Matildas The Matildas Thread

[Tigerssaints]

SMH suggested we dropped from 4 to 6 in world rankings , never be a coach !!
FIFA tech committee
this was the only report i could find on last years, asian cup
doesnt say much so if any one else can finf it post the link

http://www.the-afc.com/afc/documents/PdfFiles/tsg-report-afc-women-s-asian-cup-jordan-2018

 

[Ron The Bear]

Of the 142 responses to the Our Watch survey, only three were from players. Were the participants hand-selected to achieve an outcome?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...s/news-story/767b14891d76baed5aa7961249cdc834

(possibly paywalled - I accessed it by clearing browser cache and Googling the headline)

 

[nobbyiscool]

LOOSER
LOOSER

This is amazing



(Though I doubt you have any idea why)

 

[drd23]

From the article from The Australian above:

“As for the surveys, you would think as an integral part of the set-up I would have been asked to do it, but I was never asked.”

It has been revealed that the Our Watch survey received 142 replies, but only three were from the Matildas and the suggestion is that most responses came from parents of some of the players, and staff and partners.

I'm not sure how reputable the results could have been if they were largely based on what amounts to hearsay. Also, why would you not survey the coaches? Surely they are the ones around the most?

 

[Kwality]

Of the 142 responses to the Our Watch survey, only three were from players. Were the participants hand-selected to achieve an outcome?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...s/news-story/767b14891d76baed5aa7961249cdc834

(possibly paywalled - I accessed it by clearing browser cache and Googling the headline)

You can be sure the lawyers love this .... when Tracey Holmes took the early running on this I smelt a rat. I'm hoping the back story gets the good airing it must, for the Matildas & for the game, SNAFU is the norm.

Even Aunty seems to be looking:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01...ights-growing-pains-for-womens-sport/10747532
But in both the politics and what few specifics have been revealed, broader and often unspoken issues for the Matildas and other women's teams have come to light.
Perhaps the most pertinent is whether those who have done much to establish and advance women's football can, and should, relinquish control.

Yes, I've cherrypicked the above:
unspoken issues for the Matildas and other women's teams
Lets hope the other sports handle the issues raised as a warning If they are involved with Our Watch.

 

[juss]

This women's team at the 2019 World Cup is Australia's best chance of having a football team go deep into a World Cup. The men are nowhere near the European and South American powerhouses and won't be for a long time.

We have a tough group with Brazil and Italy, but the Matildas are quality and can beat anyone on their day. It's a bit of a golden generation too with a few star players playing together at once.

 

[corbies]

Best to ignore Tracey Holmes.

And what’s this about team mates sleeping together? That’s ******. Be straight, bi, tri whatever but it can never be good for teammates to be sharing a bed.

This isn't necessarily true. South African (and Sydney Sixers) cricketers Dane Van Niekirk and Marizanne Kapp are married. Nicole Bolton and Elyse Villani dated for a few years before recently splitting. They still play for the Scorchers and Australia together.

 

[juss]

This isn't necessarily true. South African (and Sydney Sixers) cricketers Dane Van Niekirk and Marizanne Kapp are married. Nicole Bolton and Elyse Villani dated for a few years before recently splitting. They still play for the Scorchers and Australia together.

I dont think its great to have locker room romances, it might work okay but it's also got the potential to completely blow up in your face, especially in tournament situations where team harmony and chemistry is key.

Not breaking any rules, but I'd just prefer it otherwise. I've seen the good and the bad of workplace romances where I work. Sometimes it's fine, other times it has resulted in one person leaving the company.

 

[stax on the mull]

Gallop didn't say much in that press conference he held on Monday afternoon, but he did say that the surveys weren't the sole reason why Stajcic's contract was terminated. It was reported in the Age that the Our Watch survey made no recommendation about dismissing Stajcic.

 

[stax on the mull]

This women's team at the 2019 World Cup is Australia's best chance of having a football team go deep into a World Cup. The men are nowhere near the European and South American powerhouses and won't be for a long time.

We have a tough group with Brazil and Italy, but the Matildas are quality and can beat anyone on their day. It's a bit of a golden generation too with a few star players playing together at once.

I think we'll get out of the group. We've had the measure of Brazil in recent times. They're our highest ranked opponents in Group C. Jamaica I think are first time entrants to the Women's World Cup and Italy probably will be tough with likely lots of travelling fans supporting them in France.

Our issue is that we don't play against the powerhouse European teams - Germany, France and now England who were behind us are now ahead of us.
USA we've beaten once and drawn with once in the past 2 years at the Tournament of Nations (Brazil, USA, Japan, Aust).

But as you say, when it comes to the knockout stage, its on the day, we'll be underdogs, but we've got the players capable of beating anyone.

 

[Tigerssaints]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer...led-to-stajcic-s-sacking-20190125-p50tlk.html

 

[drd23]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer...led-to-stajcic-s-sacking-20190125-p50tlk.html

That article says much of what I expected to be the actual case, although I was expecting skin fold testing to have been perceived as body shaming by some (and its good that it apparently wasn't).

Interesting that there hasn't been anything about any of the support staff (that were the actual problem if this article is correct) losing their jobs. Or about Gary van Egmond

 

[Ron The Bear]

I dont think its great to have locker room romances, it might work okay but it's also got the potential to completely blow up in your face, especially in tournament situations where team harmony and chemistry is key.

Not breaking any rules, but I'd just prefer it otherwise. I've seen the good and the bad of workplace romances where I work. Sometimes it's fine, other times it has resulted in one person leaving the company.

A bloke I work with (old school and very politically incorrect) coaches a women's AFL team. 22 of the squad of 30 are lesbians; some are in relationships with teammates, some with opposition players, which creates all sorts of interesting situations. It's below professional level, but there's no reason to think it's not the norm in certain women's sports.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Maybe I'm just slow on the uptake but nothing in that article explained why Stajcic should be sacked. If anything, it sounded like Van Egmond should have been sacked. I wonder if the player referred to in the article as being treated differently was Van Egmond's daughter.

 

[drd23]

aybe I'm just slow on the uptake but nothing in that article explained why Stajcic should be sacked.

If that article is accurate, then Stajcic's firing can only be for a reason similar to why people thought Lehmann and Sutherland should have been sacked after Sandpaper-gate - a lack of leadership in stopping the problems from happening in the first place. And if that was the case, Gallop and the FFA did him a huge disservice by making it seem like he was the perpetrator of the acts that created the "toxic culture".

 

[drd23]

I wonder if the player referred to in the article as being treated differently was Van Egmond's daughter.

Oh, and on this it seems much of Twitter seems to be assuming that, but:

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Larissa Crummer out of the World Cup. Broke her leg in a bad challenge from the Adelaide United keeper (who received a yellow card).

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Written yesterday before the latest article. But still a good article to read.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/01/25/ffas-actions-make-it-seem-like-theyve-got-something-to-hide/

 

[nobbyiscool]

Oh, and on this it seems much of Twitter seems to be assuming that, but:

Awful lot of words written about the Matilda's situation this week by people who I've never seen write about women's football before, but who still apparently expect to be treated as authorities on it.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Don't think this one's been posted.

‘They’re out to get you’: Stajcic warned of alleged plot to have him sacked

"It’s good for me – but it's not so good for you". These are the words that Football Federation Association chief executive David Gallop said to Matildas coach Alen Stajcic in November last year when a new board was installed.

Months before that, an FFA board member warned Stajcic that powerful forces within the game wanted him sacked and replaced with a female coach. "They're out to get you," he was told.

 

[juss]

Don't think this one's been posted.

‘They’re out to get you’: Stajcic warned of alleged plot to have him sacked

Has it been revealed why he was sacked? Certainly wasn't due to poor results.

I hope they hire the most capable manager of football teams whether that's a male or female coach and not just a female for the sake of having a female coach for a female team.

 

[stax on the mull]

Here's the story from back in November about Mary Fowler

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...fowler-to-ireland-over-stajcic-remarks/?cs=12

 

[drd23]

Here's the story from back in November about Mary Fowler

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...fowler-to-ireland-over-stajcic-remarks/?cs=12

What exactly was wrong with those comments?

 

[stax on the mull]

What exactly was wrong with those comments?

Not sure of the context, although the line "Their family has trodden a unique path, and who are we to judge whether it's the right or wrong path?..." probably wouldn't sound good if you were hearing it said about your family, just because it implies that some people think it might be the wrong path.

Just posting it because I mentioned it previously and its roughly in the same time frame as the surveys, so I'm thinking it could have been one of the contributing factors .

 

[drd23]

Moving your entire family between multiple different countries so that you can work with different coaches is different/unique though, and the rest of the comment that was in that article was fairly respectful. Unless there was more to the comments than what's published there (like perhaps a sarcastic tone, or other more obviously negative comments), I the only problem I'd see is that the father is/was too sensitive.