Roast The media....*Shakes Head* Part 4

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It's not the concept that's shit. The original Seattle 12th man is done magnificently.

It's just poorly executed in Adelaide's case because there's no genuine passion behind it.
That's because the 12th Man was an organic concept borne out of the passion that Seattle fans had for their team.

The 19th Man is an artificial construct borne out of the desire to CREATE passion for the team.
 

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"Hey we've got this shit branding that embarrasses the fans and is a source of unending mirth to all others... do we lose it, or double down?"

"By golly, we double down!"
 

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That's because the 12th Man was an organic concept borne out of the passion that Seattle fans had for their team.

The 19th Man is an artificial construct borne out of the desire to CREATE passion for the team.
Exactly, their numb nut fans didn’t take it on board and make it their own and now it's so ****ing contrived, they've massacred it.

Now, for me, “the 19th man” is associated with a bunch of pissed off Adelaide footy fans and another failed attempt by their club.

It failed. Kill it.

....But they won’t, which is fine by me because it’s hilarious.
 
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With respect, unless you have lived in Sin City, it is very hard to make assessments on the cost of living or the general ability to get around the place. The cities of Adelaide and Melbourne were planned and built on a nice square principle. If you roughly know the direction of where you need to head you can basically follow your nose and get there. This does not apply in Sydney.

I played a lot of cricket in my time there and Grade cricket in Sydney is a serious business. Our One Day Games started at 10.30 and finished at 6.00, normal protocol is that you arrive 1hr before the game for warm up.

We were drawn to play Hawkesbury at Richmond. I lived in Randwick not far from the SCG and played for Randwick. In order to get to Bensons Lane on time I left home at 7.30am and after a beer at the end of the game - got home at 9pm!

I loved Sydney, great place to live for a short time, couldn't live there forever. I think Australian Crawl summed it up best in the song "Beautiful People" - COLA is certainly required for both Sydney teams. Unlike us, supporters are not rusted on - they jump on when things are good and jump off just as quickly.
Not sure if that was directed at me wr but I lived in Sydney, north, east and west suburbs all up for 15 years between 1992-2010 - the rest in SE Queensland.

When the AFL said they were going to put a side in western sydney I told D_One, and I think I even posted it on the main board, that there is only one nickname for a western sydney team that is relevant to the 1.8 million people who live in the 14 councils and that would be Traffic. The Greater Western Sydney Traffic would have been a catchy name IMHO. Traffic over Sydney, but especially Western Sydney is diabolical. Shit planning caused that and its why people dont travel to watch their NRL teams in large numbers. Ok having 2 city/near city based stadiums in Melbourne helps boost the numbers for the AFL but pre Docklands days Vic/Melbourne people traveled to watch their team - home and away - so much more than Sydney.

Plus the great weather in winter time and the habour means there are so many other things you can in June/July/August than go watch a footy game.

COLA is needed at the bottom end of the scale, but players on $500k+ (even $300k) dont need it. The guys getting the big $$$ set themselves up in the eastern suburbs and hardly have to leave a 10-15 km radius from their - mainly when they have to play out Homebusch, and they get a lifestyle they wouldnt be able to get in Melbourne. How many AFL footballers in Melbourne, Brisbane or Adelaide can have surf in the morning for an hour before they head off to work and drive 10 minutes from Bondi and Bronte and 15 from Marouba. Plus there are other advantages in Sin City close to town that other cities dont offer - or offer as regularly.

I said from day 1 when the AFL said they were going to put a second side in Sydney that setting up the GWS in Blacktown was rubbish. No 18 year old would want to live there if he got decent money. Wrote about that on the main board and got criticized. Great idea whoever came up with it to set the GWS guys up at the decade old suburb of Breakfast Point - in a US College type set up - right on the harbour - right on the edge of what is called inner western Sydney - 15 kms from town, 20kms from the beach, 3 kms to work at Sydney Olympic Park and 25 kms away from Blacktown.
 

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Not sure if that was directed at me wr but I lived in Sydney, north, east and west suburbs all up for 15 years between 1992-2010 - the rest in SE Queensland.

When the AFL said they were going to put a side in western sydney I told D_One, and I think I even posted it on the main board, that there is only one nickname for a western sydney team that is relevant to the 1.8 million people who live in the 14 councils and that would be Traffic. The Greater Western Sydney Traffic would have been a catchy name IMHO. Traffic over Sydney, but especially Western Sydney is diabolical. Shit planning caused that and its why people dont travel to watch their NRL teams in large numbers. Ok having 2 city/near city based stadiums in Melbourne helps boost the numbers for the AFL but pre Docklands days Vic/Melbourne people traveled to watch their team - home and away - so much more than Sydney.

Plus the great weather in winter time and the habour means there are so many other things you can in June/July/August than go watch a footy game.

COLA is needed at the bottom end of the scale, but players on $500k+ (even $300k) dont need it. The guys getting the big $$$ set themselves up in the eastern suburbs and hardly have to leave a 10-15 km radius from their - mainly when they have to play out Homebusch, and they get a lifestyle they wouldnt be able to get in Melbourne. How many AFL footballers in Melbourne, Brisbane or Adelaide can have surf in the morning for an hour before they head off to work and drive 10 minutes from Bondi and Bronte and 15 from Marouba. Plus there are other advantages in Sin City close to town that other cities dont offer - or offer as regularly.

I said from day 1 when the AFL said they were going to put a second side in Sydney that setting up the GWS in Blacktown was rubbish. No 18 year old would want to live there if he got decent money. Wrote about that on the main board and got criticized. Great idea whoever came up with it to set the GWS guys up at the decade old suburb of Breakfast Point - in a US College type set up - right on the harbour - right on the edge of what is called inner western Sydney - 15 kms from town, 20kms from the beach, 3 kms to work at Sydney Olympic Park and 25 kms away from Blacktown.
agree 100%
 

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Nice misleading headlines from News Ltd about how Gorringe was left stunned and lashed out when Port 'backed out' of a deal to bring him to Alberton. Can't recall I've seen any comments from him other than having a crack at people who criticised him for wanting to go to Port.
 

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Nice misleading headlines from News Ltd about how Gorringe was left stunned and lashed out when Port 'backed out' of a deal to bring him to Alberton. Can't recall I've seen any comments from him other than having a crack at people who criticised him for wanting to go to Port.
Where the hell is the lashing or the bashing, he didn't even get one quote in the article..
 

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he lashed out at critics saying his lacked workrate on twitter

very misleading title
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8919605

Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe has hit back at social media critics after his "go-home" AFL trade fell through.

The 22-year-old nominated Port Adelaide as his preferred club.

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"People tweeting, don't you dare question my work rate, personality or anything else," he said on Twitter.

"You don't know me or anything regarding my personal life.

"(A) lot of you have some crazy rumours going around - better check your sources. Go Suns."

Gorringe added that he requested a trade for family reasons only.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8919605
 
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Nice misleading headlines from News Ltd about how Gorringe was left stunned and lashed out when Port 'backed out' of a deal to bring him to Alberton. Can't recall I've seen any comments from him other than having a crack at people who criticised him for wanting to go to Port.
Originally published under the disgracefully misleading headline "Port backs out of Gorringe deal" but now out there a little less misleadingly as "Daniel Gorringe lashes out after Gold Coast and Port Adelaide fail to strike deal" .

 

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Originally published under the disgracefully misleading headline "Port backs out of Gorringe deal" but now out there a little less misleadingly as "Daniel Gorringe lashes out after Gold Coast and Port Adelaide fail to strike deal" .

Requested a trade for family reasons.
Only two clubs in Adelaide.
Didnt want to go to Crowland, even though Crows needed a ruckman and they ended up signing a player with one senior game after 6 years on an AFL list.
Who does that reflect worst on: Gorringe, the Suns, or the Crows recruiting? Or the media for not joining the dots?
 

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The cows trade with Hawthorn will be written up tomorrow as "receiving two players from the premiers". Not sure what spin the cowvertiser will put on the final trade though. Why would the cows go 4 places down in the first round so they could improve from 47 to 35?
CROWE: David, can you tell the 19th Man why we should be excited about our trade period?
NOBLE: Well Lowden is a quality ruckman for a low cost.
CROWE: We get our backup ruckman, Port miss out. Rear view mirror I tell ya!
BONES: Port did get Ryder, Rowie.
CROWE: Yeah I guess.
BONES: David, why didnt the Crows make a play for Gorringe? He wanted to come home to Adelaide...
*awkward silence*
CROWE: David, Tweeter is going mad with the superb innov... ivvonan.... super trade of draft picks with Hawks. Tell us about that.
NOBLE: We did this trade so we could have pick 35 ahead of Port's 37, whilst still keeping our downgraded pick 14 ahead of their 17.
CROWE: How good is that Crows fans? HOW GOOD IS THAT! Rear view mirror I tell ya, looking back at those Port fans. Stick that in ya pipe ya big galoot Kochie.
BONES: David, you did know that Port traded away 17 and 37? So why drop 4 places from 10 to 14 in a draft that is thought to be quite shallow this year?
*awkward silence*
 
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CROWE: David, can you tell the 19th Man why we should be excited about our trade period?
NOBLE: Well Lowden is a quality ruckman for a low cost.
CROWE: We get our backup ruckman, Port miss out. Rear view mirror I tell ya!
BONES: Port did get Ryder, Rowie.
CROWE: Yeah I guess.
BONES: David, why didnt the Crows make a play for Gorringe? He wanted to come home to Adelaide...
*awkward silence*
CROWE: David, Tweeter is going mad with the superb innov... ivvonan.... super trade of draft picks with Hawks. Tell us about that.
NOBLE: We did this trade so we could have pick 35 ahead of Port's 37, whilst still keeping our downgraded pick 14 ahead of their 17.
CROWE: How good is that Crows fans? HOW GOOD IS THAT! Rear view mirror I tell ya, looking back at those Port fans. Stick that in ya pipe ya big galoot Kochie.
BONES: David, you did know that Port traded away 17 and 37? So why drop 4 places from 10 to 14 in a draft that is thought to be quite shallow this year?
*awkward silence*
You forgot to add the following bit to the conversation

STUPID: David, how good is this concept to have regular tea and apricot slice events with the 19th Man
NOBLE: Sensational idea isn't it, Peter Walsh thought it was a great way to connect with the 19th Man
STUPID: The 19th Man will be over the moon with this
NOBLE: Yeah I am sure the 60,000 19th Man (or should that be men) will be happy, especially if they are one of the lucky few that get selected
STUPID: Are we picking them up from their Nursing Home?
NOBLE: The 19th Man wouldn't have it any other way
STUPID: Peter picking them up?
NOBLE: Well it's one of the main criteria in his Performance Management Plan, just goes to show we go that extra mile for the 19th Man
STUPID: Well there you have it 19th Man, what a great initiative by your club
BONE: That fcuk that conversation is over, and now for something completely different
 

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Nice misleading headlines from News Ltd about how Gorringe was left stunned and lashed out when Port 'backed out' of a deal to bring him to Alberton. Can't recall I've seen any comments from him other than having a crack at people who criticised him for wanting to go to Port.
Port would have kept Daniel fully appraised of the state of negotiations with Gold Coast. Even when it became clear a deal wouldn't be done he didn't waiver from his desire to go to Port. He could have easily said 'stuff it' I'm going to the Crows instead but he didn't. I'm fairly confident he'll be at Port in 2016.
 
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Port would have kept Daniel fully appraised of the state of negotiations with Gold Coast. Even when it became clear a deal wouldn't be done he didn't waver from his desire to go to Port. He could have easily said 'stuff it' I'm going to the Crows instead but he didn't. I'm fairly confident he'll be at Port in 2016.
It looks good for Port, we just need Gold Coast to hold up their end and lose him in the NEAFL for another year.
 
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