Toast The media....*Nods Head*

[chiwigi]

You are aware that the MFS only do one intake every two years right?

You know he would have only had to wait a little while if he had played the season out right?
You know he could have properly decided that it was what he wanted if he had right?
You know he was immediately doing shitloads of media work rather than concentrating on his 'dream' right?
You know he probably had enough work and money to tide him over for a year or two right?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Nah. Knowing his personality. His concerns about his children and family and not wanting to have to move interstate. He needed security and perhaps didn't think he would get enough media work.

 

[Steve Dore]

Nah. Knowing his personality. His concerns about his children and family and not wanting to have to move interstate. He needed security and perhaps didn't think he would get enough media work.

Poor Kane, starved of career options.

 

[chiwigi]

Poor Kane, starved of career options.

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He's the Jarryd Hayne of post footy careers, more dreams than a shed full of shepherds.

 

[fireboy]

You are aware that the MFS only do one intake every two years right?

"Its simply dumb that we expect him to have know that the MFS was not for him without trying first"

I don't agree with this statement, to go through the process, the PAT ( Physical aptitude test aspects 1 & 2 then Psych test/assessment, interview and then questions he badgered fire fighters about knew exactly what it was about. Simply you cant get in if you don't do your home work, its a very competitive process. The MFS do a process about every two years, cab rank the top 80 or so and run a Drill Squad 20 at a time pending on retirements resignation etc .

Personally I hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out wasted somewhere about $100K of tax payers money AND some one who really wanted the job missed out. He better be good for us in the media

 

[chiwigi]

"Its simply dumb that we expect him to have know that the MFS was not for him without trying first"

I don't agree with this statement, to go through the process, the PAT ( Physical aptitude test aspects 1 & 2 then Psych test/assessment, interview and then questions he badgered fire fighters about knew exactly what it was about. Simply you cant get in if you don't do your home work, its a very competitive process. The MFS do a process about every two years, cab rank the top 80 or so and run a Drill Squad 20 at a time pending on retirements resignation etc .

Personally I hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out wasted somewhere about $100K of tax payers money AND some one who really wanted the job missed out. He better be good for us in the media

A friend of mine was one of those passed over in that trenche (just) apparently a masters level education and ten years in the CFS is not as important as being an ex footballer.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

"Its simply dumb that we expect him to have know that the MFS was not for him without trying first"

I don't agree with this statement, to go through the process, the PAT ( Physical aptitude test aspects 1 & 2 then Psych test/assessment, interview and then questions he badgered fire fighters about knew exactly what it was about. Simply you cant get in if you don't do your home work, its a very competitive process. The MFS do a process about every two years, cab rank the top 80 or so and run a Drill Squad 20 at a time pending on retirements resignation etc .

Personally I hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out wasted somewhere about $100K of tax payers money AND some one who really wanted the job missed out. He better be good for us in the media

Fire up fireboy!!!

 

[John the Butcher]

He's the Jarryd Hayne of post footy careers, more dreams than a shed full of shepherds.

*Sees said post, thinks Jarryd hayne, scrolls down and sees this*

 

[AdsGoNads]

Poor Kane, starved of career options.

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He scratched a few itches in quick succession!

 

[OneGreatClub]

Did I just hear that Kochie is going to be a regular on 5AA every monday from now on?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Did I just hear that Kochie is going to be a regular on 5AA every monday from now on?

Yes the morning show

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Great, so kate ellis's husband and graham gooding's son can ask him what he thinks of the crows

 

[OneGreatClub]

Great, so kate ellis's husband and graham gooding's son can ask him what he thinks of the crows

this

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Good article by Tredders in the 'Tsier today about Port's season.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/88f9faac2de2041e2ea93a35fed221e3

Correctly pointed out the "pivotal day when the small snowball turned into an avalanche rolling down the hill -January 13th." .." That was the day Port Adelaide's team structure was dealt a severe blow...."

Tredders thought "they'd be OK - but the magnitude of the loss has been huge." But he correctly talks about the injuries we picked up. Said they aren't an excuse but they are a reality and have torn apart Port's on field structure.

Reckons the crows have lost 86 player/matched to injury for 2nd best in AFL behind Saints and Eagles on 69. We have lost 116 games to he ranked 10th but those rankings don't rank quality. The 2 players suspended by CAS effectively are another 38 with Ryder and Monfries. He doesn't mention it but throw in Jonas' brain fade and there is 6 more.

Looks at the injuries. Said Port have lost 10 of its best 22 players to injuries for part of the season:
Gray, Hartlett, Hombsch, Wingard, Jonas, Schulz, Lobbe, White, Carlile and Dixon.

Asks about the fitness department but points out only 3 have been soft tissue issues that have resulted in more than 2 games lost - Hombsch 9 games hammy/calf and now hip surgery, Jonas 4 games and Gray 3 games so reckons you can't blame the fitness department for the rest that have been collision type injuries.

So given the 12 players effected, he say's it's little wonder we have been so inconsistent. But says he can't forgive the Carlton loss after being 3 goals up in the last quarter and then losing to the injury ravaged Dockers. Says it's also inexcusable to have to question a team's effort and it's been a discussion point too many times this year.

"Not much has gone to plan in 2016, many questions have been asked and with too few answers. Are Port's players mentally tough enough? Is the list over rated? Have the coaches got a back up plan if the fast paced footy doesn't work. All valid questions that need to be answered next year." and then says:

"But like all teams, you need your best players on the park to perform and Port hasn't had that. Any team missing 12 players out of its best team would struggle to shine. Some say this is the year Port had to have - I disagree. The year started with great promise and expectation, but on January 13 it quickly took a turn for the worse."

We have never had 12 of our best out in one game but in the majority of games this year we have had had at least 8 and in one game 11 of our best out.

 

[Chrizzt]

Good article by Tredders in the 'Tsier today about Port's season.

Correctly pointed out the "pivotal day when the small snowball turned into an avalanche rolling down the hill -January 13th." .." That was the day Port Adelaide's team structure was dealt a severe blow...."

Tredders thought "they'd be OK - but the magnitude of the loss has been huge." But he correctly talks about the injuries we picked up. Said they aren't an excuse but they are a reality and have torn apart Port's on field structure.

Reckons the crows have lost 86 player/matched to injury for 2nd best in AFL behind Saints and Eagles on 69. We have lost 116 games to he ranked 10th but those rankings don't rank quality. The 2 players suspended by CAS effectively are another 38 with Ryder and Monfries. He doesn't mention it but throw in Jonas' brain fade and there is 6 more.

Looks at the injuries. Said Port have lost 10 of its best 22 players to injuries for part of the season:
Gray, Hartlett, Hombsch, Wingard, Jonas, Schulz, Lobbe, White, Carlile and Dixon.

Asks about the fitness department but points out only 3 have been soft tissue issues that have resulted in more than 2 games lost - Hombsch 9 games hammy/calf and now hip surgery, Jonas 4 games and Gray 3 games so reckons you can't blame the fitness department for the rest that have been collision type injuries.

So given the 12 players effected, he say's it's little wonder we have been so inconsistent. But says he can't forgive the Carlton loss after being 3 goals up in the last quarter and then losing to the injury ravaged Dockers. Says it's also inexcusable to have to question a team's effort and it's been a discussion point too many times this year.

"Not much has gone to plan in 2016, many questions have been asked and with too few answers. Are Port's players mentally tough enough? Is the list over rated? Have the coaches got a back up plan if the fast paced footy doesn't work. All valid questions that need to be answered next year." and then says:

"But like all teams, you need your best players on the park to perform and Port hasn't had that. Any team missing 12 players out of its best team would struggle to shine. Some say this is the year Port had to have - I disagree. The year started with great promise and expectation, but on January 13 it quickly took a turn for the worse."

We have never had 12 of our best out in one game but in the majority of games this year we have had had at least 8 and in one game 11 of our best out.

Yeah, I've been meaning to actually look in to that one. So many people slamming Burgess, and I'm pretty sure its unwarranted, as is strongly indicated with that fact

 

[Contested Marx]

Good article by Tredders in the 'Tsier today about Port's season.

Correctly pointed out the "pivotal day when the small snowball turned into an avalanche rolling down the hill -January 13th." .." That was the day Port Adelaide's team structure was dealt a severe blow...."

Tredders thought "they'd be OK - but the magnitude of the loss has been huge." But he correctly talks about the injuries we picked up. Said they aren't an excuse but they are a reality and have torn apart Port's on field structure.

Reckons the crows have lost 86 player/matched to injury for 2nd best in AFL behind Saints and Eagles on 69. We have lost 116 games to he ranked 10th but those rankings don't rank quality. The 2 players suspended by CAS effectively are another 38 with Ryder and Monfries. He doesn't mention it but throw in Jonas' brain fade and there is 6 more.

Looks at the injuries. Said Port have lost 10 of its best 22 players to injuries for part of the season:
Gray, Hartlett, Hombsch, Wingard, Jonas, Schulz, Lobbe, White, Carlile and Dixon.

Asks about the fitness department but points out only 3 have been soft tissue issues that have resulted in more than 2 games lost - Hombsch 9 games hammy/calf and now hip surgery, Jonas 4 games and Gray 3 games so reckons you can't blame the fitness department for the rest that have been collision type injuries.

So given the 12 players effected, he say's it's little wonder we have been so inconsistent. But says he can't forgive the Carlton loss after being 3 goals up in the last quarter and then losing to the injury ravaged Dockers. Says it's also inexcusable to have to question a team's effort and it's been a discussion point too many times this year.

"Not much has gone to plan in 2016, many questions have been asked and with too few answers. Are Port's players mentally tough enough? Is the list over rated? Have the coaches got a back up plan if the fast paced footy doesn't work. All valid questions that need to be answered next year." and then says:

"But like all teams, you need your best players on the park to perform and Port hasn't had that. Any team missing 12 players out of its best team would struggle to shine. Some say this is the year Port had to have - I disagree. The year started with great promise and expectation, but on January 13 it quickly took a turn for the worse."

We have never had 12 of our best out in one game but in the majority of games this year we have had had at least 8 and in one game 11 of our best out.

"no but footscray has had it worse"

"you had Ryder last year and you added Dixon so..."

I shall point these comments to this article in future

Edit: Wow, don't read the reader (Facebook) comments on that article

 

[TeeKray]

Good article by Tredders in the 'Tsier today about Port's season.

Correctly pointed out the "pivotal day when the small snowball turned into an avalanche rolling down the hill -January 13th." .." That was the day Port Adelaide's team structure was dealt a severe blow...."

Tredders thought "they'd be OK - but the magnitude of the loss has been huge." But he correctly talks about the injuries we picked up. Said they aren't an excuse but they are a reality and have torn apart Port's on field structure.

Reckons the crows have lost 86 player/matched to injury for 2nd best in AFL behind Saints and Eagles on 69. We have lost 116 games to he ranked 10th but those rankings don't rank quality. The 2 players suspended by CAS effectively are another 38 with Ryder and Monfries. He doesn't mention it but throw in Jonas' brain fade and there is 6 more.

Looks at the injuries. Said Port have lost 10 of its best 22 players to injuries for part of the season:
Gray, Hartlett, Hombsch, Wingard, Jonas, Schulz, Lobbe, White, Carlile and Dixon.

Asks about the fitness department but points out only 3 have been soft tissue issues that have resulted in more than 2 games lost - Hombsch 9 games hammy/calf and now hip surgery, Jonas 4 games and Gray 3 games so reckons you can't blame the fitness department for the rest that have been collision type injuries.

So given the 12 players effected, he say's it's little wonder we have been so inconsistent. But says he can't forgive the Carlton loss after being 3 goals up in the last quarter and then losing to the injury ravaged Dockers. Says it's also inexcusable to have to question a team's effort and it's been a discussion point too many times this year.

"Not much has gone to plan in 2016, many questions have been asked and with too few answers. Are Port's players mentally tough enough? Is the list over rated? Have the coaches got a back up plan if the fast paced footy doesn't work. All valid questions that need to be answered next year." and then says:

"But like all teams, you need your best players on the park to perform and Port hasn't had that. Any team missing 12 players out of its best team would struggle to shine. Some say this is the year Port had to have - I disagree. The year started with great promise and expectation, but on January 13 it quickly took a turn for the worse."

We have never had 12 of our best out in one game but in the majority of games this year we have had had at least 8 and in one game 11 of our best out.

All of this is predicated on the idea that our best 22 is anything better than middle of the road, which it isn't. As has been discussed on this forum many times, some of the changes we have been forced to make have actually made our team better not worse (eg a smaller and more mobile back line, DBJ coming into the team, Trengove into the ruck). And the bulk of our so-called best players - Boak, Hartlett, R.Gray, Wingard, Wines - have barely missed a game between them.

When will we dispense of this idea that 2014 (14-8, 5th) was the real Port Adelaide when it is clearly the odd year out against 2013 (12-10, 8th), 2015 (12-10, 9th) and 2016 (9-9, 9th) which all demonstrate we are a middle of the road, 50-50 team?

Our best 22 this year would have finished 7th-8th at best. The injuries/suspensions have been a positive because they have forced us to pump games into Austin, Clurey, Howard, DBJ, Amon, Impey, etc, who are our future and the players we need to develop in order to push further up the ladder rather than remain stranded in mid table mediocrity.

 

[Pappagallo]

All of this is predicated on the idea that our best 22 is anything better than middle of the road, which it isn't. As has been discussed on this forum many times, some of the changes we have been forced to make have actually made our team better not worse (eg a smaller and more mobile back line, DBJ coming into the team, Trengove into the ruck). And the bulk of our so-called best players - Boak, Hartlett, R.Gray, Wingard, Wines - have barely missed a game between them.

When will we dispense of this idea that 2014 (14-8, 5th) was the real Port Adelaide when it is clearly the odd year out against 2013 (12-10, 8th), 2015 (12-10, 9th) and 2016 (9-9, 9th) which all demonstrate we are a middle of the road, 50-50 team?

Our best 22 this year would have finished 7th-8th at best. The injuries/suspensions have been a positive because they have forced us to pump games into Austin, Clurey, Howard, DBJ, Amon, Impey, etc, who are our future and the players we need to develop in order to push further up the ladder rather than remain stranded in mid table mediocrity.

The gap between 2nd and 8th is ridiculously small this year.

If we we're firing on all cylinders it's not that much of a stretch to suggest we could've easily made the Top 4.

 

[Coobk001]

Yeah, I've been meaning to actually look in to that one. So many people slamming Burgess, and I'm pretty sure its unwarranted, as is strongly indicated with that fact

If you add up all the injuries this year, including the glut of foot injuries we saw to start the season, then all the soft tissue injuries during the year I think that he's going to come out looking a lot worse than Tredders suggests.

I was saying before round 1 we were in big injury trouble but everyone told me I was an idiot, but we had too many players injured and we hadn't been careful enough given we started the year effectively 2 down. We were really poorly prepared and hit the season with far too many players out, and as expected that only got worse as the season progressed.

 

[bomberclifford]

Our year has been disappointing, even with the key injuries/suspensions we've had.

 

[Powerade 08]

If we we're firing on all cylinders it's not that much of a stretch to suggest we could've easily made the Top 4.

As in, we just flick a switch and learn how to set up at the centre bounce, how to take a kick out, how to lead and find targets inside 50 and how to show effort or more than 10 minutes?

If we could do that then sure, we're close to being a top 4 side. Otherwise 2014 was our peak and it's all gonna be downhill from here like it was after 2007.

 

[Janus]

As in, we just flick a switch and learn how to set up at the centre bounce, how to take a kick out, how to lead and find targets inside 50 and how to show effort or more than 10 minutes?

If we could do that then sure, we're close to being a top 4 side. Otherwise 2014 was our peak and it's all gonna be downhill from here like it was after 2007.

Having a ruck who can actually win hitouts will help with the first point. Having him being available as a marking option at kickouts like every other side in the league does will help with the second as well.

So it's just the last two that need work. The first comes from practice and learning to be situationally aware. The second comes from the experience gained from that practice. And those two things are occurring right now.

A simple question - have we got better or worse as the season has progressed? If everyone was fit, would the side that is going to face Sydney this weekend have beaten St Kilda in R1 by a larger margin than we did?

I would say they would.

 

[Far Kern]

Good article by Tredders in the 'Tsier today about Port's season.

Correctly pointed out the "pivotal day when the small snowball turned into an avalanche rolling down the hill -January 13th." .." That was the day Port Adelaide's team structure was dealt a severe blow...."

Tredders thought "they'd be OK - but the magnitude of the loss has been huge." But he correctly talks about the injuries we picked up. Said they aren't an excuse but they are a reality and have torn apart Port's on field structure.

Reckons the crows have lost 86 player/matched to injury for 2nd best in AFL behind Saints and Eagles on 69. We have lost 116 games to he ranked 10th but those rankings don't rank quality. The 2 players suspended by CAS effectively are another 38 with Ryder and Monfries. He doesn't mention it but throw in Jonas' brain fade and there is 6 more.

Looks at the injuries. Said Port have lost 10 of its best 22 players to injuries for part of the season:
Gray, Hartlett, Hombsch, Wingard, Jonas, Schulz, Lobbe, White, Carlile and Dixon.

Asks about the fitness department but points out only 3 have been soft tissue issues that have resulted in more than 2 games lost - Hombsch 9 games hammy/calf and now hip surgery, Jonas 4 games and Gray 3 games so reckons you can't blame the fitness department for the rest that have been collision type injuries.

So given the 12 players effected, he say's it's little wonder we have been so inconsistent. But says he can't forgive the Carlton loss after being 3 goals up in the last quarter and then losing to the injury ravaged Dockers. Says it's also inexcusable to have to question a team's effort and it's been a discussion point too many times this year.

"Not much has gone to plan in 2016, many questions have been asked and with too few answers. Are Port's players mentally tough enough? Is the list over rated? Have the coaches got a back up plan if the fast paced footy doesn't work. All valid questions that need to be answered next year." and then says:

"But like all teams, you need your best players on the park to perform and Port hasn't had that. Any team missing 12 players out of its best team would struggle to shine. Some say this is the year Port had to have - I disagree. The year started with great promise and expectation, but on January 13 it quickly took a turn for the worse."

We have never had 12 of our best out in one game but in the majority of games this year we have had had at least 8 and in one game 11 of our best out.

Good post. Unlike last year, this year it's easy to figure out what's gone wrong, and it's this. At the start of next year we'll be significantly better off for it. The one criticism of our list over recent years that I agree with is lack of depth. Jacko, DBJ, Impey, Austin, Clurey, Young, and Amon imo have all shown that they have what it takes either as new players or in new roles. Polly another year on from serious injury, Bonner and Snelling really look the goods. Throw this years unavailable players back into the mix, have a look in particular at our forward-entry setups, and this squad can easily pick up the two goals needed to be a serious top 4 threat.

 

[chiwigi]

As in, we just flick a switch and learn how to set up at the centre bounce, how to take a kick out, how to lead and find targets inside 50 and how to show effort or more than 10 minutes?

If we could do that then sure, we're close to being a top 4 side. Otherwise 2014 was our peak and it's all gonna be downhill from here like it was after 2007.

Missing a ruck, 2 key defenders and your best forward for nearly all of the season would harm most teams. It certainly would have helped win one or two more games.

 

[Pappagallo]

Having a ruck who can actually win hitouts will help with the first point. Having him being available as a marking option at kickouts like every other side in the league does will help with the second as well.

So it's just the last two that need work. The first comes from practice and learning to be situationally aware. The second comes from the experience gained from that practice. And those two things are occurring right now.

A simple question - have we got better or worse as the season has progressed? If everyone was fit, would the side that is going to face Sydney this weekend have beaten St Kilda in R1 by a larger margin than we did?

I would say they would.

I agree there is good cause to be optimistic once Paddy comes back.

The last few games of 2015 proved that Ryder sans Lobbe works to great effect. It probably partially explains the increase in output from our 2nd tier midfielders (SGray and Ah Chee) during those games as well.

As for the forwards, well I'm just imagining a Dixon/Butcher tandem effort and trying to contain an immediate!