyrics to the song California Dreaming told everyone listening that they were miserable and cold in the north, , and that they would be safe and warm in LA.

The song San Francisco (AKA 'If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear a flower in your hair etc.) by Mamas and the Papas close associate Scott McKenzie and written by John Phillips), added to the same California mystique. Odd that Mamas and Papas founder John Philips graduated from the same high school class as Scott Mckenzie , six miles from the Pentagon, Classof 1953, George Washington High School, and his accompanying vocalist in the Mamas and The Papas, Cass Elliott, graduated same George Washington High School.

Same six miles from the Pentagon in Alexandria, alongside none other than classmate Doors lead singer Jim Morrison, class of 1961.
And all four of them became huge figures of the California hippie music scene only a few years later.
Those California-themed songs, combined with all the Beach Boys fun n' sun stuff (plus Do You Know the Way to San Jose) always on the radio, it made it seem like all your troubles would be gone if you could just get to California. Even Sharon Tate added to it. She was a surfer girl in a movie called 'Don't Make Waves', playing the part of a girl named 'Malibu'. Mattel even put out a surfer Barbie doll called 'Malibu Barbie' which came with its own surfboard and dune buggy.


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Sharon Tate played the role of beach girl 'Malibu' in the film 'Don't Make Waves'


Was actress Sharon Tate tasked with helping, along with the Beach Boys, to build an idea into the public consciousness: Which was that California was a paradise where no one had to work. a place where people just bummed around the beach all day, and had uninhibited indulgences in whatever sex or drugs they chose?

Purported hippie cult leader Charles Manson (of the murderous 'Manson Family') embodied the lifestyle of 'evil freedom'. Manson became to most Americans a market brand symbol for all the free-wheeling self indulgent bums, complete with dune buggies, free to bugger their minds with whatever drugs and bugger their communities with whatevertrouble they chose to get up to. (Manson's clan was said to have modified stolen cars into dune buggies in which they bombed around the desert and beach fronts, when it turned out that in reality they had used existing dune buggies which the Spahn Ranch movie ranch used for tourist rentals and movie shoots at the ranch )
Post -Manson, freedom and independence were debased, even evil. Conformity and compliance were good. If you were good, and followed the lead, you could achieve anything. You could reach for the stars and fly to the moon (NASA) and back again.

If you were free, you were surely going to lose your way, spread your wings, and end in disaster.
Like Rolling Stones founder Brian Jones had. Like Charles Manson had. Like Jimi Hendrix had. Like Jim Morrison had. Like Janis Joplin had. All of them young, free, and purportedly dead as a result of it.

Even like the murdered Sharon Tate and Abigail Folger. Both Manson victims, purportedly. Both who were in some measure indirectly blamed for what purportedly befell them,with all the allegations of far leftist leanings, and of wild sex and occult gatherings having taken place at 10050 Cielo Drive prior to their deaths.

Was it all a huge exercise in psychological warfare? Fake Manson murders? The fake Zodiac killings, the fake rocker deaths, the fake stabbing at Altamont...?

This 'freedom is evil' theme later used to indict anyone who espoused basic civil liberties. Like freedom of movement, freedom from mandatory military service, the right to privacy, and freedom of speech.

People were beasts who went wild unless closely watched and tightly governed, surely.

( re: the Hells Angels stabbing at the Rolling Stones show at Altamont rock festival. How convenient that someone had a camera running and trained on the perfect spot in a stadium overspill crowd of 250,000 - 500,000 people, able to capture right on film the dramatic footage of the purported stabbing) Ten seconds of footage in a seven hour concert, and the camera crew just happened to have a film camera rolling on that relatively tiny, exact spot for that tiny amount of time.....hmm.

And the people who filmed the purported stabbing (footage worth millions) turned out to be the same documentary crew which had accidentally captured 'spontaneous' Beatlemania footage on the Beatles first American tour (footage worth millions) ,and later 'accidentally' ran into Paul McCartney stranded at JFK airport in 2001 in NY and ended up accidentally collecting footage of how Sir Paul had heroically walked about Manhattan that day calming everyone with his presence, on September 11th, and spontaneously arranged a charity benefit concert for the dead and for the dead rescue workers just days later in NY.

Wow, those Maysles Bothers guys were lucky. They got three documentaries out of it:

1. Their famous 1964 Beatlemania documentary ('Beatles in America') with the Beatles mobbed by teens at JFK airport.

2. The 1970 'Gimme Shelter' Rolling Stones stabbing documentary motion picture release.

3. The 'not as well known' 2001 9/11 World Trade Center attack documentary about Paul McCartney titled 'The Love We Make', featuring
Paul McCartney right in NY the day the WTC was hit by Bin Laden.

Three documentaries. All just for being there when surprising odd things happened to rock stars.

Look up the Maysles brothers for the scoop on how these guys always seemed to be in exactly the right place at the right time to capture events which could not have possibly been pre-planned, fake and staged...surely?

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Note the above : Directed by David Maysles , note below captioned 'the legendary film by the Maysles Bros':

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Maysles brothers documentary covering the first arrival of "Beatlemania" in the U.S.

Yet more 'coincidence drama' from same famed Maysles Brothers team:

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Wow, Paul McCartney was right in Manhattan at the World Trade Center
on the day of the attack (9/11), and not only that , he had his documentary film friends with
him ready to film it all . All by just a fluke! Purportedly.
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There's those Maysles Brothers again!


And Sir McCartney and Sir Mick Jagger both got knighted years later by the elite of London.
Is it not looking like Beatlemania, the stabbing at Altamont, and the 'attack' on the Word Trade Center were
all possibly planned in advance, all fake, and all staged and captured on film by the same team?

Anyway , back to Manson :
So in the mid-to-late 1960s every parent is concerned about their kids getting lost out there in 'wild and out-of-control' America.
Drugs, violence, promiscuity, and satanism on the rise seemingly everywhere.

And in 1971, parents were still debating whether to allow their sons to be drafted into the Vietnam War. Many of them fighting furiously to keep their sons safely at home.

And while this was happening their sons were being encouraged by marketing hype to buy records containing lyrics like this:



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Mansonesque lyrics to The Doors song 'The End'. Manson told the kids who followed him to kill.

Designed to outrage parents who had recently heard of Beatlemania and the mania of 'charismatic' Charles Manson's
purported 'power to control people'? hmmm . Manson controls kids under him , and has them kill people.
Almost as bad as Uncle Sam having the power to draft and control their sons and
make them murder and be murdered etc.? Manson sort of took the attention off of what Uncle Sam
and the draft board were up to. Manson indicted everyone else who was purportedly like him: Namely,
free people.
Same parents hear said 'I want to * mom and kill Dad' song on radio. Discretely check son's growing record collection.
Sure enough , there it is! The Doors song 'The End', right there, tucked into their son's stack of records.
Same parents horrified to find son under influence of evil Jim Morrison. Surely another Manson in the making...etc.


Were Jim Morrison, Sharon Tate, and Charles Manson all possibly government agents?

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Sharon Tate's father Colonel Paul James Tate ACS/I (assistant chief of staff for intelligence) .
He was assistant chief of staff for intelligence at the Sixth Region Army Air Defense Command at The Presidio/Fort Baker (army intelligence means the spook division. it means psychological operations)


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The professional NSA disinformation specialists have attacked this with their pat rebuttal of "so? It was during the war, big deal they were in the military , there were A LOT of people involved in the war effort."

What they conveniently ignore, and what should be mentioned here, is that Colonel Paul James Tate (Sharon Tate's father) and Rr. Admiral George S. Morrison (Jim Morrison's father) worked together at the same military base , the base which was at the center of the Vietnam War effort. Both of them worked together at the base which comprises The Presidio San Francisco/Fort Baker , and its attached Eastern wing: Alameda Island naval base.

The fact that Jim Morrison met Charles Manson through their mutual acquaintances Dennis Wilson (singer for The Beach Boys) and The Beach Boys record producer Terry Melcher, and that both Jim Morrison and Charles Manson hung out around Spahn Ranch playing around with guns and horses should also be included here.

Sharon Tate knew Jim Morrison, and both of their fathers worked together at the same San Francisco military base. Jim Morrison and Sharon Tate both knew Jay Sebring, another purported Manson victim. Sebring styled both Jim Morrison's and Sharon Tate's hair for them. And his hair salon was in the Eastern side of The Presidio's residence community.

So the fact that both Sharon Tate's and Jim Morrison's fathers were high ranking officers at the same base during the Vietnam War is important in understanding the basis of the Manson hoax. It was possibly a psychological operation.



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In 1971, both the above cult leaders/gurus had met fates worse than being drafted into the Vietnam War. Jim Morrison was dead, and Charles Manson was in prison for murdering Sharon Tate. Riders on the Storm was all over the radio, and Charles Manson was all over the TV.

So the obvious Psychological Operations victory was:
War and comformity : moral and safe
Rebellion and freedom : immoral and dangerous

For parents, its an easy choice.
End result:
Junior is going to find himself in the cadets and in the army, and in the war


The Mamas and the Papas indeed.

Look at the people involved:

Sharon Tate is in a 1967 film which is basically about debauched California beach bums and their out of control sex lives. In real life Sharon Tate's father is Colonel Paul James Tate who works at The Presidio Fort Baker Naval base with the same Colonel Michael Aquino who ran the 7th Psychological Operations Group there.

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Same Colonel Aquino who in 1966 hung out with Manson girl Susan Atkins at occult gatherings at the nearby home of Anton LaVey.

In 1967 The radio waves are still inundated with the beach party music of Dennis Wilson and The Beach Boys, which glorifies California weather, surfing, beaches, culture, and people. Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys is living with debauched beach bum Charles Manson, Susan Atkins and a purported sex cult of girls and friends.

Dennis Wilson is on record as having boasted "Me and Charlie started The Family" (in other words Dennis Wilson and Charles Manson created the group of people purportedly controlled by Manson.

During the same years the hit song 'San Francisco', which beckons teens from all over the U.S. to go to California (San Francisco) to meet 'the gentle people there', is also saturating the air waves. It was written by Jon Phillips and sung by Scott McKenzie. Phillips and McKenzie were both from Alexandria, Virginia. Both attended school together there a 12 minute drive from The Pentagon, and both had parents working together in military intelligence at The Pentagon/Defense Intelligence Agency in Alexandria, Virginia. Scott McKenzie's mother was a personal aid to Secretary of Defense, General George C Marshall at The Pentagon. That is the top commander of the U.S. military at The Pentagon, and head of Defense Intelligence. The dept. which creates psychological operations. The following obit for Scott McKenzie confirms that Scott Mckenzie's mother was personal aide to General George Marshall:
https://web.archive.org/web/2017040.../music-obituaries/9488472/Scott-McKenzie.html
It also surprisingly reveals that Scott McKenzie was a close friend of The Beach Boys.
The Scott McKenzie wiki currently confirms that the mamas of Scott McKenzie and John Phillips both knew each other. All indications are that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_McKenzie
Scott's mom probably knew John's mom from their work together for The Pentagon. John Philips' father had been a marines officer,
and Philps himself briefly attended West Point Military Academy before being sent for duty as rock star in Californian alongside friend Scott.

In 1967 ,Jon Philips thinks everyone should go to San Francisco with 'flowers in their hair' because "you will meet gentle people there". Manson girl Susan Atkins is from San Francisco, btw, and Sharon Tate's father is stationed there at Fort Baker/Presidio San Francisco

In 1967 John Phillips and Cass Elliott are pumping out other hit songs. Mostly about how depressing and cold life is (Monday Monday, how could you leave and not take me?) anywhere other than warm California , in particular the song 'California Dreamin', which is a song about how grey and cold it is and if you go to California you'll be "safe and warm". Cass Elliott too is from Alexandria , Virginia, and she too graduated from the same high school 12 minutes from the Pentagon which John Phillips and SCott McKenzie had . George Washington High School.

1967 Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys is partying with singer Jim Morrison of the Doors. Jim Morrison's father is Rear Admiral George Morrison, who works at The Presidio San Francisco/Fort Baker Naval base with Colonel Paul James Tate and psychological warfare specialist Colonel Michael Aquino.

Jim Morrison just happens to be from Alexandria Virginia too, and graduated the same year as Cass Elliott (1961) from the same school just 12 minutes drive from The Pentagon. Jim Morrison's father Admiral George Morrison worked with Scott McKenzie's mother and John Phillip's father at The Pentagon/Defense Intelligence Agency in Alexandria , Virginia.

Dennis Wilson is on record admitting that he and Jim Morrison drove Charles Manson to a meeting with Dennis's record producer Terry Melcher.

The Beach Boy's Mike Love is the third from the left in this 1968 photo:

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From left to right: Pattie Harrison, John Lennon, Mike Love, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, George Harrison, Mia Farrow, Donovan, Paul McCartney, Jane Asher, and Cynthia Lennon in Rishikesh, India, 1968.

The Beatles song 'Helter Skelter' purportedly became the theme song for Manson's clan as they planned their murderous
rampage. They referenced their planned mayhem as their plan for 'Helter Skelter'. A chaotic future war they planned to
start.

But....

How's this for 'not a coincidence'?:
While Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys was living with Manson and his entourage in Los Angeles in 1968, Wilson's own band mate, Mike Love of The Beach Boys was living with The Beatles at a transcendental meditation compound in India.

Mike Love then helped The Beatles to create the Beach Boys style song 'Back in the USSR'. A song which was The Beatle's homage to The Beach Boys song 'Surfin U.S.A.'

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The Beach Boys Dennis Wilson with Charles Manson 1968


Bordering on ridiculous, is the 'coincidence' that on the same Beatles album , which Mike Love contributed to , appeared the song 'Helter Skelter'. Which would soon become the very theme song of the Manson Family , or , better , the Manson Family psy-op. (psychological operations hoax, including the fake murder of Sharon Tate)

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Add to this steaming pile of unlikely coincidences the fact that A-list actress Sharon Tate was purportedly murdered while in residence at 10050 Cielo Drive, the former home of Terry Melcher, The Beach Boys record producer.


Almost like the Manson story had been planned for getting media attention, and needed it , with so many high-profile 'tags' built into it. Did it help that the Manson yarn included:


- a gruesomely murdered A-list Hollywood actress (Sharon Tate)


- a movie producer (her husband) who had a hit movie currently playing in theaters (about a murderous sex cult , no less

- The Beatles

- a prominent made-to-order theme song , the radio hit Helter Skelter

- a purportedl murdered heiress to the billion dollar Folger Coffee family: Abigail Folger


All to get the attention of the publicists and their public? In other words, a 'news story' tailored to garner maximum news-and-media coverage. Every day a new twist on the story appearing in the news, a new facet to it. Always with a recognizable name, face, etc.

And lets not forget to notice that documentarian Robert Hendrickson mysteriously/purportedly had the prescience to start filming the Manson Family for a documentary, in person, months before the Manson people even did anything. Yes, there he was, Robert Hendrickson, with an entire film budget and equipment , using expensive 8mm camera film to film Manson and his followers at both Spahn ranch and at Barker Ranch. Why? Did he know , somehow, that these obscure, violent weirdos would be destined for fame a few weeks later? Remember that Spahn and Barker ranch at the time were nothing but the secret, abandoned-shack hideaways of a cult of grotty dumpster-divers in the middle of nowhere, under the sadistic command of a psychotic gun-waving, rapist lunatic...

Yet there , with them, interviewing these nobodies, for no particular reason, was documentarian Robert Hendrickson. Is that plausible? Robert Hendrickson is somehow there filming. Robert Hendrickson, who was lucky enough to get enough 'before and after' footage to put the 1972 documentary 'Manson' in movie theaters. Featuring the cult-member psychos making nefarious plans and dire predictions before anything even happened. More coincidence pr0n?

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watch the laughable trailer for it here:

MANSON documentary trailer [1973 - Robert Hendrickson]



Two years beforehand, In 1967 The Monterey Pop Festival takes place near San Francisco/San Jose, organized largely by Terry Melcher, Dennis Wilson, and Cass Elliott. The Monterey Pop Festival is staged on the exercise/fair grounds of the The Presidio Montery/ Fort Ord Naval base in Monterey.

The Monterey Pop Festival includes the mass-distribution of incredible amounts of LSD , marijuana and other drugs.
The distribution of these drugs is later traced to CIA-connected organizations like The Merry Pranksters, the Hells Angels,
and sundry other figures like Tim Leary and Ken Kesey with connections to the Esalen Institute and Stanford University.

The 1967 Monterey Pop Festival & San FRancisco's 1967 Summer of Love 'Love in' coalesce, to cement California's image as a place of wanton indulgence in sex and drugs and intentionally marketed to teens and youths. Thereby 'peace and love' (aka anti war, anti draft) are made synonymous with 'sex and drugs'. Not just drugs, but mind-destroying drugs.

Was the whole thing an exercise in psychological warfare created by the U.S military?
Designed to disgust America and to frighten America with the damage inflicted
by 'too much freedom' and 'too much rebellion'.

The extremely young of America targeted for involvement and destruction, so that Americans would
recoil in fear and outrage, and associate ALL libertarian activism (especially political activism against
the war and against the draft) with 'youthful naivety and foolish idealism'?

The Manson hoax and faked rocker deaths of 1969 were the coup- de -grace for
sixties ideals of peace and love. To 'sex and drugs' were added 'violence and death'.

interesting fact

the song 'San Francisco' , written by John Phillips, was actually used in
a television advertisement for the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival.

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See these two images ( SAME AREA CIRCLED in RED in both images). Clearly reveals that the Monterey Pop Festival was staged on
the Presidio Monterey/Fort Ord Exercise Grounds/Fair Grounds


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The land highlighted in pink is Fort Ord land. The Monterey Fair Grounds (pink) were
administered by Fort Ord. In other words, the 'degenerate hippie festival'
aka The Monterey Pop Festival . took place only at the permission of Fort Ord.



In 1967 the tiny city of Monterey was nothing but the support community for the Presidio Monterey/Fort Ord military and naval base.
Monterey was nothing but a military base, a primary base for operations in Vietnam.

So someone please explain why the gigantic pro-peace, 'mass war protest concert' known as The Monterey Pop Festival
took place on a military base?

Put two and two together here. The Monterey Pop Festival was hosted by Fort Ord, at the behest of military intelligence. The Monterey Pop Festival was a psychological operations black project. As was the Altamont Free Concert, Woodstock , and dozens of other carefully planned festivals of the kind.


Note too the phraseology which psy-op songs like 'San Francisco' and 'California Dreaming' used in marketing the trek to Monterey, with probable special attention paid to luring young females.
"I'd be safe and warm, if I was in L.A. ....... California dreamin, on such a winters day"

"If you're going to San Francisco, you're gonna meet some gentle people there"

"I have lots of friends in San Jose"


“I wish they all could be California girls.”


So basically the marketing pitch was:

"Come on all you bored, disenchanted sixteen to eighteen year old girls and boys. Don't be scared to hit the road for the first time and venture out alone or in pairs. Come to California. It is safe. The people are going to be gentle. It's warm. It's a love-in."

Meanwhile the Hells Angels and Defense Intel and the Merry Pranksters and The Brotherhood of Eternal Love and The Esalen Institute and The Hog Farm and Stanford University and innumerable other shadow groups were brewing up batches of 'bad trip' acid to hand out and spike the punch at the Monterey Pop Festival, the Altamont Free Concert festival, Woodstock and dozens of other gigantic venues.


The 'wild and free' Summer of Love would do much to discredit the most ardent proponents of 'peace and love ' and of ending the forced Vietnam War draft.

Via LSD freakouts and permanent psychological damage. Via STD's, pregnancies, drug-addiction, prostitution and the other ensuing chaos. In the late 1960s, people's children were being lured away , and then returning home in the millions, forever changed by their experiences. Many of them returning to mother as a distant, paranoid , psychotic, depressed, lethargic, and bitter new person. In contrast , military service and a tour in Vietnam seemed nearly preferable. Mission accomplished, Operation Chaos.
 
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In 1970 young eligible men were desperate to evade being drafted to fight and possibly die
in Vietnam. There were so many men skipping town on receiving their draft cards, that Uncle Sam
had their people on alert. In place to monitor all train trips, bus trips, and airplane flights to Mexico and Canada
for potential draft dodgers attempting to flee.

The preferred method of escape became hitch-hiking. Via hitch-hiking, draft-dodgers could make it to the Canadian border without being
intercepted and arrested by military officials. So dire was their need to travel, to make their escape as fast as possible ....that these young
men often had to keep moving in inclement weather. Hitchhiking late into the night on remote roads , in thunder storms.

How thoughtful of Jim Morrison and his father Admiral George Scott Morrison to warn drivers not to pick them up,
in the purported radio hit 'Riders on the Storm'.

"If you give this man a ride, sweet memory will die. Killer on the road" etc.

See the video here, where Jim Morrison himself takes on the role of the 'killer on the road'.
Hitchhiking hippie is picked up by passing car. Owner of car disappears. Wild bong -toking drunk
now owns car etc. See it here:



notice how he spots a woman looking like Sharon Tate at the very end . hmmm
coincidence pr0n?
 
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Well, kudos to you for typing all that.

I guess Quentin will reveal all in a few weeks time.

Hollywood is run by the govt, like China runs its media. Don't count on Tarantino being allowed
to reveal anything not approved by London.


Here is some more tasty stuff

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The blonde woman at the center of it all in the above very carefully composed 1968 picture is Mia Farrow.

Mia Farrow is pictured there posing in India with John Lennon, The Beatles , The Beach Boys and their 'cult leader' the Maharishi
Yogi.

Mia Farrow had just finished acting the part of 'Rosemary' in 'Rosemary's Baby' .

The hit Hollywood film 'Rosemary's Baby' , (about Mia Farrow being trapped into a satanic cult),
was directed by none other than Sharon Tate's husband, Roman Polanski.

While in India with The Beach Boys and Mia Farrow, The Beatles are inspired to write a song about Mia Farrow's sister coming under obsessive influence with the teachings
of their cult leader there:
"Dear Prudence" is a song by the English rock band the Beatles from their 1968 double album The Beatles (also known as "the White Album"). The song was written by John Lennon, although credited to Lennon–McCartney. Written in Rishikesh in India, it was inspired by actress Mia Farrow's sister, Prudence Farrow, who became obsessive about meditating while practising with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.[2] "


So lets get this straight before getting ahead of ourselves.

In 1968 Sharon Tate and her husband Roman Polanski are in NY with Mia Farrow filming Rosemary's Baby.
The cult scenes for the film Rosemary's Baby are shot in a huge two story top floor suite in the luxurious
and exclusive NY building known as The Dakota. (this same suite was after purchased by John Lennon in 1973, by the way.)

After filming on Rosemary's Baby wraps up, Mia Farrow and John Lennon immediately fly out to Rishikesh to meet up with
everyone else there for carefully posed photo shoots involving a reputed cult leader (the Maharishi Yogi).

The Beatles live at his compound for weeks with Mia Farrow and members of The Beach Boys, and spend their time there
compiling ideas and themes for the upcoming Beatles album: The White Album, which will eventually contain the songs
'Dear Prudence' and 'Helter Skelter'.

A year later the close friends of The Beach Boys (including Charles Manson) decide to mutilate Roman Polanski's wife,
A-list actress Sharon Tate, for no particular reason. Tate is pregnant.

Sharon Tate had just been with her friend Mia Farrow in The Dakota the year before. And the film they made there
was about a pregnant Mia Farrow (Sharon Tate's friend) terrorized by a sex cult. (Rosemary's Baby)

Manson victim Sharon Tate's friend Mia Farrow was with The Beatles when they wrote the song 'Helter Skelter'.

Manson claimed that his listening obsessively to the song 'Helter Skelter' on radio and LP, was what pushed him over the edge
to begin his cult-murder spree in Los Angeles.

So, who does Manson choose, by random accident, to murder first? Why its the very same Sharon Tate
who happened to be in close with the circle surrounding The Beatles. Manson has no idea who she is,
other than that she's 'another rich Beverley Hills bitch' etc. whom he had recently encountered randomly while trying
to find Terry Melcher, the Beach Boys record producer.

Further, Manson had lived with The Beach Boys in Los Angeles while Tates friend Mia Farrow and The Beatles and The Beach Boys
were all living at a transcendental meditation cult compound in India being inspired to write Helter Skelter.

All these coincidence. All in the same steaming pile.


What a media-spectacular story they had there.

A bit more research revealed that John Lennon had sublet the attached guest apt. of
the same sprawling Dakota suite which Polanski filmed Rosemary's Baby in. John Lennon
was allowed by The Dakota's picky tenants association Board to purchase the entire
suite in 1973. The management of the sedate and sedentary Dakota had previously declined
other celebs and rockers applications, but made an exception for Lennon because he had
been a good friend of the previous owner and had discretely inhabited a sublet a portion of
same suite for years. http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/11353/lennon-bought-rosemarys-movie-apartments

So please bear with me here with details , details. Trying not to bury you in them.

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"think of the implications of the official
story as it stands today and how unlikely it is:
1968
actress Sharon Tate's husband directs a film about a woman
whose baby is stolen by a satanic coven, and it is set in a building
known as 'The Dakota' in downtown NY. The film is titled 'Rosemary's Baby'.
1969
only months later, while the film Rosemary's Baby is still playing in theaters,
8.5 months pregnant actress Sharon Tate and her unborn baby are, in real
life, murdered by a satanic coven (the Manson cult).
1973
Yoko Ono has recently married John Lennon,
they are planning to have a baby together,
and the place they choose to live in to conceive their baby
is ....
the apartment where Sharon Tate's husband directed a film
about a woman whose baby was stolen
by a satanic coven, and months later, while the film was still playing in theaters,
Sharon Tate and her unborn baby were in real life murdered by a satanic coven.
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1975
Yoko Ono while living in same Rosemary's Baby apt. gives birth to a baby boy,
son Sean Lennon. She has no qualms about giving birth to a baby in, of all places,
the same apartment eerily associated with both the baby-eating satanic cult in the film and the gruesome cult murder of actress Sharon Tate and her baby.
1980
John Lennon is gunned down right outside the front entrance to same building,
'The Dakota'.
Lennon and his wife were young millionaires who could afford to live any place on earth
and they chose the creepiest of creepy apartments in which to conceive and raise their baby? There is no way in hell that the wealthy Yoko Ono would have agreed to it.
f you were a millionaire planning to have a baby , with your
choice of any idyllic baby -environs place in the world to live, cost no object , etc. ....
would you choose the exact same frigging apartment which had been used to film
a film about a satanic cult victimizing a pregnant woman and her newborn baby?
Especially when you know that the wife of the director of the same film had his
9 months pregnant wife and her unborn baby murdered by a satanic cult the same
year the film was released?
None of it makes sense. There's no way in hell Yoko Ono would have agreed to
live there, let alone the fact that she actually went through with it , moved in
there in 1973, became pregnant there, carried her baby to term there, and gave
birth to her baby , son Sean Lennon, while living there.
None of it makes sense , until you realize that Sharon Tate's murder was staged,
and that John Lennon had been in on it ,and that he and his wife both knew that
the Manson cult had been an elaborate hoax. That explains why Yoko would have
no qualms about living there, having her baby there, etc., because she knew there was no danger, no bad memories, or anything else.
John Lennon and Yoko Ono of course knew that Tates' death had been faked. (as it most obviously was)
As was John Lennons death faked some years later in 1980"
 
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The Beatles and The Beach Boys were tied in to creating 'psy-ops music' by their work in helping craft the Manson murder hoax (which was a component of Operation Chaos) and both bands have been associated with some of the most depressing music in history. The Beatles put out Eleanor Rigby , a song about an old lady who dies alone and no one attends her funeral, and somber sounding weariness like Hey Jude , Yesterday, Fool on the Hill, etc. (long long list) and generally off-putting nonsensical songs (I am the Walrus, Uncle Albert etc,).








While their psy-ops pals The Beach Boys were closely associated with two of the most depressing songs of the era:
namely 'Seasons in the Sun' and 'Shannon' ,

'Seasons in the Sun' was so popular that it rocketed to number one , and was about a young man who is dying saying goodbye to the world.
Sure. We are supposed to believe that a morbid, sad song like that flew off the shelves, wildly popular to number one on the Billboards chart summer of 1974.

and lo and behold The Beach Boys originally recorded it with Terry JAcks, and decided to instead have Terry JAcks record and release it himself:
check it yourself : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasons_in_the_Sun


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And just two years after that , in 1976, a morbidly sad song about (I kid you not) the Beach Boys dead dog 'Shannon' (an Irish Setter) rocketed to no. 6 in the U.S. and number one in Canada, to be one of the biggest hits of summer of 1976. It was about a dog who drowned.



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Oh lets party , kids, shall we? First we'll play the song about dead old lady Eleanor Rigby, then we'll follow it up with the song about the dying boy, and then the song about the drowned dog. and throw into the party mix the song about the dead astronaut, yes the song of the same era by Sir Jaggers' good friend David Bowie called A Space Oddity (1969) , which is about an astronaut whose equipment malfunctions and who dies drifting aimlessly out to space in his tin can spaceship ( Bowie, himself, declined a knighthood offered by Queen Elizabeth) .


And then there's the Alan Parson's Project's depressing music, and Alan PArsons worked closely with the band Pink Floyd, yet another BRitish band which put out horribly depressing music. Parsons was a producer and major contributor to the saddening creations of both The Beatles and those of Pink Floyd:

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^Someone please explain to me why all the work of this depressing A-hole was so purportedly popular ^



And the horrible , British sound track music of the 'rock opera' major motion pictures 'Tommy' and 'The Wall' , both films sadly disturbing. The Wall featuring Alan Parsons associates Pink Floyd, and Tommy featuring Brit Sir Elton John , who worked on Tommy with The Who, another British Invasion band.

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A cascade of sadness and death from Sir Elton, constantly singing about giving up on lifes dreams (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road) and the horribly discordant misery of 'Someone Saved My Life Tonight' (wishes he hadn't been saved by the sound of it) and about DEAD Marylin Monroe (Goodbye Norma Jean)







Don't the kids just love to dance and F * to this stuff?
And then the horrible dirges from British Sir Bono (with or without you)and British Sir Geldoff (I don't like Mondays) and BRitish spy Gordon Sumner (aka 'Sting') and his songs of death and despair (dead salmon frozen in waterfall, etc.). (Stings drummer was Stewart Copeland, whose father Myles Copeland was a founding member of the CIA after WW2)






These guys were all the life of the party, huh?
Just in case you get too happy about being young , or that its summer, or that someone went to the moon , or your pet dog or whatever.
Or maybe the operable word for it all is 'horny'.



Then there was the absolutely joyful 'Without You' , a man wailing in abject misery about the hopelessness of living life alone, put out in 1971 by Harry Nilsson. The song traces back to Apple Records, originally created by Bad Finger, a Beatles clone band at the Beatles Apple REcords. and Nilson said the original Bad Finger version sounds exactly like McCartney.

(Harry Nilsson famously owned exactly the same apartment which Mama Cass and Keith Moon both allegedly died in, see:

This just blocks from the Apple Records offices in London, England)

Mama Cass's parents worked for THE Pentagon in the Alexandria Virginia suburb of D.C., and she graduated in the same class as Jim Morrison. She sang on the sad songs Monday Monday and California Dreaming. California Dreaming was about a young man so depressed by the fall season of all the leaves are brown and grey sky that he falls down on his knees praying and dreaming he could move to California..

Here's another light-hearted treat (1968) courtesy of Knights of Malta member and knighted Richard Harris:


And in 1972, a year after 'Without You' , another massive summer hit 'Alone Again, Naturally' by Gilbert O'Sullivan, about a spurned man who climbs to the top of a tower and commits suicide ("climbing to the top, I throw myself off' etc.)and guess what , its another Brit and it strangely sounds exactly like Paul McCartney or the same team of lunatics either sang it or wrote it. Purportedly rocketed off the store shelves, selling 2 million copies and forcing reciprocal saturation radio play as it hit no. 3 in the UK; No. 1 in the US, spending six non-consecutive weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart . lol.

Actually ,LOL is so fake. I am not laughing because its not funny, its sick. How plausible does the purportedly 'massive popularity' of all this absolute mind-rotting s**t sound to you, really, when you sit back and look at it?

When you finally make it to the inescapable realization that our media is an administered, compartmentalized, state-owned apparatus which lies to us and manipulates us on everthing else?

Our music is selected FOR us, not BY us. And Sir Jimmy Savile had a job on a TV show telling people every week which songs were 'blasting up the charts' and massively popular, the music ratings charts show 'Top of the Pops'. Everyone just believed it. "Oh, and this week, this sad song of death and despair just sold another 2 million copies , which is why everyone is forced to listen to it on the radio this summer, all summer, every F ******* hour of every F ******* day this summer...."
Can't you just see the young people happily setting out in search of owning this crap, and of course, as we are told, choosing to buy THAT music before they would buy any other happier music?).


Unless of course we were lied to all along, and in actual reality the sad music was not popular at all. It was, rather, forced onto the radio because the shadow government's deep state covertly owns and controls the entire media.


Almost forgot to throw in another hugely saddening song from the same bunch.
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Sir Freddie Mercury with Princess Diana (both of them purportedly 'young-dead' too.) Or maybe just done their tour of duty for
Mi5/Mi6?


Actually Freddie Mercury was not officially knighted, but...you know what I mean.




British rocker Freddiie Mercury (close friend of David Bowie and Princess Diana and Sir Elton John, and frequently photographed with them) put out the 1975 song 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. A lovely party tune about an assassin who shoots his victim at point black in the head and then commits suicide. ("I don't wanna die , sometimes wish I'd never been born at all" etc.) Oh joy, kids, pass me both the pizza and also that other depressingnrecord over there. I am near tears, but I need just that one more hopeless song to get me there. To the juicy waterworks.


etc. etc. etc . And my limited research ends here, but you get the picture, look up any sad white guy singing sad 'hits' , right up to present day and it'll inevitably all trace back, to the same agenda , the same miieu of studios and labels and oddly coincidental connections. (throw in purportedly dead Cobain singing about his own impending suicide death in 'All Apologies', married to Brit Courtney Love) All of them connected to the same alphabet soup of intel agencies and psy-ops/spy-ops throughout the years.

So many of these songs connect in to faked 'young rocker' deaths, but that is such a big job to document all of it .It's there. I just don't have time to write it.

<<meanwhile back at the ranch, no one notices that this glut of wimp death-smut is all white , and is accompanied by the simultaneous rise of joyful sexy black music. 'You are the Sunshine of my Life' , and 'I believe in Miracles, you sexy thing' and the Jacksons dance music and the whole gamut of happy tunes right up to Pharrel Williams Clap Along (etc.)
And if you doubt the race angle to angle to any of this , I challenge you to :

Name me one morbidly depressing song in the same vein by A BLACK MAN. Or better a falsetto-equipped, androgynous,
cross-dressing wimpy weirdo type black man.

You get the picture

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Paint it Black indeed. What we've lived through is the satanic Queen of England obsessively pushing her agenda of cultural death on white society.
Do you know that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were married in real life when they played the role of Dr. and his wife in Eyes Wide Shut? and in the film, the outside of their apt. building is a shot of The San REmo, which is almost right beside The Dakota, in real life, where Rosemary's Baby was filmed in 1968? and that Stanley Kubrick intended to make Eyes Wide Shut back in 1968 but shelved it when he found out Rosemary's Baby was being made by Polanski? Kubrick didn't make Eyes Wide Shut until 1999 I think, around there. And in real life, another synch with Rosemarys Baby is that in that film , the couple lose their infant baby on birth to the occultist sect in The Dakota. In real life Nicole Kidman was pregnant with Tom Cruises child during filming of Eyes Wide Shut , and guess what> that baby never made it. They say it was a failed birth, the baby died in delivery. eerie? did you know that Princess DIana lived in the San Remo in real life , near the time that Eyes Wide Shut was made? she lived there with Dod Al FAyed, the Egyptian royalty boyfriend playboy fiancee she left Prince CHarles for. One door down from The Dakota. And Sir Bono and Sir Geldof lived in The San Remo, along with Egyptian occultist masonic insider STeve 'King Tut' Martin and a whole slew of other occultists. Mia FArrow grew up in the building between the Dakota and the San Remo (the Langham) with her mother actress Maureen O'Sullivan, O'Sullivan was the lover of actor Robert Ryan, and scenes of Rosemary's Baby were filmed in Robert Ryan's apartment inside the Dakota. And in the same apartment the AHAB meetings were held. Sir Mick Jagger lived in The Langham, and in 1966 wrote the song 'Paint it Black' which they admitted was satanically inspired. This is the same year THe Beatles put out their famous 'butchered babies' album Yesterday and Today (1966), which featured actually dolls of butchered bloodied infants on the cover .AHAB stands for Artists Helping all Blacks. A black-rights organization named after acronym AHAB, named after King Ahab , of Old Testament fame , ancient Hebrew king jew who practiced infant sacrifice to Baal , sacrificed his own son. AHAB were helping Queen Elizabeth Paint it Black, ie push her black cultural agenda and destroy Christianity. So Mick Jagger is putting out Paint it Black while living in The Langham, and AHAB had prominent black members including Sammy Davis Jr. (Church of Satan) , Bill Cosby, Sidney Poitier , and Harry Belafonte. Sidney Poitier was knighted by Queen Elizabeth. Meanwhile in 1966 John Lennon was subletting an adjoined apartment suite from actor Robert Ryans huge three story mansion sized 'apartment' atop The Dakota, which was really more like a manor house pinned to the top of a castle ,complete with little towers and turrets and hidden secret passages, designed by the same architect who created Singer Castle on Dark Island, the SKull n' Bones haunt depicted in 2006 film The Good Shepherd. John Lennon was living in The Dakota when Rosemary's Baby was filmed there. When this came out in research a few years agot the internet was scrubbed and they now claim that only the outside of The Dakota was used in filming on mainstream sites, but its still there in Google Books saying the exact opposite. Robert Ryan's apartment was used. And in 1972 Ryans wife died and Ryan moved out and sold the entire thing to John Lennon and Lennon lived there with Yoko. She still lives there in 2018, after purportedly witnessing her husband John Lennon shot at close range on the street outside the buildings front entrance. As if she would still be living there. Lennons 1980 shooting death was faked.which is why she still lives there.

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Interesting read. Thanks for posting.

Interesting what you said about the rise of black music. Do you have any theories on the emergence of rap and hop hop music in the same time period and the impact it has had on african-american culture in the USA. It idolises drug taking, selling drugs, gang affiliation, gang violence, gun toting, violent crimes and murder amongst other things.
 

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that's only one aspect of the black culture takeover though.
Yes, there is the dark side elemental affect on some blacks...
possibly an attempt to balance, a bit, the full-on onslaught and
eradication of white culture.
So its the black lining to the silver cloud/ silver platter gifted the blacks.
We have to remember that the Master Social Engineer wants full control,
at all times. Why replace one threat with another? ie. Why just replace one (white) threat
to her power with another (black) threat to her power? To end up right back where she started?

So...can we surmise thereon, that her lead opponent here was the literate,
somewhat resourceful and still somewhat intelligent white underclass/middle class?

Successfully targeted, obliterated, and replaced by her chosen ones....the blacks.

Who themselves , in turn, have to be largely decimated?

So how are the blacks seduced and tempted to take the bait?

They are sold a whole package, good and bad.

Like the proverbial poison apple.

Do I think the media helps blacks more than it damages them? Overall , yes. The blacks benefit
immensely from the overrepresentation and protection which they receive from our feminist,
cultural-Marxist media. In everything from news censorship, TV programming, movies, to sports
and music.

And lest we forget, the cultural favoritism in media is accompanied by a gigantic goodie-bag
of subsidies, preferential hiring, general media bias in concealing black violence, black racism
etc. Bused luxuriously to white-majority schools which favor them. Sympathetic to them as
the persecuted minority. Their music the trend at the school dance,
their community dominating school events and sports.

And when you get to the higher levels of college and university, the insanity is just through the roof on what white kids are subjected
to. The feminist propaganda teaching them all how evil their white fathers, their white nations, their white cultures are.
Same propaganda teaching them how much better and more deserving are the 'oppressed people of color'. Special history months
and classes devoted to singing their praises. Small wonder that white straight males are a disappearing breed at colleges nationwide.

So overall the blacks make out supremely well. Feared. Respected. Favored.
 
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by the way....

anyone searching the mysterious origins of the terms 'hip', 'hippies', 'hipster', 'hiphop':

look no farther than

hip hip ....hooray

- Jim Morrison's father was a Pentagon war planner in 1961, living in the Washington D.C. suburb of Alexandria.

- Jim Morrison's father Admiral George S. Morrison touched off the Vietnam War in 1964 with the Gulf of Tonkin incident

- his son rocker Jim Morrison was working psy-ops for Operation Chaos in Los Angeles, and formed his band 'The Doors' in 1965

- Nirvana drummer David Grohl's father James Harper Grohl was a speech writer for Richard Nixon.

- Richard Nixon was elected in 1968.

Admiral George S. Morrison probably knew James Harper Grohl, as both of them had links to what was essentially the public relations or propaganda arm of the White House war effort in Vietnam.
(propagandized false flag incidents like the Gulf of Tonkin)


- The Doors released their debut album in 1968.

So while James Grohl is writing speeches for Nixon, George Morrison is in charge of a fleet of aircraft carriers being sent to help Mao bomb Vietnam

Meanwhile , Jim Morrison is fabricating this 'anti-establishment street kid'/ hippie image in Los Angeles and putting out records telling kids to kill their fathers and * their mothers. Exactly the sort of thing that hippie Manson would tell kids to do . Kill the mother Sharon Tate etc.
Hip hippie hooray.

More false flag propaganda?

Then , to make the hippies look really dark, they fake the death of Jim Morrison in 1971.

Jim Morrison becomes the King of Deathrock.

And how is this for not a coincidence.

Pentagon insider and Vietnam War supporter James Harper Grohl's son, Dave Grohl, is installed as Nirvana's drummer.
He has long hippie hair. Nirvana go on to style themselves as 'anti-establishment peace-activists' (vocally opposed to the Gulf
War).

Then the lead singer of Nirvana, Kurt Cobain , becomes yet another King of Deathrock, purportedly dying like Jim Morrison purportedly died young. (actually both deaths faked at age 27)

Cobain even called himself a death rocker before his death was faked.

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We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons up yer bum.

Here , Sting may was well apply his analysis of the dismal hit 'Every Breath You Take'
to the entire album on which it appeared
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Absolute poison. Carefully formulated and widely dispersed, en masse.
Or, better. Apply his analysis to the entire psy-op which he was a small
part of.



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All very fascinating stuff.

Reading all this brings memories back as child in 70s.

I was born in 1970 and have often thought about how as a child my mum would have the radio going constantly with those old AM stations playing all those bleak, depressing songs of the late 60s and early 70s.

To this day if I hear some of those morbid songs mentioned here I get this extremely melancholy feeling.

Reminds me too of reading the bio book “ The Lives of John Lennon” by Albert Goldman (published in 1988) and wondering at the time why the #### would Lennon chose a place to live like the Dakota building.

Anyway...I’m conflicted about all this satanic stuff in Hollywood and the music industry that goes back to that late 60s period.

Is it all just one big marketing ploy aimed at the masses cause people like scary themes? Is it a conspiracy by the CIA to control things? It’s all a bit confusing and doesn’t make sense that loads of artists are in on the joke..or the satanic agenda idea that’s put forward so often.

At the same time as all those California hippy songs were getting pumped out in the late 60s, four blokes from Birmingham, England had an idea to get their unknown band off the ground and move away from playing cover songs in shitty pubs.

In Ozzy Osbourne’s brilliant autobiography he explains how Black Sabbath we’re getting no where fast and needed to start writing their own songs. Ozzy describes how Geeza Butler noticed at the time how hordes of people were flocking to movie theatres to see horror movies.

Butler suggested they start writing ‘scary’ songs with dark themes and bleak lyrics.

Their debut album “ Black Sabbath’ was released on Friday the 13th, February 1970 and was instantly hailed as a work of art. Not by critics of course who panned it. But by the thousands of new fans who flocked to record stores to buy this new style of dark and forbidden heavy sound.

They followed up quickly with their second album ‘paranoid’ at the end of 1970 which also was a massive seller and cemented the band as the gods of heavy metal.

Their third album ‘Sabbath Bloody Sabbath’ followed a couple years later continuing their dark, satanic image which was embraced by millions of fans world wide.

But reading Ozzy’s book, he explains how it was just all one big joke to them at the time. They couldnt give a #### about Satan worshipping and just stick to the formula as a gimmick to sell to their fans.

Meanwhile the other gods of heavy rock, Led Zeppelin, also embraced the themes of darkness and mythology with their lyrics.

Jimmy Page became obsessed with the occultist Alister Crowley and collected numerous Crowley memorabilia and bought his 17th century manor house in 1970 (just cause that’s what rock stars do).

Located near Loch Ness in Scotland, Page never actually lived much in Bolskine House but got a mate Malcolm Dent to stay there and renovate it who later told strange tales of how haunted the place was.

Boleskine House is 21 miles (34 km) south of Inverness, on the opposite side of Loch Ness from the Meall Fuar-mhonaidh, and halfway between the villages of Foyers and Inverfarigaig.
The area has a history of strange happenings long before Aleister Crowley moved in. The parish of Boleskine was formed in the 13th Century.[3] A Kirk and graveyard were built in the parish around this time. A succession of Ministers ran Boleskine Parish and would travel the area on horseback or on foot in all weather conditions. Minister Thomas Houston (1648-1705) was said to have had the task of hastily laying animated corpses back in their graves after a devious local wizard had raised the dead in Boleskine graveyard.
Boleskine House was built on the site of the kirk, which, according to legend, caught fire during congregation and killed everyone inside. The house was constructed in the 1760s by Colonel Archibald Fraser as a hunting lodge.

Although Dent was a sceptic of the paranormal he soon started to experience strange occurrences. After a few weeks, he heard strange rumblings from the hallway which stopped when he investigated, but resumed after he closed the bedroom door. After researching the house he discovered the rumbling in the hall was supposedly the head of Lord Lovat, even though he was executed in London. Dent explains "above Boleskine there's a place called Errogie which is supposed to be the geographical centre of the Highlands. Boleskine was then the nearest consecrated ground to Errogie and it's thought his soul, or part of it, ended here."[21][25]
Dent also experienced the "most terrifying night of my life" at Boleskine.[21] He awoke one night to hear what sounded like a wild animal snorting and banging outside his bedroom door. It went on for some time and it wasn't until morning that Dent dared open the door, and there was nothing there. Dent added "whatever was there was pure evil."[21] Another friend who stayed at Boleskine awoke one night claiming she had been attacked by "some kind of devil".[26] Other occurrences, such as chairs switching places, doors slamming open and closed for no reason and carpets and rugs rolling up inexplicably, failed to deter Dent from staying.[21] Dent met his wife at Boleskine and raised his family there.



Anyways...I don’t buy all this satanic worshipping stuff in music and in Hollywood.

Gene Simmons from Kiss decided in the mid 70s that his character in the band would be a satanic looking demon while the other 3 band mates went for a more milder image.

Why? Cause kids love that stuff and god fearing, conservative mums and dad are applauded by it all.

The Stones, Beatles, Beach Boys, Manson connection mentioned here is interesting stuff indeed.

But seriously....Jim Morrison’s death was fake? Lennon’s was fake? Narcissist superstars like that don’t just disappear out of the public eye to lead a quiet life somewhere else in the world.

Conspiracy theories are always tangled webs of facts and fantasies mixed together in one big cosmic soup of disinformation.

It’s difficult to put the pieces together even though there’s usually solid evidence to confirm certain things.

Probably just the way Satan himself likes it. Keep everyone guessing..
 
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But seriously....Jim Morrison’s death was fake? Lennon’s was fake? Narcissist superstars like that don’t just disappear out of the public eye to lead a quiet life somewhere else in the world.

Blanket statements like that about people who we've never met...seriously.

John Lennon hated fame at the end. He was so hounded by the paprazzi that he left public life. He disappeared from the whole
music scene for five years, after writing the song 'Fame' , which he wrote for David Bowie.

The song 'Fame' is John Lennon bitterly decrying his own life of fame.

"Fame - what you need you have to borrow.
Fame - what you get is no tomorrow."

That famous line describes what it is like to be so famous that you cannot even go out shopping in public for things that you need.
Because you will be pursued and hounded by the public hounded by photographers, and badgered by the press.

Hence the line: "What you need you have to borrow. What you get is no tomorrow."

He feels that he has placed himself in a hopeless situation.

Lennon wrote it for David Bowie and contributed in the studio with backup vocals and some very slick guitar work.
This song was inspired by Lennons personal experience of actually having to live the mass-hysteria of 'Beatlemania'.

released in 1975, exactly when John Lennon disappeared from music , from 1975-1980.



This is must read on the fake Lennon death:

Also see this link:

btw , it is now widely known that John Lennon was gay when he was purportedly murdered. He had given
up the pretense of his marriage, divorced Yoko , and had been an active member of New York's homosexual occult
community.

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Numerous pictures of Lennon in intimate friendships with gay David Bowie, gay Elton John, and gay Andy Warhol, etc., have
emerged. You don't move in those circles without.... you know what I mean. Even Snopes, notoriously lying Snopes, confirms
that Lennon was gay.

In 1975 Lennon saw the writing on the wall for him. The inevitability that he would be scandalously 'outed', and probably quite
viciously outed. As the hated Beatlemania man who had sprinted from adoring American and British women,
and into the arms of an oriental woman....

I mean come on...would his resentful female public have been kind to him when he was outed? He disappeared from music
for five years, as the 'outing' of many his gay musician friends proceeded without him.

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Gay John Lennon with gay Freddie Mercury

Probably a very big factor in John Lennon wanting to leave fame behind him. Forever.
 
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As for the psychological-warfare aspect of depressing music....
lest we forget that the rich and powerful are where they are mostly because they maintain a competitive advantage
over everyone else. They don't give a s**t what it takes to maintain that, they will do whatever it takes to maintain
that.
So to them, decimating entire populations with planned wars , planned outbreaks of plagues, artificially engineered
famines....its par for the course. Its about maintaining power at all cost.

Even if it means tainting the city drinking water with toxins, creating fake news, funding radical feminism or faking news
events. If you print the world's money, the world is your little toy, to do with as you please.

So ....poison the water with Fluoride , poison the vaccines with mercury and/or live viruses, feed the masses garbage
like wheat and sugar and booze.

Conduct psychological warfare on a massive scale, worldwide.

Because they don't want to have to contend with a fully informed,
resourceful, healthy , robust population.

And a component of that psychological warfare is....depressing , disgusting, discouraging music. Torrents of it.
Meant to sicken and weaken people.
 
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As for the psychological aspect of depressing music....
lest we forget that the rich and powerful are where they are mostly because they maintain a competitive advantage
over everyone else. They don't give a s**t what it takes to maintain that, they will do whatever it takes to maintain
that.
So to them, decimating entire populations with planned wars , planned outbreaks of plagues, artificially engineered
famines....its par for the course. Its about maintaining power at all cost.

Even if it means tainting the city drinking water with toxins, creating fake news, funding radical feminism or faking news
events. If you print the world's money, the world is your little toy, to do with as you please.

So ....poison the water with Fluoride , poison the vaccines with mercury and/or live viruses, feed the masses garbage
like wheat and sugar and booze.

Conduct psychological warfare on a massive scale, worldwide.

Because they don't want to have to contend with a fully informed,
resourceful, healthy , robust population.

And a component of that psychological warfare is....depressing , disgusting, discouraging music. Torrents of it.
Meant to sicken and weaken people.

#### me dead...I’ve been reading for hours and I’ve got a mild headache. Fascinating stuff though. That miles Mathis link website is gold.

Once I ploughed through the Lennon thing...I clicked on the CS Lewis story he so brilliantly discusses.

For 30 years I’ve been arguing and putting my opinion forth with fellow writers and classic book lovers/readers about how his Nadia books are a complete load of abdominal, boring rubbish.

I’ve never met a single human who agrees with me.

Now I know why.


Anyway, I’ve got loads more to say about all this. Pity it’s under a Charles Manson tilted thread..but that’s not important.

That Lennon movie is truely suspect I must say. I have to digest it more.

Chapman, the CIA doorman , the last photograph ..the mole on the side of his cheek etc

The micheal Jackson stuff is even more of a head ####.

A lot to think about...

But it’s great 🙂

By the way...I’ll let you know I’m a life long Bowie fanatic..40 years of Bowie in my soul and I’m an expert in everything about his life.

‘Fame’ the song might be a Lennon co-writing venture...but I can tell you now that Carlos Alomar had a lot to do with “ Young Americans” the album.

He drove the sound of that song with his funky guitar riffs and was a massive influence on Bowie in that period.

As was the habit of Bowie through out his career...every time he wanted something new he’d change his studio guitar player.

And only the best would do.
 
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Beatlemania was faked?!?!?
Dude they wrote heaps of anti-government songs. I'm not sure that angle really holds up.

Interesting read though!

The roots of Beatlemania were fake, yes. The fad caught on, with kids.... no question. It became sort of real. Like many a fad has caught on
with impressionable children involved. In fact people in general will conform to peer pressure , to fit in, and maybe not really even feel any authentic 'vibe' at all. No emotions to channel. Just some artificial emoting to do. Done in the hope that it may lead to something real.

So we have the very real probability that people bought the lie that there was some sort of 'mania' to tap into,
and it all looked like a lot of fun , so...
Boredom leads to desperation. A lifeline like the next fad or mania or 'trend' comes along, and the starving masses grab it.

So a check of the bullshit meter, always reliable , confirms the probability that a lot of young girls secretly said to themselves:

"Oh, sure, Beatlemania. Yeah, right. But what the heck, let's try out being a part of it ourselves. It might be fun."

Think back to your own teen days. Feeling lost and left adrift , isolated in a sea of popular culture hype. Hype which never
seemed to include you. Which never clued you in. You never got the invite. Never found out the secret handshake or the
secret afterparty, to get in on all the excitement.

So in desperation , you bought records and concert tickets, hoping to find the key to it all,
to tap into the vibe behind all the hype. And never really succeeded, while parting with a lot of dearly-needed money on the way.

In other words, paying for what , in the end, only amounted to an expensive education in the fact that there was nothing really there in the first place. Obtuse lyrics, frenzied marketing, mysterious personas....all designed to intrigue you and fleece you and even get you to try the drugs , in case the drugs were key to understanding it all.


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Blanket statements like that about people who we've never met...seriously.

John Lennon hated fame at the end. He was so hounded by the paprazzi that he left public life. He disappeared from the whole
music scene for five years, after writing the song 'Fame' , which he wrote for David Bowie.

The song 'Fame' is John Lennon roundly renouncing of his life of fame.

"Fame - what you need you have to borrow.
Fame - what you get is no tomorrow."

That famous line describes what it is like to be so famous that you cannot even go out shopping in public for things that you need.
Because you will be pursued and hounded by the public hounded by photographers, and badgered by the press.

Hence the line: "What you need you have to borrow. What you get is no tomorrow."

He feels that he has placed himself in a hopeless situation.

Lennon wrote it for David Bowie and contributed in the studio with backup vocals and some very slick guitar work.
This song was inspired by Lennons personal experience of actually having to live the mass-hysteria of 'Beatlemania'.

released in 1975, exactly when John Lennon disappeared from music , from 1975-1980.



This is must read on the fake Lennon death:

Also see this link:

btw , it is now widely known that John Lennon was gay when he was purportedly murdered. He had given
up the pretense of his marriage, divorced Yoko , and had been an active member of New York's homosexual occult
community.

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Numerous pictures of Lennon in intimate friendships with gay David Bowie, gay Elton John, and gay Andy Warhol, etc., have
emerged. You don't move in those circles without.... you know what I mean. Even Snopes, notoriously lying Snopes, confirms
that Lennon was gay.

In 1975 Lennon saw the writing on the wall for him. The inevitably that he would be scandalously 'outed', and probably quite
viciously outed. As the hated Beatlemania man who had sprinted from adoring American and British women,
and into the arms of an oriental woman....

I mean come on...would his resentful female public have been kind to him when he was outed? He disappeared from music
for five years, as the 'outing' of many his gay musician friends proceeded without him.

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Gay John Lennon with gay Freddie Mercury

Probably a very big factor in John Lennon wanting to leave fame behind him. Forever.


I missed your bit about Bowie the other day...I can tell you now..he wasn’t gay.

Bit of bi sexual stuff in his early days with first wife Angie mucking around with group sex ...but all in all he wasn’t gay. But it’s well known he had a massive dong on him..which of course would’ve been a particularly impressive interest to all gay men. But he’s far from the same league as Elton and Freddie who lived the gay life to its absolute fullest.

Have you seen his second wife Imran? No gay man would marry a woman like that. 6255CD84-ABCC-416D-A6C6-0868F663768F.jpeg
 
Beatle mania was certainly real during their Australian tour. Out of control..can’t fake that.

Can fake that. sadly. The proof is that they DID fake exactly the same thing for scenes in
the Beatles fictional movie 'Hard Days Night', which depicted Beatlemania as convincingly
as any of the purported 'real' scenes of it (in real life).

You and I could fake being rabid fans at any concert of any band this summer, and have all sorts of fun
doing it.

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