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[hbk_aus]

Precisely why I also said if the outcome of that is a holiday then it's fair enough.

Yes but you also basically said that the abuse stems from only one viewpoint being allowed. That is rubbish. Yes people might find it hard to believe such constant disdain for somebody's own team when they are second in the ladder but if the criticism is presented in a rational way then bring on the debate. From him it isn't at the moment and it is upsetting a lot of people who don't come on here to be abused and called idiots and flogs just for supporting their team.

 

[Partridge]

Yes but you also basically said that the abuse stems from only one viewpoint being allowed. That is rubbish. Yes people might find it hard to believe such constant disdain for somebody's own team when they are second in the ladder but if the criticism is presented in a rational way then bring on the debate. From him it isn't at the moment and it is upsetting a lot of people who don't come on here to be abused and called idiots and flogs just for supporting their team.

I actually said "I suspect a good deal of Bob's frustration is about that...". I was responding to Nakia's post about the 'main culprits'. That part I stand by completely. As to what Bob's being saying in the last 24 hours, not my concern, not my problem, and as I said, if it's too far then it warrants a holiday.

 

[David the Cat]

Absolutely reasonable, and if that contradicts the board's rules then you deserve what you get (I.e. If it's a short holiday so be it). But there have been a few interesting posts with similar sentiments expressed about Bobby and Blighty in the last day, and I haven't seen any hint of censure. Surely the same rules apply.

Its the abuse to the Board as a whole I can't tolerate.... good people, supporting the team we are all meant to support.....(I emphasis the word "support") .....being subjected on a regular basis to abusive terms like "flogs", "losers", and "pricks". There's more than one who have left this Board because of it.

I think the Mods have been....more than tolerant with their adjudication of Board rules....perhaps too tolerant.

Bleating about "same rules applying" to serial offenders is naive. Perhaps a quick visit to the Magistrates Court would show you that just doesn't happen....and IMO, neither it should.

 

[Catastic82]

to what Bob's being saying in the last 24 hours, not my concern, not my problem, and as I said, if it's too far then it warrants a holiday.

Been going on for far longer than the last 24 hours

 

[Partridge]

I'm sure you will be able to quote posters who call the rest of us "flogs" "pricks" "losers" "idiots" and "stupid" on a regular basis...I look forward to it.

You'll have to enlighten me, is it justified as a one off or not permitted regardless?

I've already said it - and it seems I need to again - if that's the problem enforce a holiday for the transgressor.

 

[vinum coupe]

You'll have to enlighten me, is it justified as a one off or not permitted regardless?

I've already said it - and it seems I need to again - if that's the problem enforce a holiday for the transgressor.

Mate.....once upon a time I was banned for this.

I quoted a post. And in my best Sam Newman voice (in my head) I started the post with "you idiot"

As in, using a joking voice of "don't be so silly"

But when guys go on a rampage of calling anyone and everyone a flog it just needs to be cut.
They just don't deserve to be here.

 

[David the Cat]

You'll have to enlighten me, is it justified as a one off or not permitted regardless?

I've already said it - and it seems I need to again - if that's the problem enforce a holiday for the transgressor.

No argument there....

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

It's not about knowing better though. It's about only one view on here being tolerated. It's been like that for some time. I suspect a good deal of Bob's frustration is about that as much as the team.

That's not just on this board or on this site, that extends as far as state wide, nation wide and world wide, and in all aspects of life.

This board is merely an extension from that.

We're becoming accustomed to being muted to an extent where there's only one response that's accepted and that response must conform to popular opinion or belief.

It's a sad state of affairs.

 

[vinum coupe]

That's not just on this board or on this site, that extends as far as state wide, nation wide and world wide, and in all aspects of life.

This board is merely an extension from that.

We're becoming accustomed to being muted to an extent where there's only one response that's accepted and that response must conform to popular opinion or belief.

It's a sad state of affairs.

It's regulation.

It's happened for 40,000 years.

You must be an Isis fan.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

All this talk about posters etc... mods, Dons preview thread??

 

[Mattlock]

Can we all chill out with the name calling and shit? How hard is it to just not answer a person unless you can do it without resorting to insults and baiting? Disagreeing and being an instigator are two very different things.

I actually like to hear the difference of opinion and perspective on the club, coaches, players, water boys etc, but there has to be a bit of rationality and some smiles.

Go listen to The Fugees.

 

[Seeds]

He has a right to express his views but others have a right to criticise those views.

Ofcourse they do. I've been one of those criticising his views. But it's the posts telling him to take a holiday or calling him a hawk troll or saying the board would be better without him here. those posts aren't good. He was one of the most optimistic posters on here once, like ridiculously optimistic, so he aint just negative for the sake of it. There's obviously reasons for his views. Just debate him, and any of us, on our views. If someone sends reportable messages then you can report them for what they said. But don't discredit the poster on the boards themselves.

 

[geelong_boy]

That's not just on this board or on this site, that extends as far as state wide, nation wide and world wide, and in all aspects of life.

This board is merely an extension from that.

We're becoming accustomed to being muted to an extent where there's only one response that's accepted and that response must conform to popular opinion or belief.

It's a sad state of affairs.

I don't really get that view either here on this forum or in the 'real world'. As I wrote in an earlier post while referring to Bobby: he has a right to express his views but then other people have a right to criticise the views he puts forward. I don't see how it's unreasonable for the same thing to happen outside this forum, for example, whether we are talking about Hanson or whatever.

 

[Partridge]

I don't really get that view either here on this forum or in the 'real world'. As I wrote in an earlier post while referring to Bobby: he has a right to express his views but then other people have a right to criticise the views he puts forward. I don't see how it's unreasonable for the same thing to happen outside this forum, for example, whether we are talking about Hanson or whatever.

Absolutely. Completely agree.

 

[Bobby_]

lol so much vitriol in here. Sure hope it wasn't started by me?

As for those posters who are labeling me David the Cat, vinum coupe, Willo_ , Catastic82, you blokes are the sole reason why some of us have decided to give up posting in a respectful manor.
The stuff you are single-handedly blaming me for in here, is the kind of stuff you yourselves did myself and others in the past. The only reason why you never got pulled up on it is because your views about the club where in the same line of thinking as what majority of the board was thinking. Positive and insightful.

Now have I taken a turn from that line of thinking over the last 2 years, yes I have and it's been rather scathing some of the views I have expressed.
This has since made others posters unhappy and any opportunity they could get, they would quote me and bring it up. This has then led to disagreements which have then become more about the poster/s in question than the actual topic or views of discussion.

Take this review thread for example.
Here is everything I have posted:

Betting line was 23.5 points.

Dogs lost two of their better midfielders during the game and yet, that betting line was almost spot on.
It's freakish how accurate they can get it on nearly all occasions.

As for the game, lol get physical with us and you see which players go missing. Will be the same old story in finals

and another on ignore

meh' stick to playing the ball as catempire always likes to preach on this board

Give me Christensen for week 1 of finals everyday of the week over Stanley thanks.

Forget tonight's out the box performance, Stanley's been ordinary this year and anyone who says differently is just a typically one-eyed Geelong supporter.
Christensen will be there when the heat is applied in a final. Stanley will not and not only that, Blicavs' career is now sliding away because of Stanley in the team so we have a situation at seasons end where Richmond have offered Stanley 550k and he walks while Blicavs is back to square one all over again.

4 posts, I sense an alias Catastic82

thought she was about to have a heart attack the old dear

she'd pack a bigger punch than a few of our players (Guthrie, Blicavs, Motlop, Hawkins, Mackie, Duncan to name a few)

A lot of jargon in that post David.
You have brought up blokes who are playing at other clubs (and in the AFL mind you) while I have given an opinion that I'd happily take Christensen in a final over Stanley.
Yep, that's the spirit old timer

Fair enough.
Going a bit heavy lately am I?

Could, should roll it back a tad but I just want this coach gone once and for all.
He's not upto it anymore.
Tonight was proof of that. A team completely ravaged by injury, were leading us by a goal, and with all the momentum till Liberatore went down and we get a couple of lucky goals on the counter to break it open. This is why we will shit the bed in finals.

The bloke just turned 22 years of age.
He booted 56 goals last year and is currently sitting on 34 this year. He's currently in a form slump.

To suggest he is horribly overrated typifies this board and the supporters. Absolute joke you lot are.

You would trade any of our forwards (including Hawkins) for Stringer in a heart beat.

You are and I pulled you up on it because it was a stupid thing to say.
Stringer is very overrated is he?

Do you say that because he was a no show last night or has he proven over a long period of time that he doesn't deliver?

So you would not want Jake Stringer at full forward over Hawkins?
Wow!

Now that has been my contributions, granted it's not inspiring but honestly, nothing worthy of so much hostility toward me.
David the cat for example, he decides to stray off topic completely and brings up other things like Hamling and Jansen (players I felt we should have kept at the club) in order to cheekily get under my skin and cause me to respond.

 

[geelong_boy]

The hostility of late stems from your seemingly wanting the team to lose and how it seems to make you happy when that occurs. That notorious post last week after the Adelaide game and then another in the lead up to the Dogs game will stay in people's minds.

We are here because of hope. That things will improve, that we may get back to the premiership promised land. For that we have September in the offing but you've already written that off before a final has been played - based on what? 2012-2015. So you're basically advocating giving up which I'd argue is a very pre-2007 Geelong trait.

Well we won't be giving up. Another poster made the good point that some here want perfection. We aren't perfect, but we're a chance and while so we have to keep struggling and striving to improve. You never know what can happen.

 

[Bobby_]

The hostility of late stems from your seemingly wanting the team to lose and how it seems to make you happy when that occurs. That notorious post last week after the Adelaide game and then another in the lead up to the Dogs game will stay in people's minds.

Only way this coaching get moved on is if we lose. Sorry but that's the truth.
The sooner this coaching staff are moved on, that is the year we will win the premiership.

 

[catempire]

As a mod group we will need to consider the reasonable issues contained above and respond. Please give us the time to do this and don't add to the discussion in other threads in the meantime.

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