No Oppo Supporters The Melt Thread

meima · Apr 25, 2016

Rob said:
Of course, but the form of Hill is one of them. In a year in which our skills have turned completely to shit, there's at least a dozen players that have contributed to that. Hill is near the top of that list, especially given he's usually one of our best kicks.

The baffling thing about it all is that the noise made by the club in the pre-season was that skills were a major focus.

Yup skill is the focus, but not decision making under pressure. At training we train not to injure player and go soft with tackle.

Tbonefreo · Apr 25, 2016

kingswood71 said:
His value really is whatever it takes to get us someone like McCarthy....

Surely McCarthy's trade value has dropped a fair bit since he isnt playing this year or isnt training. I heard reports he is lining up to train at south freo, but havent read anything since.
Maybe Jenkins and steak knives like McGovern.

ydraw · Apr 25, 2016

kingswood71 said:
Hardly any I would have thought....Maybe some back in 2013-14, bugger all now
I hate to even say this, but if we are going down the trade route, then Neale is the obvious choice...

He's not the obvious choice because he's still young, and will be around when our rebuild bears fruit.

Ballantyne and others his age will be retired by the time we are premiership contenders again, that is why they are the obvious choice for trades. Looking at guys who have some currency but are over 26 years old, so guys like Ballantyne, Ibbotson, Mayne etc.

kingswood71 · Apr 25, 2016

ydraw said:
He's not the obvious choice because he's still young, and will be around when our rebuild bears fruit.

Ballantyne and others his age will be retired by the time we are premiership contenders again, that is why they are the obvious choice for trades. Looking at guys who have some currency but are over 26 years old, so guys like Ballantyne, Ibbotson, Mayne etc.

Currency is determined by what people will pay for them. Clubs will pay a premium for the likes of Neale, they wont for Mayne or Ballas.

calaisking · Apr 25, 2016

Our skill level is atrocious. Until we fix that, we aren't winning games.

I thought we would never play as bad as we did against the bulldogs round 1. They proved me wrong yesterday.

Docker Alyssa · Apr 25, 2016

Rob said:
The baffling thing about it all is that the noise made by the club in the pre-season was that skills were a major focus.

I'm sure foot skills were a focus. Decision making under pressure being poor, hesitation rife; impacts disposal efficiency - This has been pointed out a bit.

Nuance shouldn't be lost. Ross Lyon says the gameplan they put in place is not being executed. I believe that being the natural cause for all this before I believe this knee-jerk dunce assumption he's sh!t or the gameplan is sh!t or the personnel just isn't there skill-wise this season. (the same personnel that was minor premiers last? almost saw a GF day.. ?)

I'm fine to wait and see, not lop heads off. 2012 weren't no GF ready side either. 2017 could quite conceivably be our 2013. Hopefully better

meima · Apr 25, 2016

Docker Alyssa said:
I'm sure foot skills were a focus. Decision making under pressure being poor, hesitation rife; impacts disposal efficiency - This has been pointed out a bit.

Nuance shouldn't be lost. Ross Lyon says the gameplan they put in place is not being executed. I believe that being the natural cause for all this before I believe this knee-jerk dunce assumption he's sh!t or the gameplan is sh!t or the personnel just isn't there skill-wise this season. (the same personnel that was minor premiers last? almost saw a GF day.. ?)

I'm fine to wait and see, not lop heads off. 2012 weren't no GF ready side either. 2017 could quite conceivably be our 2013. Hopefully better

Come on we get over the line with Sydney without buddy because they can't kick straight hardly impressive win.

holy diver · Apr 25, 2016

Skills pay the bills.

Nodgey · Apr 25, 2016

My melt is directed toward some of the 'fans' I have to sit next to at the game. The "just kick it" brigade.

Negative sarcastic comments before the first bounce. Insults and criticism throughout.

Yes, we're struggling. Yes, feel free to provide some critique. But FFS support your team during the game. It was the Len Hall game too :-(

electricfeel · Apr 25, 2016

What was our win/loss ratio in 2012 at the start? And when we did start to win a while heap of games?

dockerfemme · Apr 25, 2016

electricfeel said:
What was our win/loss ratio in 2012 at the start? And when we did start to win a while heap of games?

We won 3 of our first 5, 5 of our first 7. The eighth game was the infamous derby. Things were nowhere as bad as this.

electricfeel · Apr 25, 2016

dockerfemme said:
We won 3 of our first 5, 5 of our first 7. The eighth game was the infamous derby. Things were nowhere as bad as this.

Jeez the media made it out to be pretty bad then because all I remember was the rubbish we copped from the derby, thought we must've had a poorer start.

meima · Apr 25, 2016

dockerfemme said:
We won 3 of our first 5, 5 of our first 7. The eighth game was the infamous derby. Things were nowhere as bad as this.

Agree also we got a young fyfe,hills,Mayne (23). . deboer at 22 full of energy team at 2012.

Steinfreo · Apr 25, 2016

meima said:
Agree also we got a young fyfe,hills,Mayne (23). . deboer at 22 full of energy team at 2012.

energy and super talent.

free at last · Apr 25, 2016

electricfeel said:
What was our win/loss ratio in 2012 at the start? And when we did start to win a while heap of games?

That won't happen this year EF.
We are a bloody good chance at winning the wooden spoon.

Kram · Apr 25, 2016

Nodgey said:
My melt is directed toward some of the 'fans' I have to sit next to at the game. The "just kick it" brigade.

Negative sarcastic comments before the first bounce. Insults and criticism throughout.

Yes, we're struggling. Yes, feel free to provide some critique. But FFS support your team during the game. It was the Len Hall game too :-(

Sounds like a real banker.

wild side · Apr 25, 2016

meima said:
Agree also we got a young fyfe,hills,Mayne (23). . deboer at 22 full of energy team at 2012.

And Bond

electricfeel · Apr 25, 2016

free at last said:
That won't happen this year EF.
We are a bloody good chance at winning the wooden spoon.

Yeah I know

for some reason I thought we were a lot poorer at the start of 2012.

What a hot mess

dockerfemme · Apr 25, 2016

I have to have a melt at Ballantyne. That tummy punch to Murphy was ridiculous. Murphy is a free kick magnet and Ballas the opposite. He cost us a goal and it seems he will never learn. I also think the club have to lay it on the line to him. Either he cleans up his act or he is done.

Lach72 · Apr 25, 2016

dockerfemme said:
I have to have a melt at Ballantyne. That tummy punch to Murphy was ridiculous. Murphy is a free kick magnet and Ballas the opposite. He cost us a goal and it seems he will never learn. I also think the club have to lay it on the line to him. Either he cleans up his act or he is done.

Lol. There was nothing in and Murphy should've been done for staging.

I hate that squibbing little bitch

free at last · Apr 25, 2016

electricfeel said:
Yeah I know for some reason I thought we were a lot poorer at the start of 2012.

What a hot mess

It's a perfect storm happening for us in 2016,change in rules,oldest list in the AFL,injury list mounting by the day to our best players & the transition to a new game plan.

thewiz0033 · Apr 25, 2016

Lach72 said:
Lol. There was nothing in and Murphy should've been done for staging.

I hate that squibbing little bitch

You are right to an extent.
Everyone knows that the lightest little tap sees Murphy go down like he's been shot, but Ballas decides to be a smart arse and does it anyway.
Cost a goal in a game we lose by less than a goal.

When you are a gun and contributing you flaws are overlooked, right now he contributes little and gives away plenty

Lach72 · Apr 25, 2016

thewiz0033 said:
You are right to an extent.
Everyone knows that the lightest little tap sees Murphy go down like he's been shot, but Ballas decides to be a smart arse and does it anyway.
Cost a goal in a game we lose by less than a goal.

When you are a gun and contributing you flaws are overlooked, right now he contributes little and gives away plenty

Ballantyne had been the least of our problems to be frank and yesterday he was brave to carry on at all after getting hammered twice in the first ten minutes.

He chased even though his legs weren't working....limping as he ran after them from one side to the other...

If half the team had his attitude we may have got over the line

estibador · Apr 25, 2016

Lach72 said:
Lol. There was nothing in and Murphy should've been done for staging.

I hate that squibbing little bitch

And then seconds later a Carlton player retaliates by whacking Ballas three times harder in the chest, but no free for that of course.

Lach72 · Apr 25, 2016

estibador said:
And then seconds later a Carlton player retaliates by whacking Ballas three times harder in the chest, but no free for that of course.

Yes I did see that.

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