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Malthouse didn’t leave a huge mess in terms of the talent of the list.

Rubbish here's a list of 5

Jolly shot and on last legs
Ball shot and on last legs
Obrien mentally shot as mick wouldn't pull him in
ShAw see obrien
Didak shot
I can keep going tarrant , Thomas
The only mess was the circumstances of his departure

Glad you agree it takes a special type of individual to shit on the hand that feeds

given Eddie fired him to give Bucks a head coaching job.

Seeing mick set up the succession plan
Read a book on it ( Peter Ryan)
You can’t blame Malthouse if Buckley can’t get the best of the players on the list.
You obviously cant
 

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You said the opposition let him run amok. That's a crock.

Just how many developing in and under mids actually draw a hard tag? It's generally only the very elite. Adams isn't at that level yet but if he continues to develop and becomes Mitchell or Pridis good then he'll certainly get an opponent. Hopefully he continues to develop to be as good as them. He's tracking the right way.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=19&type=A&pid1=3651&pid2=266&fid1=O&fid2=O

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...2=19&type=A&pid1=3651&pid2=1696&fid1=O&fid2=O
Can you honestly say that Adams has improved his skills and decision making in the last 4 years? by the way go ask West Coast Supporters about Priddis..
 

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They had reiwoldt and rance.. huge presence!!!

Reid and Dunn? C'mon man
Moore will be great at CHB , more highly rated as a junior and at same stage a better player than rance
Think the back halfs now where it all starts

Imo Cox / Grundy will be as prolific as jack and its not there job to chase tail

Think Reid may or may not depends on body
Must say looked alright in intraclub ( when he tried)

Ps too my knowledge don't think too many players in any level of footy have kicked 6 , 24 marks and 40 hitouts
Rekin jack s never taken 24 marks
 

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Moore will be great at CHB , more highly rated as a junior and at same stage a better player than rance
Think the back halfs now where it all starts

Imo Cox / Grundy will be as prolific as jack and its not there job to chase tail

Think Reid may or may not depends on body
Must say looked alright in intraclub ( when he tried)

Ps too my knowledge don't think too many players in any level of footy have kicked 6 , 24 marks and 40 hitouts
Rekin jack s never taken 24 marks
I actually said last yr that I'd like to see him down back.. but he has yet to play a game down there bar a quarter. I think he will do well but we only have under 18 comp to go by at this stage really.

And Dunn.. seriously re.. if I wanted something like him I'd have gotten one of those baseball pitching machines.

Can anyone put their hand up and say.. 2 or 3 yrs ago when we needed a full back.. that they mentioned Dunn? Now you can't say a bad word about him or youll get maulled in here.. he was a freebie in trade.. I think he's done ok.. but seriously.. c'mon re
 

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Can you honestly say that Adams has improved his skills and decision making in the last 4 years? by the way go ask West Coast Supporters about Priddis..
Yep. Go back and read my posts circa his arrival. He's improved year on year since then. Still only 24 so still scope for further improvement.

As for Priddis, was it his Brownlow that they wax lyrical over? Say what you like about him, there was a period around 2014-15 that he was bloody good at what he did.
 

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I actually said last yr that I'd like to see him down back.. but he has yet to play a game down there bar a quarter. I think he will do well but we only have under 18 comp to go by at this stage really.

And Dunn.. seriously re.. if I wanted something like him I'd have gotten one of those baseball pitching machines.

Good call, I rate your opinion a d always enjoy your posts and banter

Can anyone put their hand up and say.. 2 or 3 yrs ago when we needed a full back.. that they mentioned Dunn? Now you can't say a bad word about him or youll get maulled in here.. he was a freebie in trade.. I think he's done ok.. but seriously.. c'mon re
Good call

Gimp he replaced brown so I think it's an upside
And really not much else going around

You me and most had identified that our disposal and run was deplorable from the back half which is critical in today's game

Ben hart coaching wow , that didn't help

Rekin he's an improvement on that but happy with the developement of Sam

Just need the yank to transfer vfl form against port melb to afl , surely he's a big chance
Remember he was wanted by 3 clubs off season

Get on at $26 good value
Imagine what happens if he clunks 5 or 6 forward
 

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Good call

Gimp he replaced brown so I think it's an upside
And really not much else going around

You me and most had identified that our disposal and run was deplorable from the back half which is critical in today's game

Ben hart coaching wow , that didn't help

Rekin he's an improvement on that but happy with the developement of Sam

Just need the yank to transfer vfl form against port melb to afl , surely he's a big chance
Remember he was wanted by 3 clubs off season

Get on at $26 good value
Imagine what happens if he clunks 5 or 6 forward
Re I'm pretty intutitive.. Mai ena afgo piga sto scholio.. so I've come a long way. Know what it takes to be successful.
 

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Rubbish here's a list of 5

Jolly shot and on last legs
Ball shot and on last legs
Obrien mentally shot as mick wouldn't pull him in
ShAw see obrien
Didak shot
I can keep going tarrant , Thomas


Glad you agree it takes a special type of individual to shit on the hand that feeds


Seeing mick set up the succession plan
Read a book on it ( Peter Ryan)


You obviously cant
Haha. Thanks for the laugh today. It took me a while to work out what you were trying to say because you obviously can't respond to other peoples quotes well on this forum. Next time dont try to mesh my quotes with yours again.

Everyone knew Jolly and Ball were close to retirement. The fact Malthouse got the best out of these ageing warriors compared to their previous club showed what a good job he did coaching these two. They both played a huge role in delivering Collingwood to a flag. Plus these two were adequately replaced by youth.

Regarding O'Brien and Shaw. Why would Malthouse have to "pull them in" when they were playing so well with their run and dash off the half back line. Heath Shaw became an All Australian with GWS so clearly the issue with him was a Buckley coaching problem. Yes Shaw can be difficult to deal with regarding his ADHD diagnosis but both Malthouse and GWS could tolerate him for the benefit of their teams. Why couldn't Buckley?

So you have listed 7 players that left the club that played under Malthouse. That still leaves 16 premiership players that Buckley inherited, many in the prime of their careers like the spine of the 2010 team Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes. These guys were in their early 20s and should of kept Collingwood challenging for the flag for the next 3 to 5 years. But as history would tell us, we have gone backwards each year from 2011 and one constant person in charge of those players was Nathan Buckley. I'm not going to go through each player and list reasons why Buckley failed them. But it is an excercise that can easily be done.

I think the person i feel sorry for the most is Pendlebury. He is now just turned 30 and we pissed away the best years of his career by choosing an unqualified coach in Nathan Buckley that results has shown he is out of his depth. From being a premiership winner/grand finalist to 12th on the ladder. I dont think Pendles is going to look back on his last 6 years fondly. He deserved much better.
 

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Haha. Thanks for the laugh today. It took me a while to work out what you were trying to say because you obviously can't respond to other peoples quotes well on this forum. Next time dont try to mesh my quotes with yours again.

Everyone knew Jolly and Ball were close to retirement. The fact Malthouse got the best out of these ageing warriors compared to their previous club showed what a good job he did coaching these two. They both played a huge role in delivering Collingwood to a flag. Plus these two were adequately replaced by youth.

Regarding O'Brien and Shaw. Why would Malthouse have to "pull them in" when they were playing so well with their run and dash off the half back line. Heath Shaw became an All Australian with GWS so clearly the issue with him was a Buckley coaching problem. Yes Shaw can be difficult to deal with regarding his ADHD diagnosis but both Malthouse and GWS could tolerate him for the benefit of their teams. Why couldn't Buckley?

So you have listed 7 players that left the club that played under Malthouse. That still leaves 16 premiership players that Buckley inherited, many in the prime of their careers like the spine of the 2010 team Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes. These guys were in their early 20s and should of kept Collingwood challenging for the flag for the next 3 to 5 years. But as history would tell us, we have gone backwards each year from 2011 and one constant person in charge of those players was Nathan Buckley. I'm not going to go through each player and list reasons why Buckley failed them. But it is an excercise that can easily be done.

I think the person i feel sorry for the most is Pendlebury. He is now just turned 30 and we pissed away the best years of his career by choosing an unqualified coach in Nathan Buckley that results has shown he is out of his depth. From being a premiership winner/grand finalist to 12th on the ladder. I dont think Pendles is going to look back on his last 6 years fondly. He deserved much better.
Brilliant!

How is it that Didak and Johnson's injuries were not manageable? Yet we sign Wells at 30+? Is that just a coincidence?

And Shaw's form dropped under Buckley.. his runs dimonished.. just didn't look the same.. I don't put it down to skata form re.. he's behaviour was a cry for help. We trade him.. gets his All Australian.
 

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Everyone knew Jolly and Ball were close to retirement. The fact Malthouse got the best out of these ageing warriors compared to their previous club showed what a good job he did coaching these two. They both played a huge role in delivering Collingwood to a flag. Plus these two were adequately replaced by youth.
Assume you're giving the comedy festival routine from Adelaide last weekend one last run before mothballing it....

Without even doing too much research, the names McKee, Ukovic, Kinnear, Steinfort, Molloy, Williams, Woewodin, Morrison, Wood, Corrie mean anything to you?

So you have listed 7 players that left the club that played under Malthouse. That still leaves 16 premiership players that Buckley inherited, many in the prime of their careers like the spine of the 2010 team Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes. These guys were in their early 20s and should of kept Collingwood challenging for the flag for the next 3 to 5 years. But as history would tell us, we have gone backwards each year from 2011 and one constant person in charge of those players was Nathan Buckley. I'm not going to go through each player and list reasons why Buckley failed them. But it is an excercise that can easily be done.
Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes

Yeah, how dare Brown do his ACL, Reid his calf, Dawes his brain, Cloke his body. All on Bucks these guys.

Let's just ignore that while he missed the GF, Presti was the FB who got us there. Lets just ignore it was Leigh Brown who retired at the end of 2011 that allowed Dawes to play as a 3rd tall excluded from ruck duties. Let's not even consider the departure of so many key players post the 2010 GF. Lets ignore the demise/retirement/injuries of/to players like Thomas and Didak and BJ and Leon and Macaffer and O'Bree and Medhurst and Lockyer and Maxwell.

But that spine eh, girders the loins just thinking about it.

Gee, these are tired and well discredited arguments. You seriously need some new material.
 

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Brilliant!

How is it that Didak and Johnson's injuries were not manageable? Yet we sign Wells at 30+? Is that just a coincidence?

And Shaw's form dropped under Buckley.. his runs dimonished.. just didn't look the same.. I don't put it down to skata form re.. he's behaviour was a cry for help. We trade him.. gets his All Australian.
Have you already written off this season?
read what i said
 

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Haha. Thanks for the laugh today. It took me a while to work out what you were trying to say because you obviously can't respond to other peoples quotes well on this forum. Next time dont try to mesh my quotes with yours again.

Everyone knew Jolly and Ball were close to retirement. The fact Malthouse got the best out of these ageing warriors compared to their previous club showed what a good job he did coaching these two. They both played a huge role in delivering Collingwood to a flag. Plus these two were adequately replaced by youth.

Regarding O'Brien and Shaw. Why would Malthouse have to "pull them in" when they were playing so well with their run and dash off the half back line. Heath Shaw became an All Australian with GWS so clearly the issue with him was a Buckley coaching problem. Yes Shaw can be difficult to deal with regarding his ADHD diagnosis but both Malthouse and GWS could tolerate him for the benefit of their teams. Why couldn't Buckley?

So you have listed 7 players that left the club that played under Malthouse. That still leaves 16 premiership players that Buckley inherited, many in the prime of their careers like the spine of the 2010 team Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes. These guys were in their early 20s and should of kept Collingwood challenging for the flag for the next 3 to 5 years. But as history would tell us, we have gone backwards each year from 2011 and one constant person in charge of those players was Nathan Buckley. I'm not going to go through each player and list reasons why Buckley failed them. But it is an excercise that can easily be done.

I think the person i feel sorry for the most is Pendlebury. He is now just turned 30 and we pissed away the best years of his career by choosing an unqualified coach in Nathan Buckley that results has shown he is out of his depth. From being a premiership winner/grand finalist to 12th on the ladder. I dont think Pendles is going to look back on his last 6 years fondly. He deserved much better.

Got different reasons to these?

Dawes broken knuckle couldn't mark on the lead done and dusted

Leigh brown done and dusted

Thomas ankle rooted jabbed to death gone

Reid playing on blokes when he's bodies stuffed , 2011 remember that gift to geelong

Brown was it 1 or 2 knees

Cloke buckleys fault or his father

Swan Carear ending injury

Fraser ridden into the ground

Beams father

Leon swengalied

Maxy retired body gone

Who we missing that's 17
Blair, pendels, Sidey sack
 

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He's a failure pure and simple

We don't have a FB
We don't have a CHB
We don't have a CHF
We don't have a FF

Mclarty and Moore down back for a combined total of 0 games. We have Dunn.. a has been who no one really rated until he came over.. and Reid and Cox up forward.. seriously?!?!
I rated Dunn and thought he'd be an uprgrade on Brown especially with his kicking since we like to switch to the fullback often.
 

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Brilliant!

How is it that Didak and Johnson's injuries were not manageable? Yet we sign Wells at 30+? Is that just a coincidence?

And Shaw's form dropped under Buckley.. his runs dimonished.. just didn't look the same.. I don't put it down to skata form re.. he's behaviour was a cry for help. We trade him.. gets his All Australian.
Yeah agree we all wanted those 2 to continue , but they didn't go anywhere else maybe they were gone

Wells had just had his best season in what 4 years 18 /19 games mainly high quality , took a stab and so far juries out still

Did look good last year though when on the park
Clark Keating lol

Maybe heath
He has said he was immature
Has said being close to his brother helped him along with the kick in the arse
 
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Got different reasons to these?

Dawes broken knuckle couldn't mark on the lead done and dusted

Leigh brown done and dusted

Thomas ankle rooted jabbed to death gone

Reid playing on blokes when he's bodies stuffed , 2011 remember that gift to geelong

Brown was it 1 or 2 knees

Cloke buckleys fault or his father

Swan Carear ending injury

Fraser ridden into the ground

Beams father

Leon swengalied

Maxy retired body gone

Who we missing that's 17
Blair, pendels, Sidey sack
Yes these are all correct. But they didn’t happen all at the same time.
 

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Fb Dunn. Bottom 4
Chb Moore. Never played there. Bottom4
CHF Reid. Always injured bottom 4
FF Cox. The league is laughing. Last.
FB Dunn. 2nd best one on one defender in the league 2017

CHB Moore. Played majority of TAC and VFL at CHB and was one of the best in r23 as a CHB.

CHF Reid. Played 15 games last year and every game in the last 7 weeks. Dropped for poor performance as a CHB.

FF Cox. Avg 1.4 goals a game in just 20 games of AFL which include pinch hitting in the ruck. Franklin avg 1.1 goals a game in 20 games as a KPF. Head hunted by Brisbane in the off season.
 

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Assume you're giving the comedy festival routine from Adelaide last weekend one last run before mothballing it....

Without even doing too much research, the names McKee, Ukovic, Kinnear, Steinfort, Molloy, Williams, Woewodin, Morrison, Wood, Corrie mean anything to you?
What’s your point in listing these past players? That Collingwood has recruited players from other clubs that they didn’t get much value from. You could do this exercise for every AFL club.

Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes

Yeah, how dare Brown do his ACL, Reid his calf, Dawes his brain, Cloke his body. All on Bucks these guys.

Let's just ignore that while he missed the GF, Presti was the FB who got us there. Lets just ignore it was Leigh Brown who retired at the end of 2011 that allowed Dawes to play as a 3rd tall excluded from ruck duties. Let's not even consider the departure of so many key players post the 2010 GF. Lets ignore the demise/retirement/injuries of/to players like Thomas and Didak and BJ and Leon and Macaffer and O'Bree and Medhurst and Lockyer and Maxwell.

But that spine eh, girders the loins just thinking about it.

Gee, these are tired and well discredited arguments. You seriously need some new material.
I’m not ignoring anything. Retirement/injuries/decline in player’s form is part and parcel of coaching.

The quality head coaches in the AFL can deal with these adversities and re-invent the team to progress the club forward. The can be done without having to plummet down the ladder each season. Just look at Geelong. They were in the exact situation as us in 2011 but have still remain competitive for the past 6 years.
 
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Brown, Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke, Dawes

Yeah, how dare Brown do his ACL, Reid his calf, Dawes his brain, Cloke his body. All on Bucks these guys.


Some of you clowns would find excuses for Hitler.
An ACL isn't a death wish.
Reid has had a lot more than a calf - his injury management has been appalling.
Dawes was a fine player who clearly wasn't suited to playing the position muppet Buckley demanded of him.
Funny how Cloke just fell off a cliff all of a sudden - seems to be constant with Collingwood players. I wonder why.

Lets just ignore it was Leigh Brown who retired at the end of 2011 that allowed Dawes to play as a 3rd tall excluded from ruck duties. Let's not even consider the departure of so many key players post the 2010 GF. Lets ignore the demise/retirement/injuries of/to players like Thomas and Didak and BJ and Leon and Macaffer and O'Bree and Medhurst and Lockyer and Maxwell.
The retirement of Jolly/Ball/Didak/Brown etc was hardly an unforeseen circumstance. That comes down to poor management within the football department. Care to have a guess as to who was the Head of Football back then? Why, that's right, the same fool who is there now.

Dawes broken knuckle couldn't mark on the lead done and dusted
Only at the Collingwood football club could a broken knuckle be career ending.

Leigh brown done and dusted
Who planned for that?

Thomas ankle rooted jabbed to death gone
Is that medical opinion, or just speculation?

Reid playing on blokes when he's bodies stuffed , 2011 remember that gift to geelong
Then why is he still playing, and a vital part of the forward line?

I was going to respond to the rest of your inane post, but screw it - I'd much rather conduct discourse with a mature adult who understands English.
 

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FB Dunn. 2nd best one on one defender in the league 2017

CHB Moore. Played majority of TAC and VFL at CHB and was one of the best in r23 as a CHB.

CHF Reid. Played 15 games last year and every game in the last 7 weeks. Dropped for poor performance as a CHB.

FF Cox. Avg 1.4 goals a game in just 20 games of AFL which include pinch hitting in the ruck. Franklin avg 1.1 goals a game in 20 games as a KPF. Head hunted by Brisbane in the off season.
Cox v Franklin progression. C'mon man. Seriously. Everyone has their own curve.
 

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Some of you clowns would find excuses for Hitler.
An ACL isn't a death wish.
Reid has had a lot more than a calf - his injury management has been appalling.
Dawes was a fine player who clearly wasn't suited to playing the position muppet Buckley demanded of him.
Funny how Cloke just fell off a cliff all of a sudden - seems to be constant with Collingwood players. I wonder why.


The retirement of Jolly/Ball/Didak/Brown etc was hardly an unforeseen circumstance. That comes down to poor management within the football department. Care to have a guess as to who was the Head of Football back then? Why, that's right, the same fool who is there now.



Only at the Collingwood football club could a broken knuckle be career ending.



Who planned for that?



Is that medical opinion, or just speculation?



Then why is he still playing, and a vital part of the forward line?

I was going to respond to the rest of your inane post, but screw it - I'd much rather conduct discourse with a mature adult who understands English.

Broken knuckle pal ever had one nor have you tried to rebuild a list when 2 expansion teams are getting the world

If you spoke to trav he'd tell you his bodies like a 40 year olds due to the constant batteries g he took playing micks method , hence his lack of mobility 2014 onwards , asked and advised to taper down , daddy knew best

With dawes ,Hard to mark bullett passes at the best of times

Little bit harder with a f...ing broken hand with no confidence

Played the 2nd ruck spot at melbourne didn't he?

Ask daisy or anyone he played under duress all back end of 2011 and has admitted it instead of resting

Reid , He's not vital , in fact I've said the ? Still remains but was once a AA and I doubt he's around next year

We went all in got a lucky flag with experienced top ups , yippee set us back though with no picks

Brown you Done a ACL , 2 in quick succession ain't great

Ask shaz about that

Maybe you should be a little bit more positive
 

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Broken knuckle pal ever had one nor have you tried to rebuild a list when 2 expansion teams are getting the world

If you spoke to trav he'd tell you his bodies like a 40 year olds due to the constant batteries g he took playing micks method , hence his lack of mobility 2014 onwards , asked and advised to taper down , daddy knew best

With dawes ,Hard to mark bullett passes at the best of times

Little bit harder with a f...ing broken hand with no confidence

Played the 2nd ruck spot at melbourne didn't he?

Ask daisy or anyone he played under duress all back end of 2011 and has admitted it instead of resting

Reid , He's not vital , in fact I've said the ? Still remains but was once a AA and I doubt he's around next year

We went all in got a lucky flag with experienced top ups , yippee set us back though with no picks

Brown you Done a ACL , 2 in quick succession ain't great

Ask shaz about that

Maybe you should be a little bit more positive
Cloke copped more beating under Buckley than Mick.
 
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