Mega Thread The Next AFC Coach?

Who do you think will be the next coach

  • Stuart Dew

    Votes: 73 17.0%
  • Leigh Tudor

    Votes: 17 4.0%
  • Scott Burns

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Peter Sumich

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Nathan Bassett

    Votes: 145 33.7%
  • John Blakey

    Votes: 7 1.6%
  • Brendon Bolton

    Votes: 47 10.9%
  • Alastair Clarkson

    Votes: 85 19.8%
  • Brett Kirk

    Votes: 7 1.6%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 30 7.0%

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I've heard Walsh speak a few times, reading in between the lines his mantra seems to be hard work and skill level which I do like
I dont know much about him but he seems like a coach the players will respond to immediately. but it needs to filter though the panel so i agree with the whole panel needs a wash. I dont mind clark as ruck coach though seems to be doing well with sause
 

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I dont know muck about him but he seems like a coach the players will respond to immediately. but it needs to filter though the panel so i agree with the whole panel needs a wash. I dont mind clark as ruck coach though seems to be doing well with sause
Like Craigy Walsh also has a sports science back ground so I expect us to be fit

Walsh was also Choco's right hand man and left Port for WCE when Choco got sacked, wonder if the club would allow Choco to be Walsh's right hand man
 

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Like Craigy Walsh also has a sports science back ground so I expect us to be fit

Walsh was also Choco's right hand man and left Port for WCE when Choco got sacked, wonder if the club would allow Choco to be Walsh's right hand man
cheers, the feedback from the PG if he gets appointed will be interesting. think that is the most important point "confidence from the PG"
 

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I dont know much about him but he seems like a coach the players will respond to immediately. but it needs to filter though the panel so i agree with the whole panel needs a wash. I dont mind clark as ruck coach though seems to be doing well with sause
Happy to keep Clarke however Bicks must go he has been the Snr Asst over the past 5 years and we have played finals once.... Campo must go as well IMO, when at Essendon their midfield got smashed from a lack of defensive structures and two way running and we have seen this with our midfield this year
 

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Happy to keep Clarke however Bicks must go he has been the Snr Asst over the past 5 years and we have played finals once.... Campo must go as well IMO, when at Essendon their midfield got smashed from a lack of defensive structures and two way running and we have seen this with our midfield this year
100% agree..

Bicks may be good as reserves coach but not on the panel
 

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Our next head coach is intuitively obvious if one does just a little bit of detective work. We've got Clarkson! Let me try and connect the dots here, and please feel free to expose the flaws in my reasoning. What we do know is that:

1) Fagan, the new CEO, has publicly said that we want the best available, i.e. the target is an experienced premiership coach. Fagan had a history of delivering on these bold promises in the NRL with the Brumby’s – he got the best coach in the world (a guy from South Africa). Make no mistake here, Fagan is ruthless and he means business. Honestly, do you really think his first move as the new CEO of the AFC would be to preside over the sacking of Sando (widely loved by the supporters) only to bring in another untried rookie coach? It’s a ridiculous way to begin one's tenure at the AFC, as well as totally out of character.

2) There's a lot of secrecy around this appointment. If nothing else, what we do know is that the AFC selection panel and board clearly have something major to hide.

3) The need for secrecy around the appointment of Clarkson has gone into major overdrive ever since Jars spilled the beans a few days before the GF. From this point forward, there have been absolutely no leaks from inside the AFC and plenty of red herrings (e.g. Bassett/Bolton). The AFC is like Fort Knox atm, something big is clearly about to happen. Jar’s untimely disclosure was a major, almost unforgivable cock-up, and is one major reason why the announcement simply had to be delayed until next week. (The other reason being that the Hawks, against most people's expectations, won the GF and so we need to wait for the dust to settle after the celebrations, travel to Tassie, and the Hawks B&F, before making the announcement).

4) Now this is slightly conjectural, but if we read between the lines (see below), we can also see that some in the local footy media (e.g. at least Rowe, Bone and obviously Roo) are aware of the Clarkson deal – and have been for some time. It's pretty clear to those who listen carefully to 5AA that Rowie and Bone are keeping very tight lipped about the Clarkson appointment – because, make no mistake, this is a massive appointment, a real game changer in the wider tapestry of the AFL.

Inside knowledge of the Clarkson deal has become a lot clearer in recent days, where since Jars' almost fatal blunder, we have seen the local footy media in major (if covert) damage control. Ever since this untimely leak, the local media (esp. 5AA) has gone out of its way to deliberately avoid any possible mention that Clarkson is our man. The silence is deafening, it’s well beyond the legitimate incredulity or reasoned disbelief of many folks here on BF. The way Rowe and Bone have been skirting around the Clarko question suggests a) they have been ordered to make amends for the Jars debacle, by way of b) a vigilant refusal to even suggest the possibility that Clarko is our man.

And it’s not just what they don’t say. In their public announcements about who the new coach might be, they’ve been bending over backwards to further amend the damage caused by Jar’s leak with a strategic decoy. Rowe, Bone and others have been going all out to distract us from the white elephant in the living room - i.e. they have been proclaiming any other coach in Australia that they could possibly imagine, except for the one in the bag: Clarkson. Some of the red herrings for coaching suggestions that they (and others) have been coming up with are borderline ludicrous - but it’s worked: the 19th man and BF have been thrown of the scent, we've bought into this strategic PR decoy hook, line and sinker... No one suspects a thing, and that's exactly how the AFC wants it.

5) Another uncanny fact: every single one of the other legitimate candidates for the AFC head coaching position has already been eliminated. Remember, Fagon/Roo publicly stated that they want an experienced head coach, preferably one with premiership credentials. Isn’t it bizarre, and seemingly contrived, how all other serious and experienced candidates available (Worsefold, Thompson, Ratten, Eade, Harvey, Williams, Voss, McKenna, etc...) have dropped out of the race like flies?

Now, what if this alarming lack of candidates is not because no one wants the job, but because we don’t want them! I maintain that every single one of the experienced and credentialed coaches in contention has been told (some in strict confidentiality) that we already have our man and so there's no need to apply. I mean seriously: not one of the names listed above has even got as far as the first round of interviews. It smells fishy...

6) It makes a helluva lot more sense when we realize that the interviews that are being carried out by the AFC coaching panel are clearly being undertaken in order to decide who will work under Clarkson - that's why we're going through all these rookies: ROK, Bolton, Dew, Sumich, Walsh, Bassett (gone), etc... We’re clearly looking for either a) a couple of assistant coaches to support Clarkson as head coach, or an up and coming head coach to learn the craft under Clarkson as the Director of coaching...

Keep the faith. This has all been planned in advance from a long way out. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if even Sando knew about Clarko coming to the AFC to fill in Dean Bailey’s role, well before he was sacked... And let’s be honest. Can anyone see Danger staying at the Crows beyond 2015 if we are not a legitimate top 4 contender? Getting Danger to sign long-term is one of the core drivers of this cunning stunt from the beginning. And, of course, Danger did have coffee with Clarko in Melbourne two days after Sando was sacked...

But make no mistake, the AFC is at the cross roads, we are right now facing a moment of truth. And not only is the appointment of Clarkson the only thing now that can justify the sacking of Sando, only Clarkson has the coaching ability to quickly turn this club into a top 4 contender and keep Danger at the club beyond 2015.

It's Clarkson or we’re completely and utterly screwed...
ridiculous. Clarkson or we are screwed? Its not and never ever was Clarkson. The only mention of Clarkson came from jarman. The club denied it, Clarkson denied it and other media have simply fed off it to fill time. I believe that there was never any truth in it. I actually think Walsh would be an inspired choice and hope its him.
 

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cheers, the feedback from the PG if he gets appointed will be interesting. think that is the most important point "confidence from the PG"
On an interesting side note

Our young playing group loved Craigy and Port's young playing group love Hinkley

When pewee appointed Sando people thought our young group would relate to a young coach however Sando was sacked and the lack of player support was deafening

With this in mind I can see our young group responding to a more mature head
 
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I've heard Walsh speak a few times, reading in between the lines his mantra seems to be hard work and skill level which I do like
he is ultra impressive. For tredders to say he is the best coach he has ever had I think he would be an awesome choice. I also like the idea that we are going for a father figure rather than brother figure as I believe these types of coaches can generate lasting levels of respect from the player group.
 
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On an interesting side note

Our young playing group loved Craigy and Port's young playing group love Hinkley

When pewee appointed Sando people thought our young group would relate to a young coach however Sando was sacked and the lack of player support was deafening

With this in mind I can see our young group responding to a more mature head
further more if you look around the league it is littered with recent examples of young coaches that are spat out. I believe that the crows panel have correctly put more emphasis on experience this time. I think it would be good for the longevity of coaches if they look at doing longer and more varied assistant coach roles before getting the top gig.
 

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On an interesting side note

Our young playing group loved Craigy and Port's young playing group love Hinkley

When pewee appointed Sando people thought our young group would relate to a young coach however Sando was sacked and the lack of player support was deafening

With this in mind I can see our young group responding to a more mature head
Spot on....

The best coach i had the first thing he did, He sat all the plays down and said " im not ya f***** mate im your coach"

point is we won a flag that year because he demanded respect and it was given. Sando didn't come close to that type of coaching nature that the PG need to be flag contenders
 
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People are happy to keep Clarke? I'm not sure I believe I'm actually reading this.
Sauce left Carlton not in best 22 and now is top 3 ruck in comp

Angus is a spud and was never AFL level, can't blame Doc

JJ spends more time training with forwards so Doc has limited time with him

Smack, he is just all over the shop
 

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Like Craigy Walsh also has a sports science back ground so I expect us to be fit

Walsh was also Choco's right hand man and left Port for WCE when Choco got sacked, wonder if the club would allow Choco to be Walsh's right hand man
Walsh and Williams aren't what you'd call the best of mates from what I hear.
 

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Just wait for it

If we appoint Walsh and if it follows a similar success to Hinkley watch the coaching landscape change, the experienced assistant will become vogue and the preferred profile for a senior coach
It all comes down to what I've been saying all along - can the guy coach? Clubs have been over complicating this for so bloody long with irrelevant expectations - can they handle the media? Did they interview well? Will a young group respond to them? Are they experienced enough? Have they been around too long etc etc.

It's all bollocks! We should see a change in the landscape regardless of how well we go, there's a reason why the likes of Hinkley, Walsh, Richardson, Fagan, Tudor, Blakey etc. are revered in the greater footy community.
 

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Our next head coach is intuitively obvious if one does just a little bit of detective work. We've got Clarkson! Let me try and connect the dots here, and please feel free to expose the flaws in my reasoning. What we do know is that:

1) Fagan, the new CEO, has publicly said that we want the best available, i.e. the target is an experienced premiership coach. Fagan had a history of delivering on these bold promises in the NRL with the Brumby’s – he got the best coach in the world (a guy from South Africa). Make no mistake here, Fagan is ruthless and he means business. Honestly, do you really think his first move as the new CEO of the AFC would be to preside over the sacking of Sando (widely loved by the supporters) only to bring in another untried rookie coach? It’s a ridiculous way to begin one's tenure at the AFC, as well as totally out of character.

2) There's a lot of secrecy around this appointment. If nothing else, what we do know is that the AFC selection panel and board clearly have something major to hide.

3) The need for secrecy around the appointment of Clarkson has gone into major overdrive ever since Jars spilled the beans a few days before the GF. From this point forward, there have been absolutely no leaks from inside the AFC and plenty of red herrings (e.g. Bassett/Bolton). The AFC is like Fort Knox atm, something big is clearly about to happen. Jar’s untimely disclosure was a major, almost unforgivable cock-up, and is one major reason why the announcement simply had to be delayed until next week. (The other reason being that the Hawks, against most people's expectations, won the GF and so we need to wait for the dust to settle after the celebrations, travel to Tassie, and the Hawks B&F, before making the announcement).

4) Now this is slightly conjectural, but if we read between the lines (see below), we can also see that some in the local footy media (e.g. at least Rowe, Bone and obviously Roo) are aware of the Clarkson deal – and have been for some time. It's pretty clear to those who listen carefully to 5AA that Rowie and Bone are keeping very tight lipped about the Clarkson appointment – because, make no mistake, this is a massive appointment, a real game changer in the wider tapestry of the AFL.

Inside knowledge of the Clarkson deal has become a lot clearer in recent days, where since Jars' almost fatal blunder, we have seen the local footy media in major (if covert) damage control. Ever since this untimely leak, the local media (esp. 5AA) has gone out of its way to deliberately avoid any possible mention that Clarkson is our man. The silence is deafening, it’s well beyond the legitimate incredulity or reasoned disbelief of many folks here on BF. The way Rowe and Bone have been skirting around the Clarko question suggests a) they have been ordered to make amends for the Jars debacle, by way of b) a vigilant refusal to even suggest the possibility that Clarko is our man.

And it’s not just what they don’t say. In their public announcements about who the new coach might be, they’ve been bending over backwards to further amend the damage caused by Jar’s leak with a strategic decoy. Rowe, Bone and others have been going all out to distract us from the white elephant in the living room - i.e. they have been proclaiming any other coach in Australia that they could possibly imagine, except for the one in the bag: Clarkson. Some of the red herrings for coaching suggestions that they (and others) have been coming up with are borderline ludicrous - but it’s worked: the 19th man and BF have been thrown of the scent, we've bought into this strategic PR decoy hook, line and sinker... No one suspects a thing, and that's exactly how the AFC wants it.

5) Another uncanny fact: every single one of the other legitimate candidates for the AFC head coaching position has already been eliminated. Remember, Fagon/Roo publicly stated that they want an experienced head coach, preferably one with premiership credentials. Isn’t it bizarre, and seemingly contrived, how all other serious and experienced candidates available (Worsefold, Thompson, Ratten, Eade, Harvey, Williams, Voss, McKenna, etc...) have dropped out of the race like flies?

Now, what if this alarming lack of candidates is not because no one wants the job, but because we don’t want them! I maintain that every single one of the experienced and credentialed coaches in contention has been told (some in strict confidentiality) that we already have our man and so there's no need to apply. I mean seriously: not one of the names listed above has even got as far as the first round of interviews. It smells fishy...

6) It makes a helluva lot more sense when we realize that the interviews that are being carried out by the AFC coaching panel are clearly being undertaken in order to decide who will work under Clarkson - that's why we're going through all these rookies: ROK, Bolton, Dew, Sumich, Walsh, Bassett (gone), etc... We’re clearly looking for either a) a couple of assistant coaches to support Clarkson as head coach, or an up and coming head coach to learn the craft under Clarkson as the Director of coaching...

Keep the faith. This has all been planned in advance from a long way out. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if even Sando knew about Clarko coming to the AFC to fill in Dean Bailey’s role, well before he was sacked... And let’s be honest. Can anyone see Danger staying at the Crows beyond 2015 if we are not a legitimate top 4 contender? Getting Danger to sign long-term is one of the core drivers of this cunning stunt from the beginning. And, of course, Danger did have coffee with Clarko in Melbourne two days after Sando was sacked...

But make no mistake, the AFC is at the cross roads, we are right now facing a moment of truth. And not only is the appointment of Clarkson the only thing now that can justify the sacking of Sando, only Clarkson has the coaching ability to quickly turn this club into a top 4 contender and keep Danger at the club beyond 2015.

It's Clarkson or we’re completely and utterly screwed...
Well I'm still a believer and until Sportsbet remove his name and we finally announce it, I still believe.

If it does happen, watch the media implode. This would surely show what a mob of imbeciles they are - whether it be print, radio or TV.

It is interesting to hear that Rowey keeps saying AFC has got its man - if that was the case why would you hear all these names - to put people off scent. This could be one of the biggest covert operations ever.
 
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