No Oppo Supporters The Melt Thread

aussieviking · Mar 27, 2016

Our foot soldiers are not suited to the way seems to be progressing. Time to develop some new ones suited to the new game plan....if there is one.

Tabiner will never be a key forward. Pearce may have to be developed as a forward instead of back.

Tabiner may be good enough to be developed as a backman

It only one game but my observations have been apparent for some time

Testekill · Mar 27, 2016

Carnthedockers said:
Its all about mind set. Very poor. Just shows how important Sandi and Johnno are for leadership. Also, how hard it is when you dont drop down to recuit top end talent. Would love to know how many top 10 picks the dogs had playing today, as opposed to us.

Only four (although Libba & Wallis would have gone pretty high if the 2010 draft was redone without F/S) in Tom Boyd, Stringer, Macrae & Bontempelli. Murphy was taken at pick 13 way back in the day but our team today had a ton of former rookies or mid-late picks.

Righteo · Mar 27, 2016

Testekill said:
Only four (although Libba & Wallis would have gone pretty high if the 2010 draft was redone without F/S) in Tom Boyd, Stringer, Macrae & Bontempelli. Murphy was taken at pick 13 way back in the day but our team today had a ton of former rookies or mid-late picks.

We made a grand final with **** all 1st round picks a few years back, there's more to winning than having high draft picks.

Carnthedockers · Mar 27, 2016

Testekill said:
Only four (although Libba & Wallis would have gone pretty high if the 2010 draft was redone without F/S) in Tom Boyd, Stringer, Macrae & Bontempelli. Murphy was taken at pick 13 way back in the day but our teamp today had a ton of former rookies or mid-late picks.

Yep, well we have stephen hill.... and Pav, 15 years ago.

couldhavebeen · Mar 27, 2016

meima said:
I don't know what so great about C.pearce coulda .
Let those that play badly play today play for peel and see whether their disposal is same bar with WAFL level.

Clancee was not the worst player with a fremantle jumper on today and he made better decisions with the ball today than what he did in the NAB Cup and Peel game .
The 2 new rules along with the reduced rotations have moved the goal posts .On top of that you have a new game plan all in 5 months from the end of last season . Throw in the loss of Johnson and the last minute replacement of Silvagni .

salim malik · Mar 27, 2016

Kangas got smashed by the Crows first up , WC went down to the Bulldogs and the Hawks lost to GWS and the Dons early . Its swings and roundabouts over a long long season. We saved our smashings for the end of season ,best to get the kinks out eary.

Van_Dyke · Mar 27, 2016

Righteo said:
We made a grand final with **** all 1st round picks a few years back, there's more to winning than having high draft picks.

Meanwhile GWS at least two years ago had about 27 1st round picks.

Kram · Mar 27, 2016

No doubt it's very concerning but it's only 1 game.

Although lose again next week..

meima · Mar 27, 2016

salim malik said:
Kangas got smashed by the Crows first up , WC went down to the Bulldogs and the Hawks lost to GWS and the Dons early . Its swings and roundabouts over a long long season. We saved our smashings for the end of season ,best to get the kinks out eary.

Let's melts early and I will get my ice cream later, umm not a bad idea.

Carnthedockers · Mar 27, 2016

Righteo said:
We made a grand final with **** all 1st round picks a few years back, there's more to winning than having high draft picks.

No Doubt,
but it helps. We lack top end talent. End of story. We dont have a Josh Kennedy, Jarrard Roughead. We struck gold with a Nat Fyfe. But that doesnt happen too often. We win a lot of our games through desire and work rate, not superior talent.

wild side · Mar 27, 2016

couldhavebeen said:
Clancee was not the worst player with a fremantle jumper on today and he made better decisions with the ball today than what he did in the NAB Cup and Peel game .
The 2 new rules along with the reduced rotations have moved the goal posts .On top of that you have a new game plan all in 5 months from the end of last season . Throw in the loss of Johnson and the last minute replacement of Silvagni .

salim malik said:
Kangas got smashed by the Crows first up , WC went down to the Bulldogs and the Hawks lost to GWS and the Dons early . Its swings and roundabouts over a long long season. We saved our smashings for the end of season ,best to get the kinks out eary.

You blokes are biased to the Ross Lyon ethos. Today was totally unacceptable.

Carnthedockers · Mar 27, 2016

Kram81 said:
No doubt it's very concerning but it's only 1 game.

Although lose again next week..

... and ross may be forced to play some younger guys.. and find another Alex Pearce!

salim malik · Mar 27, 2016

wild side said:
You blokes are biased to the Ross Lyon ethos. Today was totally unacceptable.

We lost, it happens. Ross has had a heck of a lot more acceptable games than unacceptable so yes I am a Ross fan. If you don't like what Ross is doing see you in about 2021 .

Carnthedockers · Mar 27, 2016

salim malik said:
We lost, it happens. Ross has had a heck of a lot more acceptable games than unacceptable so yes I am a Ross fan. If you don't like what Ross is doing see you in about 2021 .

Im a Ross fan, and a Freo fan. But I think you can still acknowledge errors. I think we needed to attack trade period harder, even if that means trading a mayne or crozier. We seem stale.

DMan 11 · Mar 27, 2016

Personally, a lot of my pent up anger stems from the fact that in games like today we just don't look like scoring a 100 points, let alone anywhere near it.
As others have said, I don't like the rigidity of RTB to a plan that is quite conservative - impossible to claw back a deficit like that doing the same thing.
I'm a fan of Ross's but I think this is a flaw of his. great leaders should have a 'plan B', and good teams should know when to use it.
Second point on Ross's methodology, It didn't take Nostradamus to predict the bullies style, particularly out of the back half. Was it indignant stubbornness thinking a bunch of lumbering big guys would put defensive pressure on. I think he underestimated the pressure the bullies bought to our fwd entries - a lot of dirty ball from us played right into their mobile backs. Just stupid from us and exacerbated the deficiency between inward advantage and outward disadvantage in our fwd half.

Admiral Byng · Mar 27, 2016

Didn't get to watch any of it, too busy doing other stuff.

But I said last week that these early starts in Melbourne are a jinx on us. 10 am start - our guys would still be asleep.

E Shed · Mar 27, 2016

On reflection this is not much different to what was happening toward the end of last year when Fyfe went down. He straight out carries this team.

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Sweetback · Mar 27, 2016

Admiral Byng said:
Didn't get to watch any of it, too busy doing other stuff.

But I said last week that these early starts in Melbourne are a jinx on us. 10 am start - our guys would still be asleep.

They fly out on Friday and it's only three hours. If you can't acclimatise to that, then you shouldn't be playing AFL for a WA side.

wild side · Mar 27, 2016

salim malik said:
We lost, it happens. Ross has had a heck of a lot more acceptable games than unacceptable so yes I am a Ross fan. If you don't like what Ross is doing see you in about 2021 .

It won't take that long if he keeps doing the same thing

free at last · Mar 27, 2016

Let's see how we respond over the coming fortnight!

GC will offer a stern test and WC will be nearly as tough as it gets.

Sweetback · Mar 27, 2016

The dogs got a jump on us and it rattled our cages. Those seven goals to nothing won them the game. By the middle of the fourth quarter they'd only added another three or so goals, much of this was due to their yips in front of goal but we had our yips too. They caught us napping and we lost our heads. We played without any rhythm or purpose; players didn't know what each other were doing and I'm going to presume this is due to tweaking with the game plan. But I would be dropping all of Clancee, Mzungu and Mayne and bringing in SNOS, Langdon and A Pearce (to play forward).

rgauci · Mar 27, 2016

We are going to end the round last.

Righteo · Mar 27, 2016

Sweetback said:
The dogs got a jump on us and it rattled our cages. Those seven goals to nothing won them the game. By the middle of the fourth quarter they'd only added another three or so goals, much of this was due to their yips in front of goal but we had our yips too. They caught us napping and we lost our heads. We played without any rhythm or purpose; players didn't know what each other were doing and I'm going to presume this is due to tweaking with the game plan. But I would be dropping all of Clancee, Mzungu and Mayne and bringing in SNOS, Langdon and A Pearce (to play forward).

Bit too level headed and analytical for the melt thread I reckon

Admiral Byng · Mar 27, 2016

Sweetback said:
They fly out on Friday and it's only three hours. If you can't acclimatise to that, then you shouldn't be playing AFL for a WA side.

You'd think that. But we have a bad record in these games.

Sweetback · Mar 27, 2016

Righteo said:
Bit too level headed and analytical for the melt thread I reckon

I had my meltdown during the game from the third tier.

We're at a crossroads. A couple more games like today this month and even a stubborn old fart like Ross will make changes.

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