How does media coverage influence your experience of consuming AFL— is it positive or negative?"
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The Media & the Game
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Highly negative.
With a few exceptions, I basically avoid all AFL media. It’s too negative, too clickbaity, and too many of their so-called experts have no clue. Buckley is good, and both Adam Simpson and John Longmire provide valuable insights, but people who actually know what they’re talking about are few and far between.
Statistics only matter with context, and too many are taken out of context by people who don’t understand them.
The best content comes from independent YouTubers.
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The media have a harmful impact on everyone around them, and that extends far beyond the world of sport. They’re often little more than opportunistic scavengers, chasing headlines at the cost of someone’s mental wellbeing. Sensationalism and clickbait seem to matter more to them than truth or integrity.
I fear that one day the media will be responsible for the suicide of an AFL player, past or present. Why wouldn’t they be? They’ve probably already driven countless others to the edge.
I fear that one day the media will be responsible for the suicide of an AFL player, past or present. Why wouldn’t they be? They’ve probably already driven countless others to the edge.
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Been thinking about this for a while.... are we better or worse off for all the media & their role in our game
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Dirty Bird
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Negative.
I dont even bother with free to air. Too bias to local markets.
And on foxtel, they're obviously cutting costs and it's infuriating.
Lets have the same people on multiple shows, sprouting the same message a different way.
The only show I semi enjoy watching is AFL360 now that that blabbering idiot is no longer on it.
And commentators?
Sack Derwayne and Howard
Train Underwood, and if there's no improvement sack her.
Also, ban commentators bringing up their interpretation of rules. Maybe get a rules expert on like the NFL? Because BT makes a fool of himself not knowing the rules. The umpiring isn't as bad as people seem, but the average fan listens to idiots like BT spreading misinformation, which leads to the perception that it's worse than it is despite it not being so.
I dont even bother with free to air. Too bias to local markets.
And on foxtel, they're obviously cutting costs and it's infuriating.
Lets have the same people on multiple shows, sprouting the same message a different way.
The only show I semi enjoy watching is AFL360 now that that blabbering idiot is no longer on it.
And commentators?
Sack Derwayne and Howard
Train Underwood, and if there's no improvement sack her.
Also, ban commentators bringing up their interpretation of rules. Maybe get a rules expert on like the NFL? Because BT makes a fool of himself not knowing the rules. The umpiring isn't as bad as people seem, but the average fan listens to idiots like BT spreading misinformation, which leads to the perception that it's worse than it is despite it not being so.
Yep. Overwhelmingly negative.
I avoid any and all AFL programming outside of games. Everything. The only thing I've tuned into lately was watching Simpson and Longmire perform actual tactical analysis - firstly it was excellent, secondly, it was like they were from a different planet compared to everything else. But that is 0.1% of the content. Have zero interest seeing anything else. Have gone from being super curious about what this or that player would say (a few years ago now) to not wanting to hear one word from any player or coach ever again.
And the commentary genuinely makes me turn games off. Had the chance to watch probably 2-3 more matches on the weekend and after about 2 minutes in each turned them off and didn't come back. Can't tell you how much more pleasant it was.
Like everything in life, there's positives and negatives.
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As the years go by I consume less and less and less of it. It’s just such garbage and so boring.
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Tune in for the opening bounce, turn off at closing siren.
Avoid all AFL talk shows.
Most of the 'journalists' are excrement.
Avoid all AFL talk shows.
Most of the 'journalists' are excrement.
The Sultan
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the only show that is worth watching is "first crack". which despite all the footy panel shows is one of the few to actually talk about the in-play game itself, rather than the issue of the week
Too many journalists, not enough stories. = A lot of clickbaity noise and general banal crap or muckraking.
Too many commentators = they all want to stand out and be heard, it is too competitive. There are good ones, but then you have idiot BT, Howie's yelling all the time, etc.
And now they do this thing where there is a camera on the commentators: always found this stupid, narcissistic crap. The game is about the blokes in the arena yet the networks continue to want to pump up their own 'talent'.
Far out the final straw for this for me was on my SM feed I saw Gerard Whateley (good sometimes, bad others) calling the Pickett trip non-call. All they did was show him, I still haven't seen the incident.
We don't give a **** about you commentators! Like Richie Benaud said, you're being invited into people's living rooms, try not to annoy them!
Too many commentators = they all want to stand out and be heard, it is too competitive. There are good ones, but then you have idiot BT, Howie's yelling all the time, etc.
And now they do this thing where there is a camera on the commentators: always found this stupid, narcissistic crap. The game is about the blokes in the arena yet the networks continue to want to pump up their own 'talent'.
Far out the final straw for this for me was on my SM feed I saw Gerard Whateley (good sometimes, bad others) calling the Pickett trip non-call. All they did was show him, I still haven't seen the incident.
We don't give a **** about you commentators! Like Richie Benaud said, you're being invited into people's living rooms, try not to annoy them!
Exactly this.
Commentators are like umpires; the less you notice them, the better a job they are doing.
Ultimately it should be a thankless task, but that's what it is. The players are the stars, and only the players. If you don't even notice the umpires - gold star, very well done. If you don't notice the commentators even better.
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N/A. They don’t influence me as I always start watching on delay from the first bounce, have sound turned down or sometimes off with music. Turn off at end of game. Don’t have to listen to BT and his merry band of fwits.
Have only watched 3 AFL related programs this year - front bar, interview show with Hamish and Players on ch 9. Every other show has little analysis, all just click bait and making the panelists the stars. Haven’t bothered with kayo this year and don’t think I will - used to like first crack and on the couch but new additions to the panels this year sounds like they’ve regressed too.
It really is enjoyable that way. More should try it. Like I said in the latest Cornes thread re Sheezel, stop encouraging the b*stards.
Have only watched 3 AFL related programs this year - front bar, interview show with Hamish and Players on ch 9. Every other show has little analysis, all just click bait and making the panelists the stars. Haven’t bothered with kayo this year and don’t think I will - used to like first crack and on the couch but new additions to the panels this year sounds like they’ve regressed too.
It really is enjoyable that way. More should try it. Like I said in the latest Cornes thread re Sheezel, stop encouraging the b*stards.
Overwhelmingly negative - and I’ve been thinking about this for a little while.
The worst part is how contrived and manufactured it is.
They complain about the media coverage of Willie Rioli, then are the first to complain about racism when it occurs.
They complain about players taking mental health leave (Oliver), then complain about a “$1.3m tagger”.
Literally the only good footy media these days is The Front Bar.
Positivity sells - and these idiot “shock jocks” don’t realise it.
The worst part is how contrived and manufactured it is.
They complain about the media coverage of Willie Rioli, then are the first to complain about racism when it occurs.
They complain about players taking mental health leave (Oliver), then complain about a “$1.3m tagger”.
Literally the only good footy media these days is The Front Bar.
Positivity sells - and these idiot “shock jocks” don’t realise it.
The Sultan
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exactly the old cricket crew (richie, bill, chapelles) were like having a polite conversation going on in the corner, you might not be listening to every word but good to listen into.
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Completely agree, although I did like it better when Huddo was the compare. He let Kingy and Joey be centre stage for their cracks, feel like Jay Clark is constantly trying to be a poor football analyst and set up his HS stories the next day. Anything he says about non-victorian clubs is always in the negative context to play to his Victorian audience. Its getting really tiresome, like you I watch first crack for the in-play game only!
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Tbh that sounds like he doesn’t listen to shows in the media, not that he doesn’t watch games
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It feels like a lot of talk for talks sake on commentary and analysis shows.
Reporting feels like it's the pursuit of being first with a story leading to a lot of nothingness being passed off as a scoop.
Reporting feels like it's the pursuit of being first with a story leading to a lot of nothingness being passed off as a scoop.
I grew up watching footy in the 1960s. Football media back then was the odd replay, a panel show usually on Sunday mornings, but ostensibly it was the newspapers which reported on the games. Not a lot of footy during the week, but I loved reading the teams prior to the match and the reports on the game. Journalists would actually write about the game and told you all you really wanted to know.
By the 1990s, the media changed along with the game itself. No longer a basic game, it became more interested in off field politics and club scandals, reporting on the game became more analytical and journalists no longer reported on the actual game, they began offering opinion pieces. Opinions are like backsides, everyone has one, but you don't want to see yours in the paper.
I became far less interested in football media from about that time. The media game reached a saturation point with show after show with people just offering opinions on the game. It became obvious after a while that many people in the media could not disguise their personal biases against certain clubs, teams and/or players. I generally just tune out, but every now and then I will watch a show to hear if there is any REAL news about the game.
Last night I watched a show (Football Classified) which is the perfect example of everything I dislike about the media. Four people sitting there, crapping on and unable to make it clear what they were actually talking about. And they jump from one thing to another so quickly you lose track of the point of the show.
And the way some of them talk, you'd think they'd never made a mistake in their entire lives. So sanctimonious with their assessments. And just when you thought there couldn't possibly be another reason for a new show, up comes "Players". I couldn't understand most of what they were talking about, or the point of the show, so I switched off halfway through. The game has well and truly passed me by.
By the 1990s, the media changed along with the game itself. No longer a basic game, it became more interested in off field politics and club scandals, reporting on the game became more analytical and journalists no longer reported on the actual game, they began offering opinion pieces. Opinions are like backsides, everyone has one, but you don't want to see yours in the paper.
I became far less interested in football media from about that time. The media game reached a saturation point with show after show with people just offering opinions on the game. It became obvious after a while that many people in the media could not disguise their personal biases against certain clubs, teams and/or players. I generally just tune out, but every now and then I will watch a show to hear if there is any REAL news about the game.
Last night I watched a show (Football Classified) which is the perfect example of everything I dislike about the media. Four people sitting there, crapping on and unable to make it clear what they were actually talking about. And they jump from one thing to another so quickly you lose track of the point of the show.
And the way some of them talk, you'd think they'd never made a mistake in their entire lives. So sanctimonious with their assessments. And just when you thought there couldn't possibly be another reason for a new show, up comes "Players". I couldn't understand most of what they were talking about, or the point of the show, so I switched off halfway through. The game has well and truly passed me by.
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Neither negative or positive. I don’t consume huge amounts to be perfectly honest, but I don’t mind listening to a bit of SEN in the morning, don’t mind the odd tune in to midday madness for the lol’s when driving. The Age podcast I give a little attention to from time to time, and occasionally watch Access if Hawthorn will be featured. The Guardians coverage is quite good too, well written and thought out.
Honestly, there’s a lot of mardy folk on here, I’m not sure anything would please them.
Honestly, there’s a lot of mardy folk on here, I’m not sure anything would please them.
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