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[Down at K Park]

You would be the only one that thinks so.

Did you not notice the rolled eyes emoji? Or is sarcasm lost on you?

 

[Spazz Cat]

Did you not notice the rolled eyes emoji? Or is sarcasm lost on you?

In fairness some of us don't get the emojis coming up on our phone.
They come up as [emoji].
I just assume everyone is using the eggplant one.

 

[Max Milburn]

There's an eggplant emoji??????

 

[Spazz Cat]

There's an eggplant emoji??????

Yeah! I actually send it to my missus sometimes but usually get the Thumbs Down emoji back.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Can't believe how O'Connor still slips under the radar after his end to the year. I know I watch him closely but at the moment he's miles ahead of guys like Cunico and Jones who seem to be continually talked up. There's a reason he was being picked and performing well at the end of the year while those guys couldn't even make the emergencies. He's got more obvious areas of improvement too despite being the better player already (eg he's technically a very good kick and it could be a weapon but needs to learn to back himself with it).

 

[Ray Donovan]

Can't believe how O'Connor still slips under the radar after his end to the year. I know I watch him closely but at the moment he's miles ahead of guys like Cunico and Jones who seem to be continually talked up. There's a reason he was being picked and performing well at the end of the year while those guys couldn't even make the emergencies. He's got more obvious areas of improvement too despite being the better player already (eg he's technically a very good kick and it could be a weapon but needs to learn to back himself with it).

Interesting one MOC been thrown in a couple of times the coaching staff like him that's for sure good final last season. Still 6 games with the addition of Clark not many spots left in the backline and I didnt have cunico or jones anywhere near the early season best 22.

Looks to have the ability to transition into the midfield I just feel he still has a lot of work to do. Similar to jones and cunico a project would need to find himself a position.

Tuohy, Stewart, Bews, Henry, Blicavs, Taylor, Kolo, Duncan, Henderson, Guthrie, Jordan Clark.

Where would you play him? Midfield ?

 

[Drunkcat]

The best thing about Clark he is a hard nut we have got a few hard nuts this year..and i like it

 

[Drunkcat]

And the start of the year Dahlhaus Rohan Atkins will be in my best 22..I like what these guy's will bring to our team this year our tackling will go up

 

[Landgraft]

The best thing about Clark he is a hard nut we have got a few hard nuts this year..and i like it

Then why didn't he play any more contested roles?

 

[Ray Donovan]

And the start of the year Dahlhaus Rohan Atkins will be in my best 22..I like what these guy's will bring to our team this year our tackling will go up

If everyone is available and the geelong match panel is serious that spots are up for grabs even Gary Rohan may struggle to be in the best 22 early on. I'm not sure I have him in now

 

[goyoucatters]

If everyone is available and the geelong match panel is serious that spots are up for grabs even Gary Rohan may struggle to be in the best 22 early on. I'm not sure I have him in now

I've got nothing against Rohan. I'd like him to do well on returning home.

But if he is an automatic selection in the 22 through the early part of the season, that is probably not a great sign.

I would like to think he will end up having to earn repeat games in the ones at Geelong with some consistent performances.

 

[Ray Donovan]

I've got nothing against Rohan. I'd like him to do well on returning home.

But if he is an automatic selection in the 22 through the early part of the season, that is probably not a great sign.

I would like to think he will end up having to earn repeat games in the ones at Geelong with some consistent performances.

Completely agree with this my gut feel is the cockatoo knee is nowhere near being available perhaps early in the season. So Rohan takes over the menzel role reasonably good overhead can play close to goals and off half back.

I personally would be hesitant to throw him right in although you don't bring a specific player like that to the club and not play them early.

I do agree with you though he is not in the dalhaus mould where he is most likely s walk up start and ready to go in a vacant position will need to earn his stripes

 

[Ray Donovan]

The only sparkle about Narkle really is his bleached hair.
Yet to be convinced about him and JJ, but this year could see them emerge a bit

Prepare to be impressed kids a Jet as long as he stays injury free

 

[Ray Donovan]

Think Henry and Parfitt are the 2 that the rest of the competition will take notice from.

Henry is our Lever and just as good IMO in 2019. An absolute gun.

Parfitt playing as that 3rd or 4th mid will shine and be a real play maker averaging 25 touches a game (my prediction for 2019). I rate him for his time and creativity. He has the best side-step in the game and cannot be tackled. I see him as a future gun but not the no.1 mid to take over from Joel or Danger. Their replacement is still not on our list and we need top 10 picks to get this sort of no.1 mid of the team... which is why I hope we bargain hard for a top 10 pick for Kelly.

Esava has the most potential but is still raw/young and coming back from a broken leg so I'm expecting some inconsistency. But once up and running in a year or so, providing no injuries and that he is not hampered by his broken leg, he will be a top 5 key forward in the AFL. a FF version of Naitanui with an amazing highlight real. A bash and crash high marking player that also chases and tackles hard. A forward line can be built around him in the future.

Narkle for me doesn't seem to have a ceiling high enough to be a superstar of the team. In his prime I see him rather a soldier for the club (in the 12 - 20th best player). Something like our old Wojac or what Edwards is for richmond. the next rung. an important cog but not the main man, which is fine because you need these players for team balance. I see him a stoppage specialist that runs between the arcs to each contest driving it forward and chasing the other way.

Fogarty has had an interrupted start to the preseason so I'm expecting a slow start to the year and maybe even 2nd year blues as he recovers from his groin. In the future I think he will be a good cog in the mid. If he reaches his full potential he could be a Keiren Jack type player. A gun small hard nut mid that racks up the tackles and puts pressure on in the middle of the ground. Would be ideally suited if there were 2 or 3 other mid guns in the team (Parfitt will already be one) so we need to draft a couple future gun mids that can replace Joel & Danger as no.1 and 2. I haven't seen Constable yet so I haven't included him yet.

In summary, I think the above are our best young players that I am very confident will become good AFL players. I think it shows we need to draft a few top 10 pick mids in the next couple of drafts to come through with the above. Hopefully we get some good picks.

Hopefully jordan Clark continues to develop and turns into the player at half back we require. I really saw a lot of Sam Doherty type of player watching him at the carnival.



Clark is a touch smaller 182cm 78kg
Docherty 183cm 83kg

When drafted obviously


( Docherty )


( jordan Clark )

Nathan Krueger is a bit of a project but the one thing that stuck out to me is just his athletic ability. His skills need a bit of work wasn't the greatest kicking test I have ever seen. His goal kicking test straight on set shot from 40-45m looked good.


( goal kicking )


( field kick )


( yo yo)

https://youtu.be/rl-QczmCta0
( highlights)


About 196cm 86kg



Genuine key position size but has the ability to move around like a wingman half forward. He is raw will take time don't expect to see him early but is another aboriginal talent and had some excellent mentors growing up.

He reminds me a bit of hugh Greenwood from adelaide. Will not play midfield like him just the big athletic frame and that winding left boot I think the guys who get down to watch a bit of VFL will really like what they see from this guy just his versatility ground coverage work rate.

One to watch for the future I liked the trade at the time hopefully wells pulls this one out

 

[goyoucatters]

Completely agree with this my gut feel is the cockatoo knee is nowhere near being available perhaps early in the season. So Rohan takes over the menzel role reasonably good overhead can play close to goals and off half back.

Agree here as well. For mine, unless Cocky plays both JLT games and smashes out some good minutes at high intensity in both, I think they would be mad to play him in the seniors in Round 1.

But, going on past history, I'm fully prepared to see the MC do just that (yet again).

As Einstein reliably informed us, it's the very definition of insanity.

 

[goyoucatters]

Prepare to be impressed kids a Jet as long as he stays injury free

Showed huge promise for mine, coming off his limited preparation for last season.

I really don't see what the knock is on him at this point. Already showing something and looks to have tremendous upside to me.

 

[goyoucatters]

Hopefully jordan Clark continues to develop and turns into the player at half back we require. I really saw a lot of Sam Doherty type of player watching him at the carnival.

Clark is a touch smaller 182cm 78kg
Docherty 183cm 83kg

When drafted obviously


Nathan Krueger is a bit of a project but the one thing that stuck out to me is just his athletic ability. His skills need a bit of work wasn't the greatest kicking test I have ever seen. His goal kicking test straight on set shot from 40-45m looked good.

Genuine key position size but has the ability to move around like a wingman half forward. He is raw will take time don't expect to see him early but is another aboriginal talent and had some excellent mentors growing up.

He reminds me a bit of hugh Greenwood from adelaide. Will not play midfield like him just the big athletic frame and that winding left boot I think the guys who get down to watch a bit of VFL will really like what they see from this guy just his versatility ground coverage work rate.

One to watch for the future I liked the trade at the time hopefully wells pulls this one out

Long way to go, of course. But I see these two already as really good chances of being a success at AFL level.

I believe Clark will well and truly justify his top 20 billing over the journey.

And I'm confident that Krueger could be another mid-range steal for us.

Really looking forward to seeing both of them in the hoops this year. And even if there's not that much senior action for them in 2019, I think they're both fantastic long-term prospects for the GFC.

IWWT.

 

[Ray Donovan]

Agree here as well. For mine, unless Cocky plays both JLT games and smashes out some good minutes at high intensity in both, I think they would be mad to play him in the seniors in Round 1.

But, going on past history, I'm fully prepared to see the MC do just that (yet again).

As Einstein reliably informed us, it's the very definition of insanity.

Brilliant

&

"theory of relativity"

 

[CatRiot]

I'm still sceptical about where Clarks ceiling is. 15 is not a high pick by any stretch, but to take a half-back feels underwhelming. I'm relatively confident he'll be able to play AFL, but don't think it's going to be a pick we look back on and marvel at for the impact he's had on our team.

The kids from 2016 and 2017 I'm pretty confident on, there are going to be some really glowing retrospectives on those off-seasons one day. This year's crop doesn't really have anyone that immediately demands attention, but I'm most interested in the journeys of #Landshark Kreuger and Jumping Jake Tarca.

What do you think of him now?

 

[Landgraft]

What do you think of him now?

Very promising start, but I still don't think his ceiling lends itself to daydreaming.

Bring on the #Landshark

 

[Larry Donohue]

O'Connor Blicavs Clark
Stewart Kolo Henry
Kennerley Constable Cunico
Cockatoo Ratagolea Fogarty
Menegola Kreuger Miers
Fort Parfitt Narkle
Tarca Jarvis Jones Buzza Brownless
Extras Simpson Zuthrie Buzza Schlensog Okunbor Parsons Abbott

A team without
Stanley, Smith. Joel and Scott Selwood, Dangerfield, Ablett, Duncan, Guthrie, Kelly, Dahlhaus, Rohan, Taylor, Henderson, Tuohy, ,Bews

It doesn't look so dreadful does it
With the development of Abbott, Fort, Henry, Parfitt, Narkle, Kreuger. Miers, Constable, O'Connor, Clark, Cunico, Kennerley, Ratagolea, Tarca, Jarvis, Jones, Brownless, zuthrie, Simpson, Jarvis, Parsons, Schlensog, Okunbor over the next 3 or 4 years
Potentially realizing the brilliance of Cockatoo Parfitt Kreuger Henry and Narkle
The continued contribution of quality of Blicavs, Stewart, Menegola

The additions of more free agents, trades and draft picks over 3 or 4 years

I have quite a deal of optimism
The champs might carry the show now, but we might have as many champs in the next 3 or 4 like Parfitt, Clark, Kreuger, Ratagolea, Cockatoo, Constable, Stewart, Blicavs, Narkle,

The future is ours to create

Who knows some of
Lewis Taylor, Gardiner, Wooller, Curnow, Walsh Mathieson might come home

POSITIVE

 

[terry_bright]

Agree here as well. For mine, unless Cocky plays both JLT games and smashes out some good minutes at high intensity in both, I think they would be mad to play him in the seniors in Round 1.

But, going on past history, I'm fully prepared to see the MC do just that (yet again).

As Einstein reliably informed us, it's the very definition of insanity.

Einstein reliably informed the world on many things, but not what you're thinking of. The "definition of insanity" quote never came from him. It came from a Narcotics Anonymous brochure in the 1980's.

On Cocky I totally agree. Needs a solid block (around a month) of serious match practice/simulation before he should be considered.

 

[CatRiot]

O'Connor Blicavs Clark
Stewart Kolo Henry
Kennerley Constable Cunico
Cockatoo Ratagolea Fogarty
Menegola Kreuger Miers
Fort Parfitt Narkle
Tarca Jarvis Jones Buzza Brownless
Extras Simpson Zuthrie Buzza Schlensog Okunbor Parsons Abbott

A team without
Stanley, Smith. Joel and Scott Selwood, Dangerfield, Ablett, Duncan, Guthrie, Kelly, Dahlhaus, Rohan, Taylor, Henderson, Tuohy, ,Bews

It doesn't look so dreadful does it
With the development of Abbott, Fort, Henry, Parfitt, Narkle, Kreuger. Miers, Constable, O'Connor, Clark, Cunico, Kennerley, Ratagolea, Tarca, Jarvis, Jones, Brownless, zuthrie, Simpson, Jarvis, Parsons, Schlensog, Okunbor over the next 3 or 4 years
Potentially realizing the brilliance of Cockatoo Parfitt Kreuger Henry and Narkle
The continued contribution of quality of Blicavs, Stewart, Menegola

The additions of more free agents, trades and draft picks over 3 or 4 years

I have quite a deal of optimism
The champs might carry the show now, but we might have as many champs in the next 3 or 4 like Parfitt, Clark, Kreuger, Ratagolea, Cockatoo, Constable, Stewart, Blicavs, Narkle,

The future is ours to create

Who knows some of
Lewis Taylor, Gardiner, Wooller, Curnow, Walsh Mathieson might come home

POSITIVE

We will need a lot more class players if looking at that list. I reckon we will need +5 FAs or trades for some guns to fill holes.

Blicavs and Abbott ain't that young either.

I'm still on the fence whether Kreuger, SavRat, Cocky, Narkle, Constable will be anything more than Solid B-graders.

There is probably a dozen teams in the comp that have a much better U23 list.

Having said that, we have done okay with the draft picks we've had. If we bottomed for a season, and traded for extra quality picks, that's probably all we need.

Just trying to be realistic imo.

Clark and Parfitt are the only A-graders U23 atm imo. That's not to say a few more U23s may turn into A-graders - Constable, Miers, Fogarty, Henry - the most likely chances at this stage.

 

[longtimecat]

I don’t have enough faith in our match committee to give the kids enough exposure for them to “break out”. I expect Mc will again select on reputation rather than potential and form.

 

[terry_bright]

I don’t have enough faith in our match committee to give the kids enough exposure for them to “break out”. I expect Mc will again select on reputation rather than potential and form.

Based on what?

Last year we debuted the 2nd most number of players (7) only behind WCE on 8.
In the last 2 years we have also given debuts to the 2nd most number of players (15), only behind North on 16.

To say the MC doesn't give the kids exposure to prove themselves is rubbish.
The quality of those debutants is another argument.